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General => Common Topic Symposium => Topic started by: eViL on April 23, 2003 11:31 pm CDT

Title: Natural-Selection
Post by: eViL on April 23, 2003 11:31 pm CDT
the greatest HL mod of all time =D, well, not really but its fun.

Download Natural Selection Here (http://http://www.natural-selection.org)
Download C-D (Cheating-Death, Anti-Cheat Program, Required For Some Servers) (http://http://redphive.org/?view=redphive_file_display)
Find Friends (http://http://www.gametiger.net)

[eBe]Apophis <- me
Crash&Burn <- obvious
BladeFFXI <- obvious
[orb]Particle <- guessing thats his name

woo hoo, have fun!

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Post by: Sabby on April 23, 2003 11:33 pm CDT
Bleah now post a link for halflife download :P
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on April 24, 2003 12:03 am CDT
http://www.bestbuy.com (http://www.bestbuy.com)

but you don't exactly "download" it  :P

yes, Natural Selection rocks.. i play it

I am CobrA
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Post by: UnderGod on April 24, 2003 07:03 am CDT
Is the CD put out by Valve or Sierra?
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Post by: Hack-N-Slash on April 24, 2003 07:47 am CDT
Developer: Valve
Distributor: Sierra
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Post by: Khorne on April 24, 2003 08:16 am CDT
Tisk Tisk Tisk TFC S&I is the best HL mod :\
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Post by: Particle on April 24, 2003 08:28 am CDT
Quote from: "Khorne"
Tisk Tisk Tisk TFC S&I is the best HL mod :\


S&I has almost no following anymore.
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Post by: Jason_Xero on April 24, 2003 03:16 pm CDT
And since the main developers have left the team, the mod is going no where.  I used to look forward to the cool new betas that came out.  Reminds me of the good 'ol cstrike beta days.  Oh how I miss them  :cry:  :cry:
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Post by: Darwin on April 24, 2003 05:49 pm CDT
I like natural selection too  :D

How ironic.

Yeah, great mod.  Only thing that bugs me is that I only seem to find UK servers.  Not only are the "mates" on my team hard to understand, my ping takes a small toll too.

I really like the graphics.  Amazing what the half life engine can do.
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Post by: Particle on April 24, 2003 06:31 pm CDT
It's an illusion.  They've got good graphic artists is all.
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on April 24, 2003 06:44 pm CDT
HL has better graphics than Tribes
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Post by: eViL on April 24, 2003 07:25 pm CDT
/me needs a vid card...
my fps hits like .1 when i look at a phase gate... its not cool
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Post by: UnderGod on April 24, 2003 10:56 pm CDT
Ok.. I dislike NS..

I'm sorry, but I love the idea.. It is just it isn't balanced enough yet.
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Post by: Particle on April 24, 2003 11:06 pm CDT
Sure it is.
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 24, 2003 11:32 pm CDT
when is the resident evil mod... coming out for HL? thats the only reason im keeping HL on my hard drive... counter strike = luck/cheaters  :cry:

i prefer games where u need skill like....... Tribes :P
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Post by: UnderGod on April 25, 2003 05:45 am CDT
connection bug?
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Post by: Particle on April 25, 2003 08:19 am CDT
RTS's might just be your cup-o-tea, if you know what I mean.  I'm probably just wasting my time because you already know about them, but I will continue on the off chance you don't.  They're constantly changing--you have to adapt new strategies or you'll fail.  In AOE2, the maps are random each time.  It's never a stale map with premade tactics.
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Post by: UnderGod on April 25, 2003 10:47 am CDT
Well there are a limited # of maps on AOE2.

I think there are like 25-50 for each type.

But still you are right. THe more random the maps the better.

NS can't be played like that though.. First of all no one would know where anything is to defend ect. Except maybe aliens, but then again.. You don't know the directions to that place.

I just don't understand how when I shoot an alien it takes 10 bullets to kill, and when a marine shoots me it takes 1-4.  And when I'm an alien it taked 4-5 bites to kill a marine, but they seem to do it in 1.

They said there is no difference in damage in hit boxes on the site.

Of course this could be because I was lagging badly.. I can't seem to find a NS server where I ping under 100.
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Post by: BladeFFXI on April 25, 2003 11:50 am CDT
i have to agree with you there man.. first off, my vid card sucked ass so i was shooting at the wall for 2-3 seconds while the little alien bastard came up and bit my legs off. i re-installed hl, and i will install ns when i get home. perhaps i'll do as evil said and learn how to use the commanders chair...
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 25, 2003 04:54 pm CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
connection bug?


theres a connection bug in cs... i doubt u ever ran into it... cause u can probably connect to a game.. but if u fail.. connecting.. for some reason.. then you can't connect to any server unless u go back to the begining screen... which on my computer is a hassle.. since i lag... like a mofo.. i can own.. in cs if im playing at a friends house.. or something.. but when i get home.. its just sad  :P but its kinda boring... ill stick too aoe2/ultima/mugen too kill time
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Post by: Particle on April 25, 2003 05:40 pm CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
Well there are a limited # of maps on AOE2.

I think there are like 25-50 for each type.

But still you are right. THe more random the maps the better.

NS can't be played like that though.. First of all no one would know where anything is to defend ect. Except maybe aliens, but then again.. You don't know the directions to that place.

I just don't understand how when I shoot an alien it takes 10 bullets to kill, and when a marine shoots me it takes 1-4.  And when I'm an alien it taked 4-5 bites to kill a marine, but they seem to do it in 1.

They said there is no difference in damage in hit boxes on the site.

Of course this could be because I was lagging badly.. I can't seem to find a NS server where I ping under 100.


I noticed that myself, and I at first attributed it to other people's skill levels.  I later realized this was wrong and remembered the stuff I was reading about how the HL netcode, etc. works.  Not every shot is sent to all clients to conserve the amount of data sent.  It doesn't make sense to send 11 packets per second to each client when a person is just firing, not to mention all the other packets for other game data.  They actually do fire a lot more than you get the impression from the HL engine that they do.
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Post by: Darwin on April 25, 2003 09:18 pm CDT
People dont get good pings in NS because many of the servers are hosted in the UK.
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Post by: eViL on April 25, 2003 10:28 pm CDT
bullmalarkey, i ping 35 to the Evil clan server.

oz, go try to bite someone at the beginning of a game, and make the bites to the back/chest or some other major body part.  the difference in damage and malarkey is because of upgrades, if marines have lvl 2 weapons, aliens are forked unless u have carapace.  if aliens have cara and marines have lvl 1 armor and lvl 1 guns, they are goin to get owned.  thats the point, it makes the team work together to try to defend your defense towers for alien or defend your infantry portals for marines.  the upgrades and advancements win, unless you are talented.  even if you have like lvl 3 carapace vs lvl 3 weapons and lvl 3 armor, you can still own them all, just make your shots count.
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Post by: UnderGod on April 25, 2003 10:30 pm CDT
I am talking about the most basic stuff at the beginning of a match.

And I know what your talking about ken..
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Post by: eViL on April 25, 2003 10:35 pm CDT
then you just suck at alien oz, go marine instead.

if u have no aim (like crash) with skulk, don't go alien until you learn, the skulk is the best alien to be unless you can get fade or onos.  so master skulk skills, use parasite, helps you keep track of when marines move.  ambush them from a vent and just take them out as they try to relocate.  and never let them take 2 hives, stop them from moving past the first relocation.
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Post by: UnderGod on April 25, 2003 10:39 pm CDT
But what about marine?

I fire over 20 bullets into the skulls and they don't die! And that is the truth!
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Post by: eViL on April 25, 2003 10:41 pm CDT
because of carapace.
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 25, 2003 11:02 pm CDT
hmmm this sounds interesting... i might give it a shot... whats the DL size? i don't got much room on this harddrive ...  :cry:
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Post by: UnderGod on April 25, 2003 11:14 pm CDT
90mb dl

Whats carapace?
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Post by: Darwin on April 25, 2003 11:17 pm CDT
The carapace of an insect is like a protective shell.  For example, the ladybug has a carapace covereing over his/her wings.

I believe you upgrade/evolve the carapace in game.
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Post by: UnderGod on April 25, 2003 11:22 pm CDT
I knew that Darwin.

But I am talking about the beginning of the game.. no one has anything like that within the first 5 minutes.
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Post by: eViL on April 26, 2003 12:17 am CDT
bull malarkey they don't.

took me and [evil] One 2 minutes to get 3 d chambers up and every person on our team had lvl 3 carapace in 3 minutes.
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 26, 2003 12:40 am CDT
reminds me of.. starcraft
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Post by: UnderGod on April 26, 2003 12:43 am CDT
Me too

And Starcraft reminds me of... Starship Troopers
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Post by: Crash on April 26, 2003 03:41 pm CDT
Starship Troopers reminds me...
/gets out the KY
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Post by: UnderGod on April 26, 2003 03:50 pm CDT
Yes KFC it a very tasty dish.
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Post by: LastWish on April 26, 2003 04:01 pm CDT
I heard "Stronghold" was a cool game.. anyone have it/played it before and have an opinion?
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Post by: Darwin on April 26, 2003 06:21 pm CDT
Dont change the subject lastwish...


....So anyway me and this latin chick were makin out in the broom closet, and sh.....

 :twisted:

I played The Battle Grounds HL mod.  It was funny.  Its about the revolutionary war battles.  I join a server, and nobody is doing anything.  They are just running around spawning zombies and killing them.

I run around and kill a few british, and get kicked.
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 26, 2003 06:24 pm CDT
lets hear more about this Latin chick...

 :wink:
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Post by: Darwin on April 26, 2003 06:36 pm CDT
Use your imagination to its dirtiest extent, and thats what happened.
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Post by: xkenshinx on April 26, 2003 06:41 pm CDT
darwin.. started groping.. and asked.. i hope thats a ruler in your pocket.. and then in a low voice... eViL says... nah baby im just happy to see u..

*shudders... now thats dirty
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Post by: Darwin on April 26, 2003 08:36 pm CDT
Hmm.  Guess my mind isnt as dirty as you.  Thats a good thing.