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Athlon 64 Series Flaw
« on: October 2, 2004 08:16 PM GMT »
When checking the top surface of the die with a straight razor (and a light source in the background) the die has a distinct "crown" and is curved up, or concaved toward the middle. This obviously provides a less than desirable contact area with the cooler. Maybe all A64's are possibly this way, and those with Integrated Heat Spreaders just don't know it.

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« Reply #1 on: October 2, 2004 09:46 PM GMT »
i've been hesitant about 64 bit processors because i know as soon as someone finds a flaw all the people who brag about their 64 chips will have to go drop another couple hundred to get a new one.
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« Reply #2 on: October 2, 2004 11:16 PM GMT »
Why is everybody getting 64-bit systems? doesnt XP only take full advantage of 32 bit systems? Or are they getting 64 bit systems in advance of Microsoft's new OS?
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« Reply #3 on: October 2, 2004 11:36 PM GMT »
xp64 is beta, but works somewhat, give it another few months with some non-beta drivers and it will be kick ass.
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« Reply #4 on: October 3, 2004 11:10 AM GMT »
Linux can take full advantage of the 64 bit system. XP still cannot.

I wouldn't really call that a flaw since my 3200 runs cooler than any p4 or barton i've seen (with normal cooling).
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« Reply #5 on: October 3, 2004 12:30 PM GMT »
yeah, just use a good thermal compound and it won't be any big deal

If you're really worried about it, mix some thermal adhesive like arctic alumina and put a thin copper shim over the core in such a way as to ensure perfect flatness and levelness.
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« Reply #6 on: October 3, 2004 04:31 PM GMT »
me Athlon 2800+ > A64
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« Reply #7 on: October 3, 2004 05:15 PM GMT »
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me Athlon 2800+ > A64


Hardly.  A64 > my 2600 XP-M.  You're forgetting that an A64 can overclock, too.  And 64-bit apps FLY on it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 5, 2004 12:50 AM GMT »
What are the temps on your 3200 UG?
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« Reply #9 on: October 5, 2004 02:30 AM GMT »
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me Athlon 2800+ > A64

Hardly.  A64 > my 2600 XP-M.  You're forgetting that an A64 can overclock, too.  And 64-bit apps FLY on it.


only gay people overclock dude, it kills your processor's life spand, some of us are too poor to buy new processors and cooling devices for overclocking. it just like saying "OH CRAP IM OUT OF LIQUID NITROGEN FOR MY PROCESSOR, LEMMIE RUN TO THE STORE AND GET SOME MORE"
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« Reply #10 on: October 5, 2004 03:16 AM GMT »
I lowered the temps in my room, and accidentally turned it to 60*.  I came back to the room and realized it was FREEZING cold.  Checked the temps on the computer:

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« Reply #11 on: October 5, 2004 03:17 AM GMT »
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me Athlon 2800+ > A64

Hardly.  A64 > my 2600 XP-M.  You're forgetting that an A64 can overclock, too.  And 64-bit apps FLY on it.

only g** people overclock dude, it kills your processor's life spand, some of us are too poor to buy new processors and cooling devices for overclocking. it just like saying "OH CRAP IM OUT OF LIQUID NITROGEN FOR MY PROCESSOR, LEMMIE RUN TO THE STORE AND GET SOME MORE"


They made computers for people like you :

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« Reply #12 on: October 5, 2004 03:44 AM GMT »
31*

This is stock cooling btw... I keep the room at a constant 74* F. I'm working on building a custom case though for maximum airflow... My last air cooling project for a while.
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« Reply #13 on: October 5, 2004 12:18 PM GMT »
Stock cooling also.  One 80mm intake fan directly above processor, one 120mm exaust, one 80mm exaust on top.

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« Reply #14 on: October 5, 2004 02:31 PM GMT »
I have no exhaust fans except for my power supply.

This isn't a play computer yet. This is a project computer. I'm going to start getting the malarkey together to see what these chips can really take so I can post the info and benchmarks on Uberclockers.com
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