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Title: Jonah
Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:59 am CDT: Hey, what's you're ISP?
I need to know so I can call them and inform
them of the case I am submitting as outlined in section 18 USC 1030(a) paragraphs 6 of the
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (http://http):
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(6) Knowingly and with intent to defraud traffics (as defined in section 1029) in any password or similar information through which a computer may be accessed without authorization.

and Section 1.07(14) of the Computer Hacking / Cybercrime Code:
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Internet fraud is also sometimes referred to as computer forgery. Forgery of computer data includes but is not limited to:

1. "data" as defined in 1.07(14) of this Code,
2. electronic mail,
3. computer generated text and other computer word processing documents,
4. computer image and graphic data, and
5. any other computer generated document, record, or representation.

They need to know about you're little 'hobby'

I'm not one to unsavory woman about online crimes but when you fuk with me... you fuk with the Air Force buddy ...
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Post by: Corona on August 9, 2004 09:04 am CDT: This would have been funny if I could say for certain that I knew you were making a bad joke.

I can't.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 09:13 am CDT: Lol?

Oh and, I didn't touch your char buddy

Oh and, I didn't 'hack' into the server at all. I used Deus HUD.
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 09:37 am CDT: LMAO Just when you think Ziros is stupid for dusting with 5000 dusts and losing them all....he does this and makes himself offically the g@y'st person to ever join this forum! Jonah you better watch your back...because the US airforce is going to bomb jo huse!!
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 09:39 am CDT: Who cares if you hacked?
You 'altered date'
That's all that matters.

I already submitted a claim to Paypal and an attorney called me yesterday for details on opening a claim. I told him Id get you IP, you ISP you WHOIS and your email and anything else I could and contact him...
You could tell me these... or, just wait for me to get them... your choice.
If you cooperate, it won't look bad.
But since you think you're just so cool you can exploit a computer system, you will be punished.

Oh yeah, the WHOIS gave me the address you're subnet is assigned to. And a little search on Google shows me your phone number.
Let's see what you parents say when they find out you've embezzled $75 dollars out of a member of the United States Air Force.
I am eager to talk to them.

-Denton
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 09:42 am CDT: Ziros let us all see some proof that you even have a job nevermind a member in the armed forces. I think you're s stupid little prick with no life who thinks he is a WHOIS expect but really you have NO IDEA what it is, what it does, or even how to use it. Please go die in a horrible car accident...!!
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 09:45 am CDT: I embezzled $75? First of all, I never even touched your char.. That was Jamie.

Are you going to call my parents and say "Hey, your sons online-friend got on my interet game char and messed some stuff up "
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 09:55 am CDT: Jonah... it doesn't matter who or what you did.
You directly assisted in the hacking and sabotage of my chartacter and because G3 was bound by leagal tender, you broke the law.
You comitted an act directly against the computer system and/or data of another person and I am going to contact you ISP.
There is already an thread on that part of it.
This thread is to inform you of what I am doing because acording to my ISP, you have to know.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 09:57 am CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
You directly assisted in the hacking and sabotage of my chartacter.

How did I directly assist him?

I did not make the script.

I did not tell him to do it.

I did not know he was going to do it.

He makes and is responsible for his decisions, not me.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:00 am CDT: Also, it looks more to me like you're craving attention by posting this. You had no need to post this in a public forum, you have my AIM, my email, and you could have PMed me.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 10:00 am CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
You comitted an act directly against the computer system and/or data of another person and I am going to contact you ISP.

Meaning other people.
So you deny hacking other characters...
I am sure you ISP won't mind if it was anyone but me.... yeah, right.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:01 am CDT: Yes, I know that I did it to other people. However, you're accusing me of embezzling 75 dollars, which is false.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 10:01 am CDT: I'm informing people of what it is I am pursuing.
If anyone wanted to assist, they could.
You didn't only 'hack' me so it doesn't only involve us.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:02 am CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
You didn't only 'hack' me so it doesn't only involve us.

I didn't "hack" you at all. Let me say again that I haven't had anything to do with the char "G3" since I sold it to you.
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 10:04 am CDT: Ziros go away with your stupid bullsh1t, go play Quake ya low life piece of trash!
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Post by: LastWish on August 9, 2004 10:17 am CDT: Jonah helped us by giving Particle the information needed to patch the exploit that was being used to steal passwords.. if you want to get someone in trouble with the law, it should be Jamie.. not Jonah.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:19 am CDT: Thank you, Last.
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 10:20 am CDT: Or better yet, sue your mum and her pimp for having sex and making you Ziros!
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Post by: GE on August 9, 2004 10:39 am CDT: Quote from: "LastWish"
Jonah helped us by giving Particle the information needed to patch the exploit that was being used to steal passwords.. if you want to get someone in trouble with the law, it should be Jamie.. not Jonah.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 12:14 pm CDT: So...
he hacked a bunch of characters, forked them up and gave the resources away... and because he helped fix it, he's cool now?

So say I kill you... but i pay for all funeral exspences and even help people who commited murder get back into society... i'm cool then...
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 12:34 pm CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
So...
he hacked a bunch of characters, f*** them up and gave the resources away... and because he helped fix it, he's cool now?

So say I kill you... but i pay for all funeral exspences and even help people who commited murder get back into society... i'm cool then...

NO...you...will NEVER be cool!
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 12:37 pm CDT: The difference is, I didn't kill someone.

Let's say you spilled milk on someones floor, but you didn't clean it up. They might get mad, yes? Let's say you spill milk but clean it up right away, they aren't happy with you, but you are somewhat forgiven, and further action need not be taken.
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 12:40 pm CDT: Someone spilt milk on the floor....THE BASTARDS WHO WAS IT!! GRRR LETS GETTEM!!
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 01:04 pm CDT: this is a bit more valuble than spilled milk fuker... this is leagal tender!
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 01:05 pm CDT: And it's a bit less than murder.. see the point I was trying to make?

And I don't understand why you are going after me instead of JamieMadrox. You say guilty by assossiation, but how can that be when I had:

No knowledge of it

I did not provide tools for it

I did not request that it be done.
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 01:08 pm CDT: Jonah. Please tell me your laughing your balls off that this fool!
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Post by: PEACH! on August 9, 2004 01:09 pm CDT: Jonah your a stupid little asshole all you did was steal passwords to get attention and then be the hero to save the stealing by telling Particle how it goes and that wasnt even ur fukin script.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 01:10 pm CDT: I never said it was my script.. I said it wasn't.
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 01:10 pm CDT: I was wondering why he did that too lol.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 01:11 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jonah"
No knowledge of it

I did not provide tools for it

I did not request that it be done.
No knoledge of it...
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Pshh.. we did a lot more than just that, Corona.

Then you began listing character after character you BOTH hacked. Just stop trying to defend yourself.
I would sudgest spending your time researching your leagal rights, rather than sitting here anxiously awaiting my next post because you're so scared.

And Wolf, I am ignoring you because I don't have to prove my superiority over you... it's a given.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 01:13 pm CDT: You are trying to sue me because of the damage to YOUR char, which you somehow believe is "embezzlement". I am saying that I had no knowledge that YOUR char was damaged. Did you see me list your char?
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Post by: PEACH! on August 9, 2004 01:15 pm CDT: first of all... why the fuk is he giving away the script like candy even tho its not even a script its a gayass hud because the noobs cant script... well Zirus or w/e the fuk ur name is like i give a malarkey.. wtf is ur noob ass problem .. no body is scared of u .. jackass .. so just stfu u dont even know how 2 get a fukin isp or ip.address!
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Post by: rootbeer on August 9, 2004 01:20 pm CDT: AHAH this is freaking ridiculous. Ziro..u...are..an..idiot. Next thing u know hes gonna sue u for emotional damage..
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 01:26 pm CDT: Ziros.. you're wasting your time.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 01:27 pm CDT: Quote from: "PEACH!"
...u dont even know how 2 get a fukin isp or ip.address!

I am a network technician for the US Air Force.
I manage and maintain 47 Dell PowerEdge 6600 servers
and 140 Cisco GSR/12000 Series routers. I designed the current Fiber topology for Langley AFB... and I have only been in for a year and a month.
I make 137,000+ a year and have 2 bills(that's a lot of spending money). If you have any more questions you can Email me at Denton.Diederich@langley.af.mil

Now fuk off...
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 01:43 pm CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
I make 137,000+ a year and have 2 bills(that's a lot of spending money).
Now fuk off...

LMAO and you're unsavory womaning about a $75 character...ooh Let me guess your next statment will be...its the point of it!

Get a life loser!
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Post by: LastWish on August 9, 2004 03:56 pm CDT: He is unsavory womaning because someone stole something from him.. I can see why he is mad, but what I can't understand is why he is going after Jonah and not Jamie. Jamie stole G3.. not Jonah. Jonah listed out the names that he stole, and G3 wasn't one of them.
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Post by: -Triton- on August 9, 2004 05:39 pm CDT: Ziros if you forking touch jonah I will crash your entire forking place where you work. I will fork up every Dell system you own and make your yearly payment $2,000. Your unsavory womaning because you lost your char? Get the fork over it, its a game, it will not happen because he is not hacking the goverment here. Just shut the fork up and stop asking for attention.

-Celtic you are auctually making me laugh for the first time in a while. Bravo.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 06:01 pm CDT: Quote from: "-Triton-"
Ziros if you f*** touch jonah I will crash your entire f*** place where you work. I will f*** up every Dell system you own and make your yearly payment $2,000...

Lmao... I HIGHLY doubt that...
I'd like to see you try... and fail.
You think you're invinsible, child?
You, the super kid, is going to hack Langley AFB?
You can't backup SH!T so I would sudjest shutting the fuk up.
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Post by: -Triton- on August 9, 2004 06:09 pm CDT: I HIGHLY doubt you will do anything and I HIGHLY doubt they will have nothing to do with it when you go screaming to them. Help someone stole my character's password on a game I play!

Yes I am invincible, yes I am superman.
Ok, make your move and I will make mine big boy
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 06:10 pm CDT: How hard could it be to hack you at work when all you do is play tribes. We know your ip and what ports you have open, you're defenetly not behind a firewall anyway. You're not very smart are you?
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 06:28 pm CDT: Go a head... do it.
Both of you, hack my work...
C'mon you pussies, stop talking about it and take some action.
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Post by: Halide on August 9, 2004 06:34 pm CDT: Ziros, I don't know how to hack or even play the game anymore, but you are nothing but a forking dumbass noob who lies about his money and his job. You sit at home all day on your couch jacking off to gay porno and old daycare videos.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 9, 2004 06:38 pm CDT: All of you are idiots mkay?

First of all Ziros, coming from somebody who actually knows a bit about the law, I can tell you that you have no case here whatsoever. You are not in contract with either Particle or Jonah and neither is liable for damage done to PARTICLE'S character. That's right, it is legally his and you have limited control of it.

Whatever lawyer you talked to is either an idiot or didn't understand exactly what happened here, because nothing will come out of this.

Triton, you are also a complete moron for threatening to hack him. If you honestly think you can break into and damage the servers of a United States Government installation without any consequences, I hope you do try it.
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Post by: Sinister on August 9, 2004 06:59 pm CDT: Quote from: "-Triton-"
Ziros if you f*** touch jonah I will crash your entire f*** place where you work. I will f*** up every Dell system you own and make your yearly payment $2,000. Your ***** because you lost your char? Get the f*** over it, its a game, it will not happen because he is not hacking the goverment here. Just shut the f*** up and stop asking for attention.

-Celtic you are auctually making me laugh for the first time in a while. Bravo.

Good move...crashing a government system....smart. I think with the U.S Government would disapprove of that one. Bomb. Bomb. Bomb. Bomb (writing the word bomb should get their attention)
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 07:10 pm CDT: Quote from: "Halide"
Ziros, I don't know how to hack or even play the game anymore, but you are nothing but a f*** dumbass noob who lies about his money and his job. You sit at home all day on your couch jacking off to g** porno and old daycare videos.

Why is it so hard for you fukers to believe I am in the Air Force?
Please, enlighten me... what DO i do then?

Seriously, grow up and stop being so ignorant.
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Post by: Razore on August 9, 2004 07:12 pm CDT: Im sorry:

YOURE THE forkING IGNORANT ONE. YOU CANNOT SUE JONAH. HE DIDNT TOUCH YOUR forkING CHAR, YOU CANT DO malarkey, THE LAWYER THING WAS A forkING LIE, PROVE IT, SHOW US THE forkING PROOF PLEASE, JUST SHUT THE fork UP, YOU LOST YOUR CHAR! BOOHOO. GET A forkING LIFE.

/end
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 07:31 pm CDT: Ziro...

Youre the dumbmalarkey who offered to pay $75... way to go you low life...

*OMG OMG OMG I NEEEEEEEED A CHAR OMG OMG OMG $75 !!!! *

Get the fork Off these forums... youre not welcome...
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 07:40 pm CDT: Quote from: "Razore"
Im sorry:

YOURE THE f*** IGNORANT ONE. YOU CANNOT SUE JONAH. HE DIDNT TOUCH YOUR f*** CHAR, YOU CANT DO ****, THE LAWYER THING WAS A f*** LIE, PROVE IT, SHOW US THE f*** PROOF PLEASE, JUST SHUT THE f*** UP, YOU LOST YOUR CHAR! BOOHOO. GET A f*** LIFE.

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Shut the fuk up razore...big words from a fat little kid only make you look stupid!
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Post by: Sinister on August 9, 2004 08:05 pm CDT: OWNED !!![/b]

see below for ownage !!!
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:07 pm CDT: lol, sorry Sin, i messed up on my quote
Quote from: "Razore"
...THE LAWYER THING WAS A f*** LIE, PROVE IT, SHOW US THE f*** PROOF PLEASE...

The lawer was on the phone... you want a fuking recording?

Here is the Email from Paypal:

(http://http://img54.exs.cx/img54/4203/Claim.th.png) (http://http://img54.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img54&image=Claim.png)
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:10 pm CDT: Recording Please...
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 08:11 pm CDT: So you're gonna take his money AND his char? Perhaps jonah should sue YOU!
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:13 pm CDT: Ziros we dont want your malarkey here...

Leave Please...
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:13 pm CDT: Quote from: "WolfTones"
So you're gonna take his money AND his char? Perhaps jonah should sue YOU!

Wtf?
I got MY money back.
They are going to investigate him, i could careless if he keeps it or not.
And... wtf, i took Jonah's char?

Quote from: "Jim"
Ziros we dont want your **** here...

Leave Please...

Lmao... that is SOOOO going to make me just break down and cry as i delete pcrpg.org from my favorites... *tear*

Stfu you punk, you can't tell me to leave and expect me to obay.
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Post by: WolfTones on August 9, 2004 08:14 pm CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
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So you're gonna take his money AND his char? Perhaps jonah should sue YOU!

Wtf?
I got MY money back.
They are going to investigate him, i could careless if he keeps it or not.
And... wtf, i took Jonah's char?

So you got your $75 and you still got the character? Umm please tell me i'm incorrect!!
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:15 pm CDT: lol then dude like send me $1000 and then complain
so we can like Dupe Money
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:16 pm CDT: Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
Quote from: "WolfTones"
So you're gonna take his money AND his char? Perhaps jonah should sue YOU!

Wtf?
I got MY money back.
They are going to investigate him, i could careless if he keeps it or not.
And... wtf, i took Jonah's char?

So you got your $75 and you still got the character? Umm please tell me i'm incorrect!!

No, i don't 'got the character'... i am waiting until i can catch Part online to restore it.
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:17 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jim"
lol then dude like send me $1000 and then complain
so we can like Dupe Money

^
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:18 pm CDT: But on a more serious note... why the hell would you pay $75 fir that
char
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:19 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jim"
But on a more serious note... why the hell would you pay $75 fir that
char

Same reason you bought that blow-up sheep...
It feels good to have something unique.
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Post by: Sinister on August 9, 2004 08:20 pm CDT: LMFAO
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:21 pm CDT: blow up sheep?

come on... im sure you learned better comeback then that at Langley
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:24 pm CDT: (http://http://130.89.160.183/jig/fora/flame.jpg)
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 08:26 pm CDT: Ziros, the char WILL be returned to you then? This had absolutely NOTHING to do with me or paypal, yet you decided to get your money back from them anway. If I recieve an email from them, I will have to fill them in on what you're doing.
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Post by: LastWish on August 9, 2004 08:29 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jim"
lol then dude like send me $1000 and then complain
so we can like Dupe Money

(http://http://s94967128.onlinehome.us/thisstupid.jpg)
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Post by: neil on August 9, 2004 08:33 pm CDT: Quote from: "WolfTones"
Ziros go away with your stupid bullsh1t, go play Quake ya low life piece of trash!

i wouldn't be talking mr. irish
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Post by: Corona on August 9, 2004 08:33 pm CDT: I can think of a few other interested parties as well. I wonder what webmaster@langley.af.mil would have to say about one of their employees playing Tribes and making illegitimate fraud claims from his work account...

It boggles the mind how someone who can't spell every third word and is apparently unaware that they just tried to make an absolutely ridiculous legal case (on company time) could become employed under the US Government.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:33 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jonah"
Ziros, the char WILL be returned to you then? This had absolutely NOTHING to do with me or paypal, yet you decided to get your money back from them anway. If I recieve an email from them, I will have to fill them in on what you're doing.

No, you won't.
The Terms of Service for Paypal states only persons 18 and over can use their services.
They won't talk to you and if you don't let them talk to your parents, they will concider your membership to the site void and revoke the money...
Like i said, don't worry about it. Mommy and daddy will be happy to help you with this.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 08:34 pm CDT: Ziros, if you somehow swindled Paypal into giving you your money back, I'll take my char back.

Thanks.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:55 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jonah"
Ziros, if you somehow swindled Paypal into giving you your money back, I'll take my char back.

Thanks.

Once ore... for the ignorant...

THEY ALREADY GAVE MY MONEY BACK.
NOW IT IS UP TO THEM IF THEY WANT THEIR MONEY BACK FROM YOU.

Unless you're under under 18, Jonah. I wouldn't worry about it...
Oh, but you are...

Thanks.
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:55 pm CDT: Ziros youre just too old for this game... Sorry try Again
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 08:56 pm CDT: You filed a false claim to them. You ARE getting your char back from Particle, yet you told them that it was taken BY ME after I sold it to you, and they gave you your money back.

You led them to believe that I stole it after I sold it to you, which isn't even CLOSE to true.

Anyone else see something wrong with this?
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 08:57 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jim"
Ziros youre just too old for this game... Sorry try Again

Lol... too old for the game?
Ask Part how old he is.
Ask Sin his ages.
LW is the same age as me...
You make such STUPID posts... it's so hard to find an excuse for your stupidity..
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 08:58 pm CDT: particle is like 17 dick weed...
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Post by: Sinister on August 9, 2004 09:12 pm CDT: I was born in 1978 for you math wizards out there. You might be able to deduct how old I am if you try hard enough.
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 09:15 pm CDT: At least you act your age....
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 09:17 pm CDT: Oh, by the way Ziros, I wouldn't mind seeing the email you sent paypal.
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 09:18 pm CDT: yea and im still waiting on the recording....
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 09:19 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jonah"
Oh, by the way Ziros, I wouldn't mind seeing the email you sent paypal.

WTF?
Is this the liberal association of non-believers?
I don't care what you want Jonah. My involvment in this is done. It's not my problem anymore.

Lmao... Jim, you're the prime example of a maturity critic.
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 09:20 pm CDT: Are you really Laughing youre ass off?
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Post by: Jim on August 9, 2004 09:22 pm CDT: And one last time... seriously why did you pay $75?
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 09:23 pm CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
[Is this the liberal association of non-believers?.

I just want to see what lie you cooked up and fed to them.

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It's not my problem anymore.

It never should have been my problem, yet you involved me anyway.
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Post by: LastWish on August 9, 2004 09:37 pm CDT: Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
Quote from: "Jim"
Ziros youre just too old for this game... Sorry try Again
Lol... too old for the game?
Ask Part how old he is.
Ask Sin his ages.
LW is the same age as me...
You make such STUPID posts... it's so hard to find an excuse for your stupidity..

Age is just a number.. I know plenty of 28 year olds who act like 12 year olds.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 9, 2004 09:38 pm CDT: You can get in serious trouble for fraud Ziros...
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Post by: LastWish on August 9, 2004 09:39 pm CDT: ESPECIALLY with PayPal.. they don't mess around when it comes to that.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 09:43 pm CDT: Looks like I'M not the one who needs to be worried here.
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Post by: Razore on August 9, 2004 09:47 pm CDT: So, let me get this straight, Ziros gets his money back...AND gets his char? Rofl. What is he trying to pull? Im laughing so hard..So sad, Ziros.
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Post by: Aphex on August 9, 2004 09:53 pm CDT: Quote from: "LastWish"
ESPECIALLY with PayPal.. they don't mess around when it comes to that.

tell me about it. I accidently overdrew my paypal account. The didnt like that. They shut down my account and I couldnt get it back until I redid all my bank info, faxed them a copy of my id and social secturity card and something else I forgot. They were very mad. and funny thing was I only overdrew a few dollars. they dont like that kind of stuff.
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Post by: Sinister on August 9, 2004 09:58 pm CDT: I dont think he did anything wrong. At the time he filed his complaint, he didn't have possession of the character, so it wasn't a false claim.
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Post by: Newbie on August 9, 2004 10:00 pm CDT: It's kind of funny how Ziros ignores all the posts that prove a good point against him..
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 10:03 pm CDT: Quote from: "Sinister"
I dont think he did anything wrong. At the time he filed his complaint, he didn't have possession of the character, so it wasn't a false claim.
And still don't

Quote from: "Hollywood"
You can get in serious trouble for fraud Ziros...

From where I stand...
a little kid who thinks he is so cool that he can bypass certain security fetures to gain access to game characters is who I believe is responsible.
Not only is he under age but also illeagaly registered on Paypal.
Who are they going to believe?
I tell you again. If you want to get out of it, get your parents involved so I can talk to someone that know's SOMETHING about life...
Ofcorse... they 'raised' you... so maybe they arn't the ones I need to talk to.
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Post by: -Triton- on August 9, 2004 10:07 pm CDT: Ziros, drop it, you will get nothing out of this so why try? As soon as you get that character back its considered fraud. So be prepared, Jonah if I were you as soon as they email me, reply and tell them his character messed up and he claims it was stolen, he just committed fraud.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:07 pm CDT: I did not gain access to your character, therefore I am not responsible for it.

You can't blame someone elses fork up on me to try to get your money back.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 10:10 pm CDT: Quote from: "-Triton-"
...Jonah if I were you as soon as they email me, reply and tell them his character messed up and he claims it was stolen, he just committed fraud.

Quote from: "Jonah"
I did not gain access to your character, therefore I am not responsible for it.

You can't blame someone elses f*** up on me to try to get your money back.

Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
Not only is he under age but also illeagaly registered on Paypal.
Who are they going to believe?
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Post by: Newbie on August 9, 2004 10:12 pm CDT: (http://http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~andress/nei.ch/albums/famousfatboy/ban_him.jpg)
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:12 pm CDT: I am registered under my dad's credit card.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 10:15 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jonah"
I am registered under my dad's credit card.

good. then daddy WILL have to know about this.
malarkey, i should call him.
If i am able to locate you phone number then i will after i get off at 7am this comming morning.

(http://http://130.89.160.183/jig/fora/banthemall.jpg)
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:16 pm CDT: Dude, maybe you can clear this up for me, but what exactly are you telling Paypal that I did? What are you going to tell my parents that I did?

I did nothing to you or your char.
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Post by: Sinister on August 9, 2004 10:20 pm CDT: Placenta......lol, that was good.
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Post by: Newbie on August 9, 2004 10:20 pm CDT: *Ring ring ring*

"Uh Hi, is this Jonah's parents?"
"Who the hell is Jonah...? You mean like Jonah and the whale?? I'm not interested in bible sales; good day"
"No wait, this is a call about your son.."
"What about him"
"He um.. uhh.. his friend stole my PCRPG character that I paid $75 for"
"What the hell is PCRPG??"
"It's the name of the server that he plays Tribes on"
"Oh.. so wait, why does this involve my son if his friend took your character?"
"Uh.. I dunno"
*click*
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:22 pm CDT: I know right, I mean it doesn't even involve me. Like Last and GE said numerous times, you want Jamie, not me.
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 9, 2004 10:23 pm CDT: if jonah didnt do jack s*** to zrio's char, why is legal action being taken against him?
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:24 pm CDT: That's what I'm trying to figure out.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on August 9, 2004 10:48 pm CDT: Quote from: "Jonah"
I am registered under my dad's credit card.
Then he'll vouch for your hacking-hobby.
I'm sure he'd love to know how close you are to the security jurisdiction of the US Air Force.

Quote from: "Jonah"
I know right, I mean it doesn't even involve me. Like Last and GE said numerous times, you want Jamie, not me.

Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
From where I stand...
a little kid who thinks he is so cool that he can bypass certain security fetures to gain access to game characters is who I believe is responsible.
Not only is he under age but also illeagaly registered on Paypal.
Who are they going to believe.

Quote from: "DeadBreed"
if jonah didnt do jack s*** to zrio's char, why is legal action being taken against him?

Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
From where I stand...
a little kid who thinks he is so cool that he can bypass certain security fetures to gain access to game characters is who I believe is responsible.
Not only is he under age but also illeagaly registered on Paypal.
Who are they going to believe.

Quote from: "Jonah"
That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
From where I stand...
a little kid who thinks he is so cool that he can bypass certain security fetures to gain access to game characters is who I believe is responsible.
Not only is he under age but also illeagaly registered on Paypal.
Who are they going to believe.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:51 pm CDT: You don't even make sense.

Get a life man, instead of spending all your time trying to get people in trouble for malarkey they didn't even do.
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 10:55 pm CDT: Quote from: "Hollywood"
First of all Ziros, coming from somebody who actually knows a bit about the law, I can tell you that you have no case here whatsoever. You are not in contract with either Particle or Jonah and neither is liable for damage done to PARTICLE'S character. That's right, it is legally his and you have limited control of it.

Whatever lawyer you talked to is either an idiot or didn't understand exactly what happened here, because nothing will come out of this..
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Post by: Jonah on August 9, 2004 11:00 pm CDT: Whatever, I'm done posting in this thread. I just can't make you understand.

What happens happens, I guess.
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Post by: GE on August 9, 2004 11:04 pm CDT: lmao what does the Air Force have to do w/ this... make you more creditable?
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 9, 2004 11:05 pm CDT: Quote from: "GE"
lmao what does the Air Force have to do w/ this... make you more creditable?

thats what im wondering... jonah did not touch ANY of the air force's computers
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Post by: LastWish on August 9, 2004 11:31 pm CDT: Ziros, you can't do malarkey with paypal against jonah because the transaction was for the character G3. Jonah hasn't touched G3 since he sold it to you, so he has nothing to do with you. You are being stupid.. you and paypal no longer have anything to do with Jonah.
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Post by: Corona on August 9, 2004 11:33 pm CDT: Ziros, you're a goddam riot, man. Thanks.

*hands you a slice of roffleberry pie*
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Post by: Newbie on August 9, 2004 11:48 pm CDT: Poor guy; I bet deep down inside he realizes that he is wrong..

He's just desperately clinging onto the little bit of pride he has left by not admitting his defeat.. When in the end it will only make him look like more of an asshat.

Jonah, I say you counter-sue for false accusations..
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Post by: Jim on August 10, 2004 07:35 am CDT: For the Love of God Quit Ignoring the Question and answer the Question

Why the hell did you pay $75 for thatr damn char?
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Post by: IVIaGiC on August 10, 2004 07:35 am CDT: Umm yea,please get some help Ziros. :wink:
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Post by: Kendril on August 10, 2004 08:38 am CDT: This has to be the dumbest thread I have ever laid my eyes Upon! My eyes burn! And now my head hurts! I need to lay down and take a nap!
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Post by: Jim on August 10, 2004 08:51 am CDT: Ziros is just an attention Whore