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General => Common Topic Symposium => Topic started by: rootbeer on April 22, 2003 10:29 pm CDT

Title: making the server a better and funner place for ur children
Post by: rootbeer on April 22, 2003 10:29 pm CDT: well... post any thoughts u have that would make the server funner :P just a thought!
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Post by: Darwin on April 22, 2003 10:35 pm CDT: I want to see titty bars and crack alleys. 0.o
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Post by: Jonah on April 22, 2003 10:36 pm CDT: Funner?
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Post by: Darwin on April 22, 2003 10:38 pm CDT: Guys the map isnt gonna get any better.

Ozzy and Particle together: That would require a download.
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Post by: Sabby on April 22, 2003 10:46 pm CDT: Quote from: "Darwin"
Guys the map isnt gonna get any better.

Ozzy and Particle together: That would require a download.

Acctaully, not necessairily, Psycho_magus made a download-free map that was awsome.
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Post by: UnderGod on April 22, 2003 10:48 pm CDT: You would only have to dl the map if the ted file was changed.
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Post by: Crash on April 22, 2003 10:51 pm CDT: Then there was Y0SHiB0Y.
His server was bad ass. Until he did that food and water malarkey. I loved dismembering goblin wizards and selling their casting blades at the super merchant for mondo cash.
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Post by: Sabby on April 22, 2003 10:53 pm CDT: You guyz should see Psycho's map :) Added whole bunch of new zones all over the map 2, Really cool... I like it, and it works without downloads
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Post by: Particle on April 22, 2003 10:55 pm CDT: If it's cool and he'd be willing to share I might give it a try.
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Post by: Sabby on April 22, 2003 10:57 pm CDT: Quote from: "Particle"
If it's cool and he'd be willing to share I might give it a try.

He was very willing to share, And you just told him no. Or so his story goes... Then he dissapeared...
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Post by: rootbeer on April 22, 2003 11:32 pm CDT: whos psycho...? is it vorter? and i wanna see his new map! im very interested.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on April 22, 2003 11:41 pm CDT: you will see it soon enough... particle will hopefully test it and help me with monster loadouts and what to make em look like....

heres a sneak peak of whats to come....

8 new dungeons including:

a dragons keep on top of a mountain near edge of map
X-zone mysterious creatures from the cretacious era
and some others im still working on.. an advanced mine for ppl above lvl 60 cus you hafta fly to some places

about 8 or so new towns.... need to create new weps and stuff still if someone wants to help me with that ill give ya banker and merchant locations and questbot for each town...

Nalti a desert town off in the distance
Mountain Town exactly what the title says
Uber City peaceful ubers have retreated from Uber Zone and created a town across the valley from the zone

and so on...

if anyone would like to help with this please give suggestions and maybe you can help with weps too
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Post by: rootbeer on April 23, 2003 01:29 am CDT: sounds awesome
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Post by: UnderGod on April 23, 2003 05:22 am CDT: Hang on a minute guys...

Don't go all out on a map..

You have to realize that this is a 30 player server. THe last thing that is needed is the memory buffers to overload causing the server to crash every 10 minutes or enough zones to lag the server to kingdom come.

There is nothing wrong with a new map.. Just realize how much you put into it.
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Post by: Khorne on April 23, 2003 08:16 am CDT: True it does seem a bit over the top. No offence but take out needless things like more towns. Wtf Uber town? rofl!
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Post by: Resident_Evil on April 23, 2003 11:17 am CDT: Quote from: "Darwin"
I want to see titty bars and crack alleys. 0.o

i bet dar would want me in there
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Post by: Xanth on April 23, 2003 12:26 pm CDT: On the subject of server lag...
How about a ZoneAbandonded script to #delbot's when there has been noone in an Zone for more than 90 seconds?
Bored Bots = Lag (at least they did on my server)
Just a thought...
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Post by: BladeFFXI on April 23, 2003 01:03 pm CDT: how to make the server a better and funner place for your children... well, i was playing on Ozz's server last night, figured id check it out. *(this is not a paid advertisement brought to you by Ozz, nor is this an attempt to get people to play on that server, it is merely my experience there)* And i was rather impressed with a number of things. They have a training ground, for really low levels. the monsters dont have any weapons, but they're easy to kill. You start off with 50k in the bank, so money isnt a really huge deal until you start buying mid grade armor/weapons. There are no rusty weapons, so getting money is a little easier, i didnt get a chacne to mine so i dont know if the ore sells for more. They have a buttload of cool lookin spells, monsters, zones, and different classes than the norm.

new zones/weapons/spells/monsters etc, help as well. i remember particle and ug talking about getting rid of all the rusty items, and making new items in replace of those. it would make enemies a bit tougher considering the majority of them carry rusty weapons. however, making defense and strength available at an earlier level might even things out against the enemies who would no longer be carrying rusty weapons.

Quests would help to make the game funner for all. i remember particle and ug would script quests all the time. what i thought was fun was the hazard course particle made in the sky, where we all had to get to the top without using ww's/bogs/paws. the three who made it to the top got a prize according to the order of who got there first, second, and third. part had the barstools set up so we could all pose for a screenshot. good times... that were had by all, need to be had again.

anyway, just some old ideas that needed reviving.
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Post by: Crash on April 23, 2003 02:17 pm CDT: Blade, Ozz's server has a nice set up, but the admins are total idiots. There is an admin named Quazimoto who knew nothing except #addexp, #kill, and #kick. He knew no other commands.
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Post by: BladeFFXI on April 23, 2003 03:00 pm CDT: melkores a pretty cool admin, and hes good with the commands. hes also a really decent guy, who realizes the responsibility of being an admin and doesnt abuse what he has. now, ive only seen one admin so far, and the server owner kinda typed some stuff in saying hi and whatnot. seems there was another blade on the server a while ago, and they think im him.
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 23, 2003 03:40 pm CDT: bleh.. have u played red moon? for tribes i mean...

now thats a mod :P but of course u had to download it i dunno if deus ex... and the rest are even continueing it.... i doubt it... im not even sure if they have a host for it anymore
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Post by: BladeFFXI on April 23, 2003 04:25 pm CDT: the fish that shoots malarkey at you? yeah.. me too.. i kinda stopped playing when i got timed out because of the damn gate that goes up and down.
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Post by: Newbie on April 23, 2003 04:26 pm CDT: Quote from: "Sabby"
Quote from: "Particle"
If it's cool and he'd be willing to share I might give it a try.

He was very willing to share, And you just told him no. Or so his story goes... Then he dissapeared...

I am Psycho_Magus... I would host a server with the map, but I just reformatted and I don't have the Tribes disk anymore. I would be more than willing to share the map with the server but I need to make some adjustments first, I have way too many items and zones and it causes killer lag. Once I get Tribes installed I'll delete some of the less necessary zones and then put it up for player opinion...
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Post by: Sabby on April 23, 2003 04:32 pm CDT: Didnt lag me when I played on ur server.
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Post by: Newbie on April 23, 2003 04:34 pm CDT: Well.. some players for some reason or another time out, I dunno.. I've had many people try and connect to my server and then drop.
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Post by: Sabby on April 23, 2003 04:40 pm CDT: Maybe you could send the map to Particle and if the players find problems with lag then we can go back, no harm done.
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Post by: BladeFFXI on April 23, 2003 04:40 pm CDT: oh hey, long time no see psycho. i guess i should have known that was you from your sig...
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Post by: Newbie on April 23, 2003 05:06 pm CDT: Hey Blade, been a while.. nice seeing you back
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Post by: Xanth on April 23, 2003 05:11 pm CDT: If anyone gives a hoot I am Questmaster there 8)
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Post by: Newbie on April 23, 2003 05:32 pm CDT: Quote from: "Xanth"
If anyone gives a hoot I am Questmaster there 8)

From NQ?!?!?!?
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Post by: Pecker on April 23, 2003 06:05 pm CDT: He means Ozz's server and he's a very good one
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Post by: Newbie on April 23, 2003 06:18 pm CDT: Oh, I thought he was "QuestMaster" from the original NeverQuest server..
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Post by: Xanth on April 23, 2003 06:22 pm CDT: Yes I am and ... I am.
I am the Same Questmaster from Never Quest.
I just happen to be Questmaster at Ozz as well.
O happy day! :)
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Post by: Newbie on April 23, 2003 06:27 pm CDT: Omg! That server was the coolest.. it's nice to see an old Never Quester.. heheh
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on April 23, 2003 07:30 pm CDT: umm yeah part can i send you the map its not finished but i wanna see if it lags... and also umm could i give you the info on merchants and bankers and u can put em in? and questbots that dont work yet...

also umm youd need to put in the ummm spikes i think and the elven huge trees...

hehe my map didnt work with em so it deleted em by itself... er my comp didnt
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Post by: Newbie on April 23, 2003 08:04 pm CDT: Why don't you host your own server..?
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Post by: Knyght on April 23, 2003 09:06 pm CDT: EDIT: nm
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on April 23, 2003 09:24 pm CDT: cant this comp hates dedicated and reg servers wont even let me log on particles first try
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Post by: Jason_Xero on April 23, 2003 09:53 pm CDT: Quote from: "xkenshinx"
bleh.. have u played red moon? for tribes i mean...

now thats a mod :P but of course u had to download it i dunno if deus ex... and the rest are even continueing it.... i doubt it... im not even sure if they have a host for it anymore

I think Deus Ex is working on Redmoon2, or was...
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Post by: UnderGod on April 23, 2003 10:37 pm CDT: Deus is working on RM2, but he doesn't have the time..

THough IS has been in dev a lot longer, and well.. Deus has done a lot more.

RM was a cool mod. It is just there were a few bugs.

Bots couldn't swim.. THey just moved really fast.

And yes everything looked better, because they made their own textures. Which won't be done on this server because it would require a dl.
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Post by: Darwin on April 23, 2003 10:52 pm CDT: Quote from: "UnderGod"
because it would require a dl.

Can always count on you and particle to tell us that... everytime some thread like this pops up.
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Post by: eViL on April 23, 2003 11:41 pm CDT: because they are stupid.
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 24, 2003 12:15 am CDT: yes. yes they are
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Post by: Particle on April 24, 2003 12:23 am CDT: Quote from: "eViL"
because they are stupid.

Are you calling the thread starters stupid or UG and myself?
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Post by: UnderGod on April 24, 2003 07:04 am CDT: Me and You.

Though I would say it is more the opposite.
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Post by: Particle on April 24, 2003 08:32 am CDT: Same. New models, prefabs, relighting, terrain, etc = download. Anybody that wants to say differently can code their own way around it for PCRPG... then I'll stop saying that all the time. Until then: new models, prefabs, relighting, terrain, etc = download.
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Post by: BladeFFXI on April 24, 2003 11:25 am CDT: so, i have a question then... lets say someone makes a spell, and uses the graphics from tribes, in order to give it some sort of special effect. does that = download? i know weapons dont, unless you change the skins... and man, if i knew how to skin weapons, i sure as hell would make some new ones for your server part.

also, who cares about downloading a patch.. i mean, i play games that require patches all the time. half life, requires an 80 mb patch, from vers. 1.0.0.9 - 1.1.1.0. i honestly would embrace having to download patches and updates in order to have a different trpg experience. unless theres some greater reason out there why downloading sucks... im sure evil will point it out for me . anyway, if Anyone can help me skin weapons for tribes, i would be grateful...

EDIT: found a dts exporter for 3dsmax 4/3 and one for milkshape, which of these two would allow me to skin weapons faster? i know a little about 3dsmax, and i think i dled milkshape a long time ago, i just cant remember what was easier...
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Post by: Jason_Xero on April 24, 2003 03:26 pm CDT: I remember someone did from a while back. He was making models and such... Let me see if I can find it on the forum history- sorry couldn't find it. I think some of the old posts aren't on here because Particle had to use a backup version of the forums some time ago and I think some of the posts are lost in the infinite void of time/space. But I'm sure someone can remember his name.

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Yes, thank you Pecker, he was Coalchamber.
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Post by: Pecker on April 24, 2003 03:29 pm CDT: Coalchamber?
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Post by: Knyght on April 24, 2003 03:32 pm CDT: Quote from: "BladeFFXI"
unless theres some greater reason out there why downloading sucks

Something about newbies getting confused with having to download something additionally to the normal RPG download*shrug*
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Post by: UnderGod on April 24, 2003 03:56 pm CDT: Particle wants this server to be newbie friendly.. And I would get pissed if I were to dl a 50 mb file and find out I couldn't play on a server without downloading another file. So I just wouldn't play on that server.

And if someone where to make a new spell like you just asked, no they wouldn't need to.. Those are still tribes textures and everyone has them allready.
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Post by: Newbie on April 24, 2003 05:49 pm CDT: Quote from: "UnderGod"
Particle wants this server to be newbie friendly.

Blah!

Who needs newbies anyhow, *looks at name* :P
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Post by: Darwin on April 24, 2003 06:08 pm CDT: But even getting started in trpg isnt newbie friendly! You know that it took me like 50 tries before i realized where the "other info" box was?
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Post by: Particle on April 24, 2003 06:37 pm CDT: Unless I seperated myself from TRPG completely (which wouldn't be fair, considering JI did most of the work) then no downloads for us.

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Well, I say that. I'd have two servers, one being normal PCRPG and another being a DL PCRPG version for all of the people that really want something fresh and new. It would most likely have changing maps and junk.
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Post by: Razore on April 24, 2003 08:07 pm CDT: Why not get rid of ALL the patches and make 1 big patch that has all the updates and the new maps and crap so you only have to do one dowload instead of chasing around thru the iternet for 1 damn patch, i spent hours getting the patch cause i didnt have gamespay and couldnt find the freeservers
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Post by: Knyght on April 24, 2003 08:45 pm CDT: Quote from: "Razore"
Why not get rid of ALL the patches and make 1 big patch that has all the updates and the new maps and crap so you only have to do one dowload instead of chasing around thru the iternet for 1 damn patch, i spent hours getting the patch cause i didnt have gamespay and couldnt find the freeservers

Not everyone has broadband.
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Post by: Crash on April 24, 2003 09:02 pm CDT: Another reason they are still in 3 seperate updates is because the official file downloading page can't be accessed by anyone but TangWei--and he is no longer part of the community.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on April 24, 2003 09:34 pm CDT: lol that sucks i just put em all on a disc
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Post by: Crash on April 24, 2003 10:07 pm CDT: Then mail copies of that disc to every newbie out there.
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Post by: UnderGod on April 24, 2003 10:59 pm CDT: It is easier to do it in small patches like that if JI needed to change something.
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Post by: Particle on April 24, 2003 11:08 pm CDT: Beats downloading 45MB every small change.