Particle's Custom RPG

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Title: Eh?
Post by: Crash on December 22, 2002 02:55 pm CST

http://www.leisuregames.co.uk/acatalog/ ... __722.html (http://www.leisuregames.co.uk/acatalog/Leisure_Games_OnLine_Tribes_RPG__Steve_Jackson_Games__722.html)

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 22, 2002 03:40 pm CST

There seems to be a lot of places selling that game.  Either somebody else made an RPG mod for Tribes and just had the poor luck to name it "Tribes RPG", or somebody is trying to market JI's work.

Possibly TRPG as we know of it was developed after this one in the store.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 22, 2002 04:41 pm CST

Its in Europe, isnt it legal to do that there?

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Crash on December 22, 2002 05:48 pm CST

I read through the site. It is some different game named Tribes.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 23, 2002 05:20 am CST

Ok, I sent off an email to the store and they told me it's not the same.  Here's the info (technically, JI can't really use the Tribes RPG name as it's (c) 1998 by this company).

----- Original Message -----
From: Leisure Games
To: 'Particle'
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: Regarding an Item for Sale


I think we are probably talking about different games.

The Tribes RPG that we stock is published by an American company called Steve Jackson Games and was designed by David Brin and Steve Jackson (copyright 1998). It's only a small game that is a sort of cross-between an actaual RPG and a boardgame.

Best wishes and thanks for the info (I'll take a look at the link you sent us later),
Angus Abranson
Leisure Games
"Where Games are for life, not just for Christmas..."
Tel: +44 (0)20 8346 2327
http://www.leisuregames.com (http://www.leisuregames.com)




-----Original Message-----
From: Particle [mailto:particle@xfury.net]
Sent: 23 December 2002 01:39
To: http://www.planettribes.com/rpg/downloads/ (http://www.planettribes.com/rpg/downloads/)

-Particle

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: UnderGod on December 23, 2002 06:48 am CST

Actually TRPG did come out in 98 I believe..

Yes I think it was the summer of 98.. I don't know it has been a long time.

So if TRPG came out before it, then they can't copywrite it..

But JI isn't selling it, because you can't sell a mod of a game without Sierra getting a big chunk out of it (It wouldn't be worth much anyway).

Not to mention everything would have to be encrypted so noone could make changes like us.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 23, 2002 09:15 am CST

It's commercialized, they'd win.  Period.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 23, 2002 10:53 am CST

So, does this mean we have to call this Starsiege: Tribes RPG?  Or how about: RPG mod.  Or maybe: Superdarwin RPG?

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 23, 2002 01:10 pm CST

How about we continute to call it TRPG or Tribes RPG.  The Tribes in each title means different things.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: UnderGod on December 23, 2002 02:48 pm CST

Yes the title of the game is not Tribes.... It is Starsiege: Tribes..

Only Tribes 2 is just Tribes...

And frankly... That isn't much money they are selling it for.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 23, 2002 02:52 pm CST

So I guess if those developers of that game decide to come out with a sequel, they would have to be a little more creative with their name.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Crash on December 23, 2002 04:15 pm CST

Seeing as Sierra owns the name "Tribes 2" I guess they would. But, I doubt that game will have a sequal.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 23, 2002 04:19 pm CST

I am playing JDoom right now, and it is so forking awesome.  It renders the doom .wad files in OpenGL or D3D, and you can also download model and weapons packs that make the game completely 3D.  Tonight I'm going to reach a level where I fight a Cyberdemon to see how it looks.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 23, 2002 05:37 pm CST

Quake looks cool now:
http://www.tim.xfury.net/q1ht.jpg (http://www.tim.xfury.net/q1ht.jpg)

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 23, 2002 06:04 pm CST

Wow, those were some nice particle/fog effects. So, what program is that that renders Quake?


*edit*
Is it me, or do the plates on the floor look bumpmapped?

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Crash on December 23, 2002 06:34 pm CST

Looks more like depth change to me.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 23, 2002 07:37 pm CST

Definately. And if you look closely, those graphics acually look similar to what we saw in the Halo 2 trailer. Damn those graphics are sweet. What is the name of that program Particle? And what are the requirements?


*edit*
Is it me, or are the lights causing the surfaces to actually cast shadows on platforms below them?  (see the step to the left)

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 24, 2002 03:27 am CST

That's plain Quake 1. People have taken the engine and modified it to include bump mapping, per pixel lighting (the shadows you were noticing--all lighting is dynamic, same tech as doom 3), and various other visual enhancements like volumetric fog.

You can play Quake like that in real-time. It's a mod.
http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/ (http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/)

That screen shot is Tenebrae with the High-Res e1m1 project texture set. I also run (unseen in the picture) a set of high-poly models and "boxes".

I did some more pictures showing off the blood and water this morning.  Don't worry about that band at the top, it's an artifact from my video card.  Happens in HL sometimes too.

http://www.tim.xfury.net/Q1sp.jpg (http://www.tim.xfury.net/Q1sp.jpg)
http://www.tim.xfury.net/Q1wa.jpg (http://www.tim.xfury.net/Q1wa.jpg)

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Crash on December 24, 2002 07:19 am CST

Wow... Those graphics kick arse.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Crash on December 24, 2002 07:19 am CST

Wow... Those graphics kick arse.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: UnderGod on December 24, 2002 07:37 am CST

Wow.. Those graphics kick arse

I wish CS had those graphics... then I would buy it.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 24, 2002 08:05 am CST

Not bad for a game made in 1996, is it?

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 24, 2002 08:15 am CST

Ahh, those brilliant people from sourceforge.  You know they are the guys that also brought us Xbox linux, which I will be installing on my own xbox in a few days.

Perhaps I will rune WINE and see if I can run tribes on it.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 24, 2002 08:17 am CST

Damn, a 600mhz requirement.  Guess I'm gonna have to wait till tomorrow or something.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Edom on December 24, 2002 09:11 pm CST

How do u get that little picture on the left? btw even though i dun like doom or quake or wutever that is... i was drooling over those graphix

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Edom on December 24, 2002 09:13 pm CST

Part, i noticed that there are no longer stars but now we have balls... is that so Shorty cannot kill anyone with his stars???????????

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 25, 2002 10:51 am CST

Nah, just decided to try spheres instead of stars.  I think they look better than those stupid yellow and orange stars.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Zieg_Feld on December 25, 2002 12:33 pm CST

I have four balls.. o_O

Merry Christmas, btw~

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Pecker on December 26, 2002 09:05 am CST

Am I the only person to still see stars????? I've never seen these spheres, always stars. hmmm.....

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 26, 2002 10:50 am CST

Mods and admin still use stars by their names.  Click the refresh button and it should update though.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Pecker on December 26, 2002 04:28 pm CST

Ah I did refresh and now I see them. For the last how many ever days we've had them i still saw stars even after I would post. strange indeed.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 26, 2002 05:29 pm CST

That's what we call Internet cache.  Good on my webserver as well!

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Pecker on December 26, 2002 05:39 pm CST

Ok, not so strange but....ya know....umm....yeah i knew that

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 26, 2002 06:17 pm CST

hehe *nudge*

Sure ya did!  8)

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 26, 2002 10:42 pm CST

I ran Tenebrae on my new laptop w/ 2 ghz, 256 mb ram, and 32 mb rage mobility card, and it ran like a terrorist with a leg wound.  Im gonna tweak it a little bit, mebbe drop the resolution to 320x240 and see how that runs.


Oh, and btw, is that the same Tenebrae that does the 3D modeling that we see in the credits for DeusPack?

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 27, 2002 06:03 am CST

Doubtful.

Try running it 720x480x32 non-windowed, full mirrors but don't force all water reflective, don't enable glares, radius scale .4, original size textures, trilinear filtering, no texture compression, anisotropy 1 (None), 22050Hz sample rate with 16bit sound.

Run that, it works pretty good on my GF3 Ti500.

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Darwin on December 27, 2002 02:51 pm CST

I have a ti500 on this desktop comp im using right now, but i get an error everytime I try to run tenebrae:

ARB_texture_env_dot3 not found
Probably your 3d-card is not supported

Thats what it says.  Do I have to d/l special textures or something?

Title: Re: Eh?
Post by: Particle on December 27, 2002 03:41 pm CST

You don't have to.  Try updating your drivers.