Particle's Custom RPG

General => Common Topic Symposium => Topic started by: Particle on June 2, 2003 01:17 pm CDT

Title: Never Popular, Clear Char Vote
Post by: Particle on June 2, 2003 01:17 pm CDT
Let me start off my making it clear this is just for acceptibility of such an idea.  I am not insisting that this will decide a char clear.  My reasoning is this:

PEOPLE ARE TOO BIG FOR THEIR BRITCHES ANYMORE.

If you agree and think a clear char would be beneficial and you would definately keep playing, then please vote yes.  If not, then vote no.  If this vote goes well, I might just clear everybody... maybe below a bar.  If the older characters left, it might be for the best anyhow... the newbies would catch a lot less flak.  :)
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Post by: -RPG-secretagnt on June 2, 2003 02:32 pm CDT
Meh, the real problem came when you started importing characters. ;)

But hey, a clearchar is always... healthy... I guess.
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 2, 2003 02:37 pm CDT
i agree.

if your gonna clear.. make it so people can't transfer with remort 50s

*cough* vorterx

 :wink:
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 2, 2003 03:54 pm CDT
I do think there should be a character clear, but here's the thing.

You really shouldn't trust the opinions of low-remorts, like myself. I am only RL.24, but I know that if I worked up to god or some other high remort, I would be somewhat distressed at the loss of my character.

However, there are way too many gods around. Everyone knows that this is true. Some grumble and complain, but nobody can disavow the fact that gods are becoming over-populated. It's difficult for some people to level without watching your back for some god, or making sure you don't piss off the wrong people.

Here's my suggestion. Wipe the server clean. Destroy absolutely everybody's character. But, two things. We'll need some way of keeping names. I just know that there'll be some ass reserving everyone's name. Another thing, I really think that the remort requirement for god should be higher. I don't think that a god requirement of RL.200 is out of the question. There's something else that came to me, too. I think that it would be a great idea if, instead of a higher remort requirement, peopl RL.100 and above have to be verified to be able to pass the L.174 block. People that the admins are sure would not go on killing sprees or wreak random havoc. I personally like this idea, but it's obviously open to suggestion.

Anyway, I've been rambling for too long. I voted 'yes', by the way.

Oh, another thing. I think that a character clear should be put to a debate, not a vote.
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Post by: Daywalker on June 2, 2003 04:08 pm CDT
I dont think a clear char is all that bad , but then again not all that good i think more less the prob with the gods getting out of hand is , they are bored ,
once ya reach god there really is nothing to do,,

but help or reak havoc,
i know it is a pain in the ass, and  i am sure you are about sick of making sht for this game,, it does get old after a while ,, but perhaps if ya ever get a second wind, or if someone can make and send a god zone , give the gods something to do,
I liked that  temp zone ozzy had with the jumping elementalist not sure on the spelling for those, never the less that was a kewl zone, ( VERY )
they werent easy to  kill  kewl rewards,

and it does suk working all that time to watch char go bye bye ,  :shock:
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Post by: Jonah on June 2, 2003 04:13 pm CDT
I'd leave if there was a char clearing.


'nuff said
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Post by: UnderGod on June 2, 2003 04:18 pm CDT
No it isn't enough.
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 2, 2003 04:20 pm CDT
i don't realy play much anymore... being a god and all..

so im kinda biased

if we do get a clear... i want my rank points... lol those were harder to get then god lol
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Post by: Particle on June 2, 2003 06:14 pm CDT
The whole point is to clear everything.
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 2, 2003 06:16 pm CDT
yeah.... i know... it was a joke  :roll:

part can u get rid of that lil druglord from my avatar thing...

and give me a "special" name instead of druglord? lol i don't realy know what i want as the name... so whatever lol
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Post by: Razore on June 2, 2003 06:31 pm CDT
....I definatly would not play, Even tho i have a god, my razore char took over about maybe 10 months to get to rl 12.....That really sucked
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Post by: Pecker on June 2, 2003 06:34 pm CDT
Guys I asked Particle about the names being "stolen". He asked me tell you what he said

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Particle: I can make a program to go through all the chars and just blank everything out leaving the username and password
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Post by: LastWish on June 2, 2003 06:42 pm CDT
That would be cool.  I think it would be a good idea to see everyone start over, and give others the chance to become the newbie killing Gods :)
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Post by: remote-control on June 2, 2003 06:45 pm CDT
W00T!!!!!!! yeah, i think parts right, people are becoming to big for there "britches", and now most of them just screw around with other peoples lvling and all, so i think it would be awesome! it would be something new and different :-D,
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Post by: Dasher on June 2, 2003 06:46 pm CDT
hate doing it but id love to have it evened out with everyone  *yes*
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Post by: j-brown on June 2, 2003 07:20 pm CDT
when do you plan on doing it particle? that way i can start asap?
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Post by: Daywalker on June 2, 2003 08:22 pm CDT
Hey , if ya do plan on doing it ,, would it be possible to send me a copy of my file ,,
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Post by: Razore on June 2, 2003 08:49 pm CDT
Hey i dont think its that fair cause of 20 people voting, why dont you get on the server and ask the other more than half the population
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Post by: remote-control on June 2, 2003 09:28 pm CDT
shut up razore.. please.. if only 21 people decide to vote, then so be it, stop crying about it just because the "Yes"'s are winning.
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Post by: Seasomeor on June 2, 2003 09:38 pm CDT
I voted no... partly because I won't be able to play as much as I did last year... so my character wouldn't probably even remort...  I'd get sick of starting over, even though everyone else would too (it's bad enough that I've only had to miss like 8 months because my character has been messed up during those times)...

perhaps something like a 1/10 character deal thing... a rl 100 God can be changed to a rl 10?  or 1/5 or however... starting all the way over is kinda a hassle once you've reached rl 300... though lol, i must say i would kinda favor it... it would at least stop accusations made by a not so friendly person towards me... lol, wait it won't stop that...

If there is a character clear, I'd like to see the leveling system that you made once before... where it takes like 500 exp for lvl 1, and then you add 5% more exp every level, or however that went...  

it would be weird not having a player to mess around on, the more I think about it, the more I think I wouldn't play lol...

I do agree there are too many gods running around, and perhaps having the exp system and boosting the level 1 up per remort will slow people down... lol if it starts over, I'll be on to watch and not actually play... oh and if it happens, can i have my character sent to me, or saved by you or something
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Post by: Particle on June 2, 2003 11:52 pm CDT
Seasomer, I don't think that's a good idea.  An RL10 to an RL0 would be the same as an RL 100 to an RL1000.

If only this many people care to vote then so be it.  It's only been a single day anyhow.  I'm sure word will spread.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 2, 2003 11:54 pm CDT
Quote from: "xkenshinx"
i agree.

if your gonna clear.. make it so people can't transfer with remort 50s

*cough* vorterx

 :wink:


excuse me i came in at rl 42 and newbie was shuttin down for a while so i needed somewhere to go while he moved... i just happened to stay here because particle asked me if i knew how to use WC

which i do
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 3, 2003 01:17 am CDT
lol i just guessed  :roll:
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Post by: Purple-HaZe on June 3, 2003 01:36 am CDT
A character clear would have it's benefits, but when I consider all the aspects of it; I beleive we shouldn't have one.
A lot of people will quit the server if there is a character clear. Most active players do not want to start over and shouldn't be forced to do so.
As for "People getting to big for their britches", maybe a revision of the rules and a few inforcers would solve that problem.
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Post by: Hack-N-Slash on June 3, 2003 08:41 am CDT
Clear, but I want a constant hail of keldrinite ore from the skies, j/k  :roll:
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 3, 2003 11:07 am CDT
how many gods are there right now? when the number reaches 100+ and lvl 1000 we should char clear

even though i voted against it
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Post by: Daywalker on June 3, 2003 11:44 am CDT
If there is a char clear, i was wondering will there be an update to server as far as wheapons/armor/items/zone or 2 lol

awwwwwww come on, lmao

if there was a clear yeah it would suk hate to see it,, and yes some would maybe stop playing, but i think at least 2 newbies join a month, real noobs
So at that rate the population is still good,

I wouldnt stop playing,

Also  maybe after clear, i wasnt here when  the badge problem started,
i was wondering will badges be coming back,,  :?:
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 3, 2003 11:49 am CDT
ppl were duping them and having unltd lck and could just run around and level without trying

and i think an admin was handing them out for every 10th remort you do go up to lvl 174 and max out ur stats and u get one

in the case of that i am owed about 6 or 7 badges of my liking
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Post by: Particle on June 3, 2003 12:12 pm CDT
I haven't cleared the characters since the incarnation of this server over two years ago.  That was one of my main points--I started this because GRD3 Smokin' cleared and I was pissed (and shorty after vanished--nobody played anymore).

After all this time, I think things would be a lot better if things were cleared and no transfers accepted.  I would probably put in the alternative leveling system that requires more exp for each new level like every other RPG does.  It would become harder to get to level 100 and thus cut down on remorts.  I would of course add more zones if I did, so things wouldn't be quite as boring or crowded.

I've been tempted to make a download required... I've got the resources to host such a patch now, it's just getting newbies into the mix that would worry me.  I think I'll make a small sister server with a download required and see how things pan out.  If we still get newbies then more power to it and maybe make it that way on the main server.  Or, I could have two servers, one with no required download and one with.  Who knows.  It might work to just slap the download URL onto the loading screen.
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Post by: remote-control on June 3, 2003 05:43 pm CDT
particle that would be a good idea to TRY a seperate server, but dont make it permanent, i think it would cut down the players, and some would play on one server, and others on the other server, it wouldnt be as fun

oh, and when do u plan on doing the clear char anyways?
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Post by: Particle on June 3, 2003 05:45 pm CDT
I never said that I was going to clear.
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Post by: remote-control on June 3, 2003 05:48 pm CDT
well.. if the majority of the people vote, and the yes wins.. would you?
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Post by: UnderGod on June 3, 2003 06:07 pm CDT
Ok.. This is the part where I go all out and thow in my two cents..

In my opinion, if the players leave if they get cleared. It only shows that they are only on the server to fight people lower than them. Which is pritty much ALL the gods.

Here are my facts that prove it.. This thread being #1.. Just about everyone that posted that they wouldn't play anymore if the server is cleared, only come on to play on their overpowered characters, and use them to torment other people.

In reality.. It will be doing more good than harm.. We might actually be free from the problems that are around for a while.

If you are a true TRPG player, you wouldn't mind a clear at all if you knew it was for the good of the server, and that you would have more to do after the clear.

I have thought about a clear since the imports first came, and cloud became remort 100...
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Post by: Darwin on June 3, 2003 06:18 pm CDT
Clear em all!  MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 3, 2003 06:50 pm CDT
I am personally looking forward to a clear, even thought I have yet to make God.  I was really looking forward to it, but if there is a server clear, it will be for the better because you can finally level and not have to worry about bored 1000 level Gods roaming around looking to bash you because they have nothing better to do.
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Post by: LastWish on June 3, 2003 07:17 pm CDT
Yea, it would also help me as a questmaster alot, and here is why:

I find myself having to make 2 seperate quests everytime I do one because of the difference in levels.  There will be like 3 or 4 overgods, and then the rest are 100 or below..  it's really annoying to write a quest script and then have to go back and change it every time I do a quest.  If we did it this way, the game would be a LOT less easy, and the levels would be more even so people getting PKed could fight back.

And as UG said, the True RPG players will stay because they know what an RPG is all about:  developing your character and having some fun at the same time.  

And razore, I already brought up the topic in the server a few times and most everyone agree'd with me.. except maybe a god or 2 that said they wouldn't play here if it cleared (both being level 1000 and known for PKing newbies and causing problems) so from my perspective, it would do the server a LOT more good than harm.
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Post by: Resident_Evil on June 3, 2003 07:18 pm CDT
i have to agree wit ubergod here
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Post by: eViL on June 3, 2003 09:11 pm CDT
see, the entire god issue comes down to this:  if the gods are really that bored that they have to go around bashing people for fun, just lock the assholes inside tables and #fw asshole #remort and end it all for them, maybe they will learn.  apparently as more and more gods came about, they also became more and more rock-headed.
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Post by: Pecker on June 3, 2003 09:42 pm CDT
I'm a god and I'm all for it. It'll be fun to level again. It was boring but I wasn't one of the "go around bashing anyone and everyone" kinda gods. So please don't say ALL are bad. Thanks!
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Post by: Newbie on June 3, 2003 09:47 pm CDT
Quote from: "Particle"
After all this time, I think things would be a lot better if things were cleared and no transfers accepted.  I would probably put in the alternative leveling system that requires more exp for each new level like every other RPG does.  It would become harder to get to level 100 and thus cut down on remorts.  I would of course add more zones if I did, so things wouldn't be quite as boring or crowded.

I've been tempted to make a download required... I've got the resources to host such a patch now, it's just getting newbies into the mix that would worry me.  I think I'll make a small sister server with a download required and see how things pan out.  If we still get newbies then more power to it and maybe make it that way on the main server.  Or, I could have two servers, one with no required download and one with.  Who knows.  It might work to just slap the download URL onto the loading screen.


Those are some of the best ideas I've heard in a long time.

And also, the ones who stay after the clear are most likely the hardcore players who are usually helpful, and not just out there to ruin other players fun.

[Edit] I voted yes.
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Post by: eViL on June 3, 2003 10:09 pm CDT
yea, now lets look at some examples.  we got shorty, the guy that won't die.  we got bub, wish he would commit suicide. yep, all the helpful players stick around right?
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 3, 2003 10:13 pm CDT
His point is, the people that are here for an RPG and a community will stay. The people that just want strong characters will leave. It's simple.
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Post by: Newbie on June 3, 2003 10:19 pm CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
His point is, the people that are here for an RPG and a community will stay. The people that just want strong characters will leave. It's simple.

Thank you Silv, that's what I meant..

Quote from: "eViL"
yea, now lets look at some examples.  we got shorty, the guy that won't die.  we got bub, wish he would commit suicide. yep, all the helpful players stick around right?


We haven't had a char clear yet, who are you to say that Shorty will stay after the clear.. he's been playing on characters that he's bummed off of other players.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 3, 2003 11:24 pm CDT
there has been talk of a clear since i came in

DO IT ALREADY!

ill stay i have no reason to leave
in fact it will give me something else to do besides whack off and chat lol
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Post by: eViL on June 3, 2003 11:25 pm CDT
Quote from: "Newbie"
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yea, now lets look at some examples.  we got shorty, the guy that won't die.  we got bub, wish he would commit suicide. yep, all the helpful players stick around right?

We haven't had a char clear yet, who are you to say that Shorty will stay after the clear.. he's been playing on characters that he's bummed off of other players.


yea... so true... now lets not forget shorty had every character of his cleared and yet he still plays... yea...
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 3, 2003 11:26 pm CDT
yeah

lol hed be the server punk for 2 days lol

then hed get cleared for pking any new ppl for their pick axe and potions
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Post by: Particle on June 4, 2003 01:12 am CDT
we're almost 3 to 1 for yes

That's looking very positive.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 4, 2003 01:37 am CDT
i voted no =D
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Post by: Alandar on June 4, 2003 02:05 am CDT
I'd play if there was a clear and new zones, need new zones real bad.  Maybe it would be possible for a check of files needed on connecting to the server and they would be auto downloaded.
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Post by: Darwin on June 4, 2003 02:52 am CDT
Orrr, make an auto download script for all users, so that the server would automatically download new content without them having to visit the site.  Of course, the script would require a download, but it would be hassle-free to get new content.
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Post by: Dasher on June 4, 2003 08:18 am CDT
shorty was whining yesterday about how if the server reset hes gone.
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Post by: Particle on June 4, 2003 11:01 am CDT
I honestly just wouldn't know how to make it autodownload without requiring an initial download for the client-side portion of the auto-downloader.
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Post by: eViL on June 4, 2003 11:29 am CDT
Duh.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 4, 2003 12:01 pm CDT
downloads are bad unless we are making new buildings and new buildings cause lag...

just make new zones with tribes buildings hell i did it and it worked out fine
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Post by: LastWish on June 4, 2003 12:13 pm CDT
*anxiously waits*  :)
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Post by: Particle on June 4, 2003 12:14 pm CDT
That kinda eliminates the the RPG'ish element...
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 4, 2003 01:26 pm CDT
I believe if you join a game that is running a map that you do not have, it downloads the map to your computer.  Maybe you can read through that code.
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Post by: Daywalker on June 4, 2003 01:33 pm CDT
Yeah ,

lol i have noticed since there has been talk about a clear alomost alll gods have been remorting ,, I think i have only killed like 3 ppl out of 104 rls,

afkers mostly,  i say we get this clear thing over with lol,

 :shock:
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on June 4, 2003 01:39 pm CDT
This is starting to sould like a GREAT idea!!!

CLEAR!
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Post by: Particle on June 4, 2003 01:41 pm CDT
Funny really.  This response is about the opposite of what would have happened oh so long ago.
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Post by: eViL on June 4, 2003 01:46 pm CDT
not really particle.  and about the map download code, i will just flat out say this right now: you can't look through something that is not within a readable file.
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Post by: Newbie on June 4, 2003 04:38 pm CDT
Quote from: "eViL"
Quote from: "Newbie"
Quote from: "eViL"
yea, now lets look at some examples.  we got shorty, the guy that won't die.  we got bub, wish he would commit suicide. yep, all the helpful players stick around right?

We haven't had a char clear yet, who are you to say that Shorty will stay after the clear.. he's been playing on characters that he's bummed off of other players.

yea... so true... now lets not forget shorty had every character of his cleared and yet he still plays... yea...


What the hell are you talking about? He plays on his Strongbad character almost every day, which was given to him by Icer.
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Post by: LastWish on June 4, 2003 06:20 pm CDT
Let's start a RIOT!  Clear!  Clear!  Clear!
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Post by: Razore on June 4, 2003 06:23 pm CDT
...No, Strongbad was given to Firewire
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Post by: Newbie on June 4, 2003 07:11 pm CDT
Quote from: "Razore"
...No, Strongbad was given to Firewire


No, he wasn't.  Icer lives in my neighborhood, he told me that he gave his Strongbad char to Shorty.

If you want to know the real truth, Firewire gave his character to Strongbad/Shorty to level it for a few remorts since he was going to be away for a while, but now it's back in the original Firewire's hands (I think).

But who gives a crap, we need a clear.
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Post by: eViL on June 4, 2003 08:29 pm CDT
Quote from: "Newbie"
Quote from: "eViL"
Quote from: "Newbie"
Quote from: "eViL"
yea, now lets look at some examples.  we got shorty, the guy that won't die.  we got bub, wish he would commit suicide. yep, all the helpful players stick around right?

We haven't had a char clear yet, who are you to say that Shorty will stay after the clear.. he's been playing on characters that he's bummed off of other players.

yea... so true... now lets not forget shorty had every character of his cleared and yet he still plays... yea...

What the hell are you talking about? He plays on his Strongbad character almost every day, which was given to him by Icer.


umm, no, the other day, he was on demonization, and i thought i saw dreamer on also a while back.  he still uses the names.

p.s. - lol, newbie, evil, newbie, evil =D  too many quotes between 2 people
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 4, 2003 08:32 pm CDT
Hmm, Newbie eViL, Newbie eViL; see a pattern developing here.
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Post by: Newbie on June 4, 2003 09:45 pm CDT
Dreamer was also given to him.

Sigh.. I wouldn't doubt it if Demonization was also given to him.
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Post by: eViL on June 4, 2003 09:53 pm CDT
no, he made demonization, i was there the night he created it.
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Post by: Darwin on June 4, 2003 09:54 pm CDT
Nah, he made demonization.
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Post by: Newbie on June 4, 2003 10:25 pm CDT
I don't need two people telling me, gah.. So, still, two out of three of the characters mentioned are c hars that he bummed off of other players.

Back to the original arguement, how can you say Shorty would stick around after a character clear, we've never had one. 0_o
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Post by: Darwin on June 4, 2003 10:27 pm CDT
eViL and I made that post at around the same time.  I probably would have been first but my bandwidth today, well, its like:

Yesterday:  (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Today:  ((((((()))))))
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Post by: Newbie on June 4, 2003 10:30 pm CDT
Quote from: "Darwin"
I probably would have been first but my bandwidth today, well, its like:

Yesterday:  (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Today:  ((((((()))))))


I just wish I could get off of these AOL hours, it's been almost one month and Earthlink has yet to get out here and fix our freaking cable, I am so pissed.

You wouldn't believe how many times I've called and cursed at the customer service people.
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 5, 2003 01:32 am CDT
Quote from: "Darwin"
eViL and I made that post at around the same time.  I probably would have been first but my bandwidth today, well, its like:

Yesterday:  (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Today:  ((((((()))))))


(http://http://pages.sbcglobal.net/johnpell/Images2/penis.JPG)
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Post by: UnderGod on June 5, 2003 01:44 am CDT
And I downloaded at 2 megabytes per second before..
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Post by: Dasher on June 5, 2003 02:34 am CDT
shorty gave away demonization.
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Post by: Horny Mall Santa on June 5, 2003 03:02 am CDT
:D
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Post by: Ziros Suntol on June 5, 2003 03:44 am CDT
well.. it is now 2:1 in favor of clear :-p
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Post by: Xanth on June 5, 2003 09:41 am CDT
I would hate to see a clear, except for a few people i can think of.
Many of the "gods" that I associate with are good examples of self control and dedication.  Of course there are those who are just forking jerks.

P.S.  Shorty/Strongbad/Whoeverthehellyouare I will jail your ass again if you continue the racist/Particle bashing crap. (PEROID)

Thanks and have a nice day.
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Post by: eViL on June 5, 2003 10:34 am CDT
well, i am now rl 400 lvl 1001 =D.  we shall see who likes to misbehave =) *wonders when kenshin will be on next*.
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Post by: Particle on June 5, 2003 10:58 am CDT
BTW, about 1/3 of the "No" votes are from fake accounts.  ;)

I think I'm gunna clear.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 5, 2003 11:10 am CDT
DO IT

today at 6pm pacific

lol

muahahahahahahahaha
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Post by: itssinus on June 5, 2003 11:19 am CDT
how bout you ungod the char files cut their remort lvls by half mabe 3/4

And get rid of dusting to infinity.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 5, 2003 11:46 am CDT
how bout we go KABOOM!!! and destroy all the characters and start over
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Post by: LastWish on June 5, 2003 12:18 pm CDT
I figured the nos were from fake accounts..  the NO has been going up steadily since the initial voting..
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Post by: Xanth on June 5, 2003 12:24 pm CDT
Im a fake account!
Oh.. wait..
Never mind  :roll:
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Post by: Purple-HaZe on June 5, 2003 12:44 pm CDT
Since everyone wants a server clear... I guess I'll change my mind and go with the flow.
CLEAR IT ALL!
Also, if it is getting cleared, could it please be cleared as soon as possible so we can all start over sooner.
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Post by: UnderGod on June 5, 2003 12:49 pm CDT
The sooner it is cleared, the less you have to come back to.
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Post by: Newbie on June 5, 2003 01:09 pm CDT
I'm excited about the character clear and the new EXP system. Can't wait for it to happen..  :)
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Post by: Particle on June 5, 2003 01:18 pm CDT
There was a different EXP system for PCRPG4, but I think I'm going to scrap that one in favor of one I thought of last night.  Instead of multiplying the EXP each time by like 1.035 or something, level 1 will be 200 or maybe 250 exp.  Each level will just add 100exp.  This will help take the burden of the lower levels and make higher levels more complicated.

The formula I came up with is this:
200+([n-1]*100)

And then I realized I was stupid because there was an obvious one that requires less processing:
100+(n*100)

No loops on this one boys and girls.  This shouldn't lag at all.
Level 1 = 200exp
Level 5 = 600exp
Level 10 = 1100exp
Level 25 = 2600exp
Level 50 = 5100exp
Level 75 = 7600exp
Level 100 = 10100exp

Pretty simple and it'll be a good curve.  Talk about cutting down on remorts.  Too bad eViL never finished that item system... I could REALLY use that about now since more weapons and armor would help.  There'll need to be more items for lower levels without sacrificing the items for higher levels.
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Post by: Newbie on June 5, 2003 01:21 pm CDT
Awwwesome.. One thing though, we're really gonna need some new dungeons and towns. >_<

I could help map if you need me to, I have some pretty cool dungeon ideas I think players might like.
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Post by: eViL on June 5, 2003 01:28 pm CDT
oh, i did finish it, its just not the most stable thing i have ever created, so i never really told anyone.  TRPG has too much to worry about in weapons and various variables, whereas in my MD mod i am using it in, there is very little to worry about, no atk, def, mdef, .....

the system is finished, just highly unstable when 10 or more people are using it.  its fine for about 5-8 people, but the mass variables take their toll even then...

and besides, whats the point in me giving out the item system?  i give it to particle, particle puts it in the server, server gets completely cleared, and i never come back because i have better things to do that try to get back to where i am, i really get a lot of use from it...
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Post by: Particle on June 5, 2003 01:32 pm CDT
The point is to do things for others.  Not everybody feels that way though, and that's their right.

Anyway, I'm in a real pinch for weapons and junk then.  Staying at the same level with the same few weapons might tend to get a little boring.
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Post by: eViL on June 5, 2003 01:38 pm CDT
Quote from: "Neoz"
eViL= mean mean man
Evil_inc = Niiiccceee person

and
Thread. (http://http://www.pcrpg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=779&start=0)

anything else particle?
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 5, 2003 01:46 pm CDT
And who is Neoz?

You couldn't possibly let them get to you.  

From all the forum regulars and mature people that play, we want you to stay and help.
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Post by: eViL on June 5, 2003 01:47 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jason_Xero"
And who is Neoz?

You couldn't possibly let them get to you.  

From all the forum regulars and mature people that play, we want you to stay and help.


yea, lots of peope have said malarkey like that jason, heres the real challenge, PROVE IT.
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 5, 2003 01:49 pm CDT
Well I for one want you to stay and help with the server.  I agree with your thoughts on what needs to be done with the server.  I can not speak for them, but I may be able to speak on Darwin and Pecker's behalf when I said that.

And when I said forum regulars, I meant clicking on Memberlist and arrange by Top Ten posters.
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Post by: Seasomeor on June 5, 2003 02:57 pm CDT
ahhh burn... I suppose that's what you were trying to do to me....

it's the gods that won't come back, because they won't have their oversized characters and can't pick on lowbies...

the gods that I associate with don't go around bashing everyone they seen... and besides, there are more non gods that go around doing that...

and the reason that most gods would leave and that most non gods vote to clear... is simple, the non-gods want to get ahead of the gods... the gods don't want their characters to be cleared, well because they spent hours, hundred of hours to get to their point... and I think as several people said already in this post.... that a rpg is to build ones character and such and such... well they've and I have spent days building our characters... yeah, I do think it would be good to clear for the whole rpg community, but what I said before was like reduce everything to 1/10 of their character, it gives the ones who spent years compensation for what they've done

-edit-

I agree something has to be done, and the yes votes are just low players who spent less time on the server than probably every no...


oh yeah, i'm a fake vote too  :shock:
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 5, 2003 04:09 pm CDT
i voted yes... ive been around longer then most of u :P (atleast on this server)

then again i don't play much anymore... lol
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Post by: Darwin on June 5, 2003 04:19 pm CDT
You know, I might come back after a clear.  It would be interesting seeing all the cleared chars rush for kills in the gobs den.  In fact, I bet it would be every man for himself, and PKing for exp would be rampant in the first hour  :twisted:


I just want a variation in gameplay, where I dont sit in one spot with autoswing on, playing a gameboy game while I wait for my character to reach level 50.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 5, 2003 04:49 pm CDT
That's part of the reason that I refuse to switch to Slashing for leveling. Damned monotony...
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Post by: Newbie on June 5, 2003 05:09 pm CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
That's part of the reason that I refuse to switch to Slashing for leveling. Damned monotony...


When Particle clears the chars, he needs to have the bots use higher level bludge and pierce weapons.

I'm tired of picking up claymores and battleaxes.
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 05:15 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
I'd leave if there was a char clearing.


'nuff said

CLEAR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:-). These are only my IDEAS, not trying to boss your or nothin.I got alot new ideas for the server if you got time to listen or want ot hear them.and unlike others i dont need anything in return if you use my ideas

Quote from: "Razore"
Hey i dont think its that fair cause of 20 people voting, why dont you get on the server and ask the other more than half the population

razore you newb alot more people come to the forums than people who play onthe server....most of the gods dont play anymore they just come to the forums and THIS is really affecting them.

Quote from: "UnderGod"
Ok.. This is the part where I go all out and thow in my two cents..

In my opinion, if the players leave if they get cleared. It only shows that they are only on the server to fight people lower than them. Which is pritty much ALL the gods.

Here are my facts that prove it.. This thread being #1.. Just about everyone that posted that they wouldn't play anymore if the server is cleared, only come on to play on their overpowered characters, and use them to torment other people.

In reality.. It will be doing more good than harm.. We might actually be free from the problems that are around for a while.

If you are a true TRPG player, you wouldn't mind a clear at all if you knew it was for the good of the server, and that you would have more to do after the clear.

I have thought about a clear since the imports first came, and cloud became remort 100...

i agree with that 100%

Quote from: "Particle"
I honestly just wouldn't know how to make it autodownload without requiring an initial download for the client-side portion of the auto-downloader.

just make it a ftp download

Quote from: "Particle"

The formula I came up with is this:
200+([n-1]*100)

And then I realized I was stupid because there was an obvious one that requires less processing:
100+(n*100)

No loops on this one boys and girls.  This shouldn't lag at all.
Level 1 = 200exp
Level 5 = 600exp
Level 10 = 1100exp
Level 25 = 2600exp
Level 50 = 5100exp
Level 75 = 7600exp
Level 100 = 10100exp

Pretty simple and it'll be a good curve.  Talk about cutting down on remorts.  Too bad eViL never finished that item system... I could REALLY use that about now since more weapons and armor would help.  There'll need to be more items for lower levels without sacrificing the items for higher levels.


What about this...remember titans mod? we can use that with a few modifications

Quote from: "eViL"
Quote from: "Neoz"
eViL= mean mean man
Evil_inc = Niiiccceee person
and
Thread. (http://http://www.pcrpg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=779&start=0)

anything else particle?


Sorry neo your wrong its like this

eViL-Nice person
EVIL_INC-nice person also

i like em both, though eViL can act 2faced and INC gets anooying..they both have there up's and down's
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Post by: Darwin on June 5, 2003 05:17 pm CDT
Or, a PvP type place.
Title: new zone
Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 05:20 pm CDT
How about making a zone for the gods to keep them out of the way. And see how that works and if it dont then see about the clear characters.
I know i would be pissed if i spent over a year on a character to get it to a god. and then to get it cleared. I vote for a new zone for the gods
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Post by: Particle on June 5, 2003 05:45 pm CDT
Dark, you seem to have missed the entire meaning behind my post.  If you'd have read the entire thread you'd know I am trying to find the most convenient way of moving the files to the players and a website is my least.
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 5, 2003 05:50 pm CDT
Doubly doubly!
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Post by: eViL on June 5, 2003 05:50 pm CDT
i could give particle a way to make an auto-downloader.
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 06:00 pm CDT
Quote from: "Particle"
Dark, you seem to have missed the entire meaning behind my post.  If you'd have read the entire thread you'd know I am trying to find the most convenient way of moving the files to the players and a website is my least.


You trying to make it more convenient  for us or you? if its for us then you try to hard we can put forth a effort also you know. if its for you...o my bad ithought that wouldnt take alot to do..
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 5, 2003 06:13 pm CDT
I didn't understand a single thing you just said, nor would I really care.  From what I could make out, just let Part do his own thing,  that would just piss me off and not want to do anything for people like you.
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Post by: Neoz on June 5, 2003 06:17 pm CDT
Quote from: "eViL"
Quote from: "Neoz"
eViL= mean mean man
Evil_inc = Niiiccceee person

and
Thread. (http://http://www.pcrpg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=779&start=0)

Lemme clear something reason why i posted that was when i first started playing particles server it was fun only ass was chaos and malarkey but then like the first time you came on I never even met you before or anything you just start threatening me and malarkey and how on the server you'd say "Oh lemme see if your on my hitlist Neoz" malarkey like that being a total prick to me the only nice people that were on the server were Daywalker and Evil_inc and Inc just kept telling me not to worry about it cuz theres nothin i can do about it

so dont try and make me look bad
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 06:23 pm CDT
Quote from: "Neoz"

you just start threatening me and shizzle and how on the server you'd say "Oh lemme see if your on my hitlist Neoz"


.........in that case everyone is mean in there own way
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Post by: Panther-DD on June 5, 2003 06:29 pm CDT
ok im quiet its my first post because its such a messed up topic i dont think that anyone should be cleared i have worked on my chr for 3 years now and i am only rl 30 i play for the fun and i may be low rl but i spend my time having fun and helping players this game is a hobbie and any hobbiest will tell you that if you take there hobbie away from them they die of bordom whitch is what i think the gods have i belive making a place for gods with supper powerful bots would be the best idea that is what should have been done a game should expand with the times not a quick fix like erasing all of the hard earned chrs that have been playing for years....thanx for reading my post  the Panther
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Post by: Razore on June 5, 2003 06:32 pm CDT
Dark, I think your mistaken, Im not a newb, YOur basically the biggest newb here except....*looks at member list* Neoz, Sinus, Nurosaki and a few others
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 06:51 pm CDT
Quote from: "Razore"
Dark, I think your mistaken, Im not a newb, YOur basically the biggest newb here except....*looks at member list* Neoz, Sinus, Nurosaki and a few others















i dont care who is a newb hehe. i still think there should be a zone for gods
to keep them out of trouble
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 06:56 pm CDT
Quote from: "Razore"
Dark, I think your mistaken, Im not a newb, YOur basically the biggest newb here except....*looks at member list* Neoz, Sinus, Nurosaki and a few others

whats your definition of "newb"? it might differ from mine

Quote from: "Jason_Xero"
I didn't understand a single thing you just said, nor would I really care.  From what I could make out, just let Part do his own thing,  that would just piss me off and not want to do anything for people like you.



i dont think part would mind a few suggestions. wtf are you talkin about "that would just piss me off and not want to do anything for people like you" what exactly is a person like me?
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Post by: Razore on June 5, 2003 07:03 pm CDT
A dumbass
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Post by: Xaiir on June 5, 2003 07:04 pm CDT
Yes Clear!!!
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 07:05 pm CDT
Quote from: "Razore"
A dumbass


LOL, ic well ok then i will be the most "dumb ass"ed person here besides the few others you listed   :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
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Post by: Particle on June 5, 2003 07:06 pm CDT
Three years?  My server hasn't even been up that long... so unless you are a transfer, that's impossible.

Anyway, what is this Titan's mod you speak of and what about it would be useful?
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Post by: UnderGod on June 5, 2003 07:06 pm CDT
Dark he was talking about making an auto download for clients so he could make a client-side mod..

Read the forking thread before you post.
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 07:09 pm CDT
Quote from: "Particle"
Three years?  My server hasn't even been up that long... so unless you are a transfer, that's impossible.

Anyway, what is this Titan's mod you speak of and what about it would be useful?



i heard some rumors that eViL presented it to you but you didnt want to use all the stuff it had, cause you wanted your rpg to be diffrent. the rumors might be false but i heard eViL had the OLD titan mod stuff somewhere and im not sure but therem ight be new weapons /zones and stuff...idk ask eViL.

Not to sound rude or anything jusrt somethnig i heard about along the grape vine
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Post by: LastWish on June 5, 2003 07:09 pm CDT
A new zone for the gods wont help at all..  there's only so much you can do with a zone that hasn't already been done..
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 07:11 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
A new zone for the gods wont help at all..  there's only so much you can do with a zone that hasn't already been done..


i was thinking a playground for the gods...

*edit*

thats where you would be great at last like an automated quest type opstical course
 something that would clallenge not there character but the person using the character
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Post by: LastWish on June 5, 2003 07:17 pm CDT
With bots to kill?  Boorrinng..  theres really nothing new you can do to make it fun for gods..  they have the best skill, can use the best weapons, etc...  it just gets boring when your that high o_O

I can do that but I'll have to have like 12 versions of it to suit everyones level..  thats why a clear would be good :)
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Post by: Razore on June 5, 2003 07:32 pm CDT
ahhhhh, do the arena again, but have it make bots that match your level and eq
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 5, 2003 07:35 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
it just gets boring when your that high o_O


Nothing is boring when you're 'that' high!
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 07:38 pm CDT
who has partyed with a god ??? and has the god stole nearly all the exp ??
hence thats why there needs to be another zone or 2 zones so that they are out of the way but there to help others if they need it ie: newbs
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Post by: Particle on June 5, 2003 08:12 pm CDT
Well, I'm leaning toward a small download required, stating that in the server name and on the loading message so people can see where to go download.  If things don't work out, I can always go back to a no DL version.  A clear is going to happen, probably this weekend.  The new leveling system will also be in place.
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Post by: itssinus on June 5, 2003 08:33 pm CDT
WAIT before you char clear don't clear the bank accounts out or the storages.

Or lets us keep our storages and take away our money

I am a rml  5 going on 6 and what really sucks is that i'm the lowbie that you are all talking about, just pick good people to be peacekeepers.

I for one don't wanna loose my char i am just to the point where its getting slightlyeasier.

If it weren't for that asshole shorty i would never get pk'd ok mabe dritz purplehaze and some other people but its not BAD like shorty.
You need more adminage, hell i could admin :) be bad and get jailed, but by all means don't whimp out your server, it took me 3 months to get to rml, i don't play ALLLLLL the time mabe once a day, and hell i dun wanna do all that malarkey over again, cause guess what??????
Your gonna have the same probs all over again anyway.
There are gonna be gangs, robberies LARGE muggings, the works.

Close down dust
you need a graveyard with zombies outside of keldrin i luv teh zombies
Cut gods by 3/4 of their rml

For the lowbies: No one said it would be easy.
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Post by: Daywalker on June 5, 2003 08:36 pm CDT
Part if ya do the clear, and i have a feeling you are or there would be no vote,    :roll:
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 08:40 pm CDT
Quote from: "Daywalker"
Part if ya do the clear, and i have a feeling you are or there would be no vote,    :roll:



i agree day the gods should get something they spent enough time in the server to get to where they are and deserve a little something
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Post by: kunundra on June 5, 2003 08:50 pm CDT
Weewee4Chocha!
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 08:53 pm CDT
Quote from: "kunundra"
Hey everyone, personally i really dont want my char to be cleared, ive grown emotionally attached, I know Im only RL2 and that sounds like a n00b, but still.  Could we clear everyone above RL5 or something???


NO
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Post by: Darwin on June 5, 2003 08:55 pm CDT
Pfft!  And let nubs like you be ahead by a few remorts?  Get real.
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 08:57 pm CDT
Quote from: "Darwin"
Pfft!  And let nubs like you be ahead by a few remorts?  Get real.



If anything the gods should be given some rl for there efforts of becoming a god
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Post by: Panther-DD on June 5, 2003 09:00 pm CDT
ok i apolojize part i may have over shot a little 2 2 1/2 years i know i have been here a hellofa long time since the beginning pretty much i am no transfer draak and ozzy know me well i just thaught my post might sway your desition into not clearing some of the nicer people who have worked hard on there chr...thanx again for reading my post....the Panther
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Post by: Panther-DD on June 5, 2003 09:08 pm CDT
i was also wandering what are the crack head, heroin hero, and columbian drug lord, titles all about is that how many posts you have done?

quote from smeeeee on boulders gate
"coooo"
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Post by: eViL on June 5, 2003 09:11 pm CDT
well, here is my 2 cents in all this BS.  what you peope don't realize is that in the end, a badge is NOT even close to comparable for losing a god.  people spent years trying to get to god, and then when they do, they lose everything, a badge or some other item is in no way even worth having unless it gives you like 2 remorts for every 1 you do.  giving someone some stupid item is like saying "here ya go, you just got cleared, here is an extra 10 coins."  get the picture?
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 09:16 pm CDT
Quote from: "eViL"
well, here is my 2 cents in all this BS.  what you peope don't realize is that in the end, a badge is NOT even close to comparable for losing a god.  people spent years trying to get to god, and then when they do, they lose everything, a badge or some other item is in no way even worth having unless it gives you like 2 remorts for every 1 you do.  giving someone some stupid item is like saying "here ya go, you just got cleared, here is an extra 10 coins."  get the picture?


ok what should the gods get then???
Title: The thing is....
Post by: kunundra on June 5, 2003 09:17 pm CDT
buttwanggopeepoo!
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 09:20 pm CDT
they only lisen if you have something intresting to say
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Post by: Razore on June 5, 2003 09:21 pm CDT
no they wont kun, all the gods will leave, cause they spent hard work working for god
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 09:25 pm CDT
well if we do get cleared the gods need something we spent enough time getting there and for the gods that are rl 200 300 +
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 09:25 pm CDT
Quote from: "itssinus"
WAIT before you char clear don't clear the bank accounts out or the storages.

Or lets us keep our storages and take away our money

I am a rml  5 going on 6 and what really sucks is that i'm the lowbie that you are all talking about, just pick good people to be peacekeepers.

I for one don't wanna loose my char i am just to the point where its getting slightlyeasier.

If it weren't for that asshole shorty i would never get pk'd ok mabe dritz purplehaze and some other people but its not BAD like shorty.
You need more adminage, hell i could admin :D half the gods who sayed "o im gonna quit if this clear happens" dont really need to be here anyways. have you no LOYALTY?
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 5, 2003 09:26 pm CDT
Quote from: "mad"
ok what should the gods get then???

Nothing. The point is, no matter which way we go, there is going to be consequences. Don't you guys see that? There is no perfect way out of here. Grumble all you want, but there is no way to please everybody.

Sure, gods probably do feel a bit of resentment over losing all of their time, but face it. If all they want is a strong character to have whenever they want to dick around, then we don't want them here. If they are interested in TribesRPG, then they'll stay.

Oh, and kunundra... I really felt like unsavory woman-slapping you when I read your post.

Quote from: "kunundra"
Hey everyone, personally i really dont want my char to be cleared, ive grown emotionally attached, I know Im only RL2 and that sounds like a n00b, but still. Could we clear everyone above RL5 or something???


How can one person be that stupid!? GAAHH!! I can't believe how much this guy is pissing me off. Personally, you don't want your character cleared? What the hell, do you think that people who "don't want to" won't get cleared? And why the fork do you think lowbies should be granted compensation, when the gods have been here for years and get nothing?

Man, I feel like killing this guy.
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Post by: eViL on June 5, 2003 09:33 pm CDT
darkechoes, your opinion doesn't matter in the conversation, you have proven yourself not worthy.  it will be funny watching all the assholes flock back into the server just to screw with people's lvl'ing for the first few weeks.
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 09:34 pm CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
Oh, and kunundra... I really felt like unsavory woman-slapping you when I read your post.

Quote from: "kunundra"
Hey everyone, personally i really dont want my char to be cleared, ive grown emotionally attached, I know Im only RL2 and that sounds like a n00b, but still. Could we clear everyone above RL5 or something???

How can one person be that stupid!? GAAHH!! I can't believe how much this guy is pissing me off. Personally, you don't want your character cleared? What the hell, do you think that people who "don't want to" won't get cleared? And why the fork do you think lowbies should be granted compensation, when the gods have been here for years and get nothing?

Man, I feel like killing this guy.

Kun the saddest part about this is that i HATE silv but now, i acctually like him for a second for saying what im 2 nice to say

*edit*
ok moments over silv i hate you again ;-)

*edit again*
Quote from: "eViL"
darkechoes, your opinion doesn't matter in the conversation, you have proven yourself not worthy.  it will be funny watching all the assholes flock back into the server just to screw with people's lvl'ing for the first few weeks.


ROTFLAMO! im not worthy? Mr. "oh im not getting my way let me threaten to hack something mwahahahaha"

Lol eViL i might have alot of people who dont like me here but you out number my hatred 10-1
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Post by: Jonah on June 5, 2003 09:38 pm CDT
Silv is the coolest! He's the man! w00t!


Yeeeeahhh... to stay on topic... don't clear the chars!

Please?
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Post by: mad on June 5, 2003 09:40 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
Silv is the coolest! He's the man! w00t!


Yeeeeahhh... to stay on topic... don't clear the chars!

Please?


















i think im still having a NIGHTMARE
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Post by: Jonah on June 5, 2003 09:41 pm CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
Quote
Sure, gods probably do feel a bit of resentment over losing all of their time, but face it. If all they want is a strong character to have whenever they want to dick around, then we don't want them here.



Ouch... that hurts  :(  Seriously
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 09:41 pm CDT
Quote from: "Particle"
A clear     is [/size] going to happen
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 5, 2003 09:43 pm CDT
just do it already
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 5, 2003 09:50 pm CDT
Silvanoshei's Book of Vocabulary, page 176

dick around
to annoy or otherwise inhibit other players' actions, leveling, or overall playing
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 5, 2003 10:16 pm CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
Silvanoshei's Book of Vocabulary


How much would it run for one of those?
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 5, 2003 10:19 pm CDT
prolly $17.50
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 5, 2003 10:19 pm CDT
How much do you want to pay?  8)
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Post by: Darwin on June 5, 2003 10:35 pm CDT
*holds up two cents*

Clear em all!
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 5, 2003 11:07 pm CDT
*holds up 3 cents*
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Post by: Particle on June 5, 2003 11:23 pm CDT
Wow you guys get defensive.  Anyway, I just want to make an update.  I'm not clearing until I get some prefabs made and edit the map some.  That and a new leveling system and then we're set.  I've been making the new Centurian Highhold tonight... funny part is I'm just starting and it's almost 1MB for the highest LOD.
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Post by: Seasomeor on June 5, 2003 11:35 pm CDT
Don't clear! lol too late...
can I get my character then? or perhaps can you save it somewhere, because other servers would rather recieve from the admin than the player..

hmmmmmmm


I guess a character clear won't be too bad.. I'll just level up to 174... err wait, with the new leveling system, I would have remorted how many times before I could get there?
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Post by: Post Master on June 5, 2003 11:57 pm CDT
so there is still no exact date when it will be done, you think it will be done this weekend?
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Post by: UnderGod on June 6, 2003 01:42 am CDT
eViL, that won't happen. I assure you that.

You will have at least a couple weeks before the clear, so do whatever.

You people honestly have no clue at all how much thought Particle had to give to consider a clear. You have no clue the pain he will go through when he hits that delete button. How much he actually cares. How much money he pulls out of his own damn pocket to give you guys another reason to not have a life.

Really man.. It is for the good.

Now that there will be a client-side patch.. You can expect things you couldn't imagine before.. Well considering today's drugs, I take that back.
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Post by: Particle on June 6, 2003 01:47 am CDT
The thought of a client-side download still makes me cringe, but we need it.
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Post by: Post Master on June 6, 2003 02:32 am CDT
what's the client side patch for? so we can download updates automatically or something
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Post by: Particle on June 6, 2003 02:44 am CDT
No, to add new prefabs.
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Post by: Hack-N-Slash on June 6, 2003 09:52 am CDT
is it me or is someone trying to hijack the votes? It's to my knowledge that most of us want a clear

I'd really like the clear to come when PCRPG 4  is finished. So that I have a reason to come back and play
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 6, 2003 09:55 am CDT
As Particle said, a lot of the 'no' votes are from fake accounts.

To the fake account makers... Give it up. Particle can check who voted for which option, so your peabrained attempts at saving you character are useless. I just had to say that. I'm sick of watching the 'no' side steadily rise.
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Post by: Xanth on June 6, 2003 10:07 am CDT
Is there a point in arguing the clear?
It would seem that Particle has made up his mind.
I am a RL 105 and 100% legit and I dont go PK'ing newbies.
Its sad really... I guess Im a bit un-nerved because I finally realize how much time ive wasted on getting my char as high as it is.

Particle:  How about adding a little Necromancy spell or two?
   I like a little "Hex" or "Curse" or "Bane" now and then  :wink:
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 6, 2003 11:13 am CDT
blind=red screen??
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Post by: LastWish on June 6, 2003 12:07 pm CDT
mmm new prefabs are gooood..
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Post by: Newbie on June 6, 2003 02:12 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
mmm new prefabs are gooood..


Yes, yes.  :D


A blind spell would be awesome, you could use it during a duel to paralyze them, and then move in on the offensive.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 6, 2003 03:14 pm CDT
I remember going into Annihilation with a smurf, and just for fun I would put Blast Walls everywhere... So one of the admins "blinded" me. It was exactly like drowning in the river at full 100HP loss, except no damage was taken and it was permanent. I'm sure that a spell could be created just like that.
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Post by: Post Master on June 6, 2003 03:59 pm CDT
what's prefab  :(
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Post by: Resident_Evil on June 6, 2003 04:11 pm CDT
Quote from: "Post Master"
what's prefab  :(


yea me 2, is the clear gonna happen this weekend cause im hearing it is
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Post by: Post Master on June 6, 2003 04:13 pm CDT
that's what i want to know. i hear it's going to happen this weekend too. ok tell me this would it be better to just explore around and get use to the map or continue leveling, cause i'm only level 11 rl 0 so it wouldn't matter to me.
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Post by: Particle on June 6, 2003 04:24 pm CDT
This weekend?  Probably not.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 6, 2003 04:27 pm CDT
Quote from: "Particle"
A clear is going to happen, probably this weekend.


That's why they thought this weekend.
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Post by: Particle on June 6, 2003 04:28 pm CDT
Understandable, but I said probably for a reason.

Turned out I wanted to make some prefabs so it's a probably not.
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Post by: Post Master on June 6, 2003 04:31 pm CDT
but it will happen sooner or later so i will explore the level until the reset. i need a suggestion for a character, should i go cleric and be able to heal myself or should i go ranger and sleep in the unknown. then it comes to how i should divide my sp. this is such a hard process.
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 6, 2003 04:39 pm CDT
Quote from: "Newbie"
Quote from: "LastWish"
mmm new prefabs are gooood..

Yes, yes.  :P

too even out the strength of bash
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Post by: Newbie on June 6, 2003 04:42 pm CDT
Quote from: "Resident_Evil"
Quote from: "Post Master"
what's prefab  :(

yea me 2, is the clear gonna happen this weekend cause im hearing it is


Prefabs are models. For example Keldrin Town, and Stronghold are prefabs.. the more prefabs the more new stuff!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 6, 2003 05:05 pm CDT
Quote from: "Newbie"
Quote from: "Resident_Evil"
Quote from: "Post Master"
what's prefab  :(

yea me 2, is the clear gonna happen this weekend cause im hearing it is

Prefabs are models. For example Keldrin Town, and Stronghold are prefabs.. the more prefabs the more new stuff!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)


not saying your wrong but, the more detailed the prefabs the more lag.
is that correct?
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 6, 2003 05:07 pm CDT
It's more size than detail. Like those huge forking bridges leading up to Centuria that chop my FPS in half.
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Post by: mad on June 6, 2003 05:08 pm CDT
Quote from: "DaRkEcHoEs"
Quote from: "Newbie"
Quote from: "Resident_Evil"
Quote from: "Post Master"
what's prefab  :(

yea me 2, is the clear gonna happen this weekend cause im hearing it is

Prefabs are models. For example Keldrin Town, and Stronghold are prefabs.. the more prefabs the more new stuff!

(Correct me if I'm wrong)

not saying your wrong but, the more detailed the prefabs the more lag.
is that correct?



yes but is he not cutting down the lag by the new lvling system?
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Post by: Newbie on June 6, 2003 05:08 pm CDT
Yeah, what he said.. it all depends.
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 6, 2003 05:41 pm CDT
Well if you people would get a new video card at least once every 5 years it would run a lot better.
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Post by: DaRkEcHoEs on June 6, 2003 05:48 pm CDT
i cant afford one ;-)
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Post by: Jason_Xero on June 6, 2003 06:18 pm CDT
In 5 years you can't save up 100$ ?  You will have financial problems in the future I forsee...
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Post by: Particle on June 6, 2003 06:28 pm CDT
I never had any sort of problem with those bridges, but I designed it on a 1.2GHz Thunderbird with 512MB of RAM and a GF3 Ti200.  That's pretty old junk, actually.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 6, 2003 07:10 pm CDT
do you have an old comp that i can have particle?
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Post by: UnderGod on June 6, 2003 08:04 pm CDT
It isn't how much detail..

It is how many polys.

However, it just happens to be that the more polys, the better it could look.

Textures are important though.. You have to realize that.

All the prefab is, is an object with no color at all. THe textures that you put on the prefab are what makes it look good..

I'm designing a parry system for TRPG.. It is looking good right now. Just hard to balance it properly.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 6, 2003 08:19 pm CDT
parry system???
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Post by: LastWish on June 6, 2003 08:29 pm CDT
Parrying is blocking someone with your weapon (usually takes place of your attack swing, so you have to wait the alloted time before your next swing)
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 6, 2003 09:01 pm CDT
lol that would be cool

i was thinkin thrust parry
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Post by: UnderGod on June 6, 2003 09:54 pm CDT
Yeah, the basic concept of parry is when you use your sword to block someone elses.

However, I have seen it attempted by y0shi where you swing as your enemy swings.. With Tribes' netcode, this is almost impossible ot pull off.

My system isa bit different..

You must have a 1-handed weapon, and you must also have a parrying weapon.. like a rapier/main gauche combo.

It is based off the fact that it greatly increases your dodging, while you take 2-3 times as muxh damage if you get hit.. Also, you hit 2-3 times more often while in parry mode..

The more mosters you have on you at 1 time, the more of a chance you have of getting hit..

It is a bit more complicated than that, but that is the basic idea.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 6, 2003 10:04 pm CDT
wouldnt that cause a malarkeyload of lag?
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Post by: UnderGod on June 6, 2003 10:08 pm CDT
Only if it is made by someone who has no concept of coding at all..

There isn't any loops really..
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 6, 2003 10:47 pm CDT
oh ok i thought it would have a malarkeyload of loops
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Post by: Seiryuu on June 8, 2003 04:34 pm CDT
Huh, my fps gets cut down like 2/3 when I look at keldrin(town) from long distances, I've got a 2ghz amd with 1gb of ram and a 128mb radeon 8500 that handles every other game with no issues.

Keldrin town is a resource mystery to me, anyone else get this?

To the new prefabs. Might I suggest an "Island of the Gods"

It'd be a place you'de have to fly to, you know a floating island, and transport would only get you under it, or only work for gods.. The island would feature a place to fight monsters of random massive ridiculous power, and an arena for the gods to fight eachother.

Just something thats been floating around in my mind.
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Post by: Particle on June 8, 2003 04:47 pm CDT
Centuria, K-town, the mines, yolanda, and the mage tower are all in the same general area--that's a lot of geometry for such an ancient engine.
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Post by: Newbie on June 8, 2003 04:50 pm CDT
Quote from: "Seiryuu"
To the new prefabs. Might I suggest an "Island of the Gods"

It'd be a place you'de have to fly to, you know a floating island, and transport would only get you under it, or only work for gods.. The island would feature a place to fight monsters of random massive ridiculous power, and an arena for the gods to fight eachother.


There won't be any gods for a good while =P

Maybe I remort town.. but I like your idea.
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Post by: Seiryuu on June 8, 2003 07:06 pm CDT
Ah, true. While my system can handle it, the tribes engine wasn't made for it.

We won't have gods for a while, this'll make for an even more mysterious new area, as no one will be able to see it untill they are a god.
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Post by: Dasher on June 9, 2003 01:58 pm CDT
lots of cool ideas... how about a gambling system lol... gods go into the arenas and fight (somehow without losing lck and without gaining exp) they fight for prizes and other ppl can gamble on them with money or items.  The odds are based on the gods remort levels and current lvls.  Also gods can fight monsters of various levels and ppl could gamble on it... it would add an entirely new aspect to the game adding a certain element of chance... but then i just remember ppl might purposly throw the game when someone puts 100 bil on thier oponent and they split the prize... it would take some thinking to fix some of this but wth im just ranting.
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Post by: mad on June 9, 2003 02:16 pm CDT
server has gone a bit dead.....wonder why
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Post by: LastWish on June 9, 2003 03:06 pm CDT
If you have 2 gods fighting, no one will win..  haven't you seen god fights on the server currently?  You hit them and it either doesn't do much dmg at all or they regen it before you can swing again..
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Post by: eViL on June 9, 2003 03:08 pm CDT
apparently you have never seen a god vs me.
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Post by: Particle on June 9, 2003 03:14 pm CDT
Yeah, not many people on anymore.  If they're going to leave at the mention of a clear character than fork them--let 'em.  We'll get new players again.  For the ones moving to other servers, you do realize I clear less often than any other server and you'll be starting from scratch on some laggier server without the community found here-right?
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Post by: Crash on June 9, 2003 03:37 pm CDT
Part, I have spent years playing this game. I am 16, turning 17 in a few months. I don't want to continue to spend all this time on a game. That is why I am going/gone. Without something to come back to, why come back?
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Post by: LastWish on June 9, 2003 05:39 pm CDT
Why come back? People come back to play the game, and have fun..  they don't come back just because they have a god character.  (Well, the ones who enjoy an RPG for what it is at least..)

If you don't want to play the game anymore, thats cool..  an understandable reason ;)
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 9, 2003 05:52 pm CDT
the reason to come back is..... because particle is hopefully changing trpg.... i havnt honestly played for more then 5min on the server for atleast like 4 months now or something.. so ill probably come back if its different
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Post by: Particle on June 9, 2003 05:58 pm CDT
Your reasons are different.  You're not leaving because of the clear--you're leaving because it's an opportune time to do something you've been wanting to for a long time.  I'm talking about the people who are just so appalled by the idea of a clear that they're leaving in protest or in some messed up attempt to "hurt" the server.  Crash, your cause is just.  Many others' aren't.
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Post by: Seiryuu on June 9, 2003 10:13 pm CDT
I just joined this server a short time ago, and I remember at the same time there were many other newbs along with me. I'm not sure where they all come from, but part is right, new people will come in. Some people say this is the beginning of the end of this server. Hah! I'm sure they say that every clear!

        I play because I played on the old rpg map, you know when there were no limitations to gear and such, which was weak, and I wanted to know what improvements were made... Now I'm stuck playing because it's fun, and a free MMORPG. How can you beat that? Not by whining about char clears, that's for sure.
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Post by: LastWish on June 9, 2003 11:30 pm CDT
How many clears has Particles server ever had?  Isn't this the first?
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 9, 2003 11:34 pm CDT
its the first
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Post by: LastWish on June 9, 2003 11:50 pm CDT
Cool, hopefully it goes nicely..  Im sure many people will enjoy starting over again.  Also we have the new exp system, so that should be cool.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 9, 2003 11:56 pm CDT
btw what admin is jacking characters to level 10000

it is laggin the server to hell i cant even get in without the lag symbol poppin up right away

cant move cant even type
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Post by: LastWish on June 9, 2003 11:57 pm CDT
Ozzy and I put packs where you first spawn in k-town that gives you 100,000 experience so everyone can remort for the last day.  (If this isn't good, they can be taken away if particle tells us to)
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 9, 2003 11:58 pm CDT
lots and lots of lagaroonie for ppl trying to get into server

dont know why might be bashes or something but i tried loggin on and i couldnt even say hi
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Post by: Particle on June 10, 2003 12:02 am CDT
Sounds ok to me.  People may as well have fun during the last day *evil laugh*
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 12:03 am CDT
the thing in question was why is it laggy????
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Post by: Particle on June 10, 2003 12:04 am CDT
Could have something to do with there being 6,738 characters.
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Post by: LastWish on June 10, 2003 12:05 am CDT
Probably people just sitting on the packs because they don't know about autoremort.. lol (either that or they are just senile)
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 12:06 am CDT
... could someone get on server and DELETE packs from current location and put them somewhere else

like on something else that isnt in ktown with its 2500 something polys????
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 10, 2003 12:07 am CDT
bleh i tried getting in.. i could move around for a few secs... lagged and started getting attacked by some fool named purple haze
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 12:08 am CDT
i got stuck in ktown on a wall and got shoved 6x lol forkin lvl 10000 shove is like 600dmg
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Post by: LastWish on June 10, 2003 12:09 am CDT
I'll get rid of em..
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 12:09 am CDT
thanks


hope you can manage to get in and delete em
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Post by: Purple-HaZe on June 10, 2003 12:36 am CDT
I'm not a fool. :(
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Post by: xkenshinx on June 10, 2003 12:43 am CDT
anyone who dares attack me... is a fool :P lol
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Post by: Purple-HaZe on June 10, 2003 12:44 am CDT
I dare to attack anything that can die.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 12:44 am CDT
ill attack you first lol LOWBIE DUELING TO THE EXTREME


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Post by: xkenshinx on June 10, 2003 12:48 am CDT
but i didn't die.... even though u were lvl 100000... and i was like what lvl 16?

 :cry:
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Post by: Purple-HaZe on June 10, 2003 12:49 am CDT
I was level 960 or so and you were level 19.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 12:49 am CDT
LOL
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Post by: UnderGod on June 10, 2003 02:49 am CDT
I took the packs down before I left.. That wasn't causing the lag.. If it was anything, it was the people bashing bots.

The server was crashing every time someone died because the server needed to be restarted.. not reset, restarted.
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Post by: mad on June 10, 2003 10:34 am CDT
yes and we all know who keep bashing the bots
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Post by: Darwin on June 10, 2003 10:50 am CDT
Good thing for the clear tonight then!  No people bashing bots!
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Post by: mad on June 10, 2003 10:54 am CDT
but do you thin there will be to many people in any one zone?
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Post by: UnderGod on June 10, 2003 11:11 am CDT
That problem is allready taken care of..
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Post by: Darwin on June 10, 2003 11:12 am CDT
I think ozzy just gave away a spoiler...
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 11:12 am CDT
there will be an extra temp zone for newbie leveling
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Post by: Darwin on June 10, 2003 11:29 am CDT
I think we should name it "bob" and rest him inside a table  :twisted:
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on June 10, 2003 11:31 am CDT
good idea but no

i was thinking something like gobbies only a little easier but same exp or maybe harder and more exp
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Post by: Darwin on June 10, 2003 11:55 am CDT
Or, more emphasis on teamwork, such as in everquest.
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Post by: newchamealeon on June 10, 2003 02:16 pm CDT
or they could jus be like ozz's serv and not have weps

oh and long time no seee :)
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Post by: Seiryuu on June 10, 2003 02:59 pm CDT
Maybe goblins could invade the town, and we would need to fight them off, into the unknown. You know a starting adventure, maybe for a while they could just spawn right outside of keldrin town.

Heh, catch the newbs off guard.
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Post by: Crash on June 10, 2003 03:27 pm CDT
Yeah, since you aren't a newbie. :/