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Title: Character Clear?
Post by: zZenith5 on July 8, 2007 05:51 pm CDT

Hey just wondering if there's going to be a clear anytime soon because I going to start playing again and I don't want to start leveling than a clear just decides to come next week.  Any news or update about a clear anytime soon?


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No clear is scheduled.

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Post by: bungle on July 9, 2007 01:11 am CDT

Very soon, I hear, from a high up source.

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Post by: HUBBA on July 9, 2007 05:09 pm CDT

Quote from: "bungle"

Very soon, I hear, from a high up source.

Why?


If there was going to be a clear Particle would have announced it already.

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Post by: 12Stones on July 9, 2007 06:42 pm CDT

Noo..  don't clear.. then my haxed character will be gone!

In other news..

CLEAR!  I'll start playing again.  People are wayyy too high RL anyways..  no fun anymore.

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Post by: Kyrie on July 9, 2007 09:24 pm CDT

Not really. There are like 2 active players above 600, (4 total), 2 (maybe) above 400, and the rest are under 400.

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Post by: KoRo on July 9, 2007 10:24 pm CDT

Quote from: "12Stones"

CLEAR!  I'll start playing again.  People are wayyy too high RL anyways..  no fun anymore.

Same here.

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Post by: Sako on July 11, 2007 05:16 pm CDT

Stop asking for a clear and just play.. your point of view is egoist. Why people should have to start at zero again just because some people want to? If you want a clear to start playing again that just mean that you want to be the strongest or just to piss off the other. It's a god damn game, not a race.

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Post by: zZenith5 on July 11, 2007 05:34 pm CDT

Quote from: "Sako"

Stop asking for a clear and just play.. your point of view is egoist. Why people should have to start at zero again just because some people want to? If you want a clear to start playing again that just mean that you want to be the strongest or just to piss off the other. It's a god damn game, not a race.

Hope that was directed to Koro cause I never asked for one.  I just asked if there was any information on one coming up because I just got back into this game and haven't viewed the forums in a very long time.

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Post by: KoRo on July 11, 2007 07:13 pm CDT

Just my luck, I get hit by the internet equivalent of a stray bullet.

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Post by: Sako on July 11, 2007 11:52 pm CDT

I was talking to 12stones and koro

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Post by: KoRo on July 12, 2007 02:27 am CDT

Smooth. I wasn't even asking for a clear, Sako.

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Post by: Sako on July 12, 2007 12:27 pm CDT

then explain me what it means :    

Quote from: "KoRo"

Quote from: "12Stones"

CLEAR!  I'll start playing again.  People are wayyy too high RL anyways..  no fun anymore.

Same here.

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Post by: KoRo on July 12, 2007 04:24 pm CDT

Yes, I will start playing again if there was a clear. Once again, I wasn't asking for a clear.

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Post by: Sako on July 12, 2007 05:17 pm CDT

in a way you suggest a clear or you would like a clear so shut up.

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Post by: Xenos on July 12, 2007 08:22 pm CDT

Hubba has said before that there would be no clear if she has any say in it.

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Post by: HUBBA on July 12, 2007 08:54 pm CDT

Quote from: "Xenos"

Hubba has said before that there would be no clear if she has any say in it.

Why would there be a clear. No reason for it. Just cause someone has decided they want to start out fresh and thinks everyone else should to, is in my opinion not a good reason for a clear. People have worked hard to get there remort levels up to the way they are. I don't think just because there are a lot of gods on that we should just make a clear. Those people who made god status did it from playing the server.

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Post by: Sako on July 13, 2007 12:31 am CDT

Discussion closed.

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Post by: Aphex on July 13, 2007 02:08 am CDT

Quote from: "Sako"

Discussion closed.

you cant close a discussion. haha.




a clear is only worth it if there are major problems on the sever.

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Post by: slorge_gridlock on July 13, 2007 09:36 am CDT

Particle has always stated, if a clear is coming, there will be way advanced notice on the PCRPG main page or that anyone playing would have notice well in advance of the clear.

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Post by: zZenith5 on July 13, 2007 04:38 pm CDT

Sorry to start a fight on this topic just needed a yes or no and it came to this my bad.

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Post by: JayJay on July 14, 2007 02:37 am CDT

There really isn't a point in playing once you get to RL 100 in my opinion.  CLEAR THE SERVER PLKZ!!1

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Post by: HUBBA on July 14, 2007 01:31 pm CDT

Quote from: "EVIL_INC"

There are loads of places where new zones can be added. I mean mine and well and mountain holes all over the place that are being unused. Why not use a few of them to make powerhouse zones where you need to be 100 rl to enter and another 500rl to enter and then a 3rd and/or 4th where you need to be 1000 or 2000 rl to enter. That would give those players  a place to level that would actually challenge them and help keep the reguler zones clear for those of us who need to be there.
Thinking on it like zones where the bots auto mug you of certain weapons or whatever weapon is equiped or where there are no walls to hide behind or maybe where there is a quest perma set up just for that spot. Heck, we could even have ones that teleport you into a spaceship complete with working turrets and futuristic bots with reguler tribes guns(unusable by players of course). The list of possibilities is endless.

The problem with that is the server cannot hold that many zones.

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Post by: Dyre on July 14, 2007 02:53 pm CDT

There's definitely a few bot spawns on the server that could be removed entirely.  Gnolls in kmines are almost never used, nor the goblin spawn past the goblin mage.

Ruins is convenient, but a bit redundant.  Might be better if you turned the ruins into a high level place, and removed the teleporter in Ktown to prevent newbies from getting slaughtered.

Having both elven and crypt also seems a bit redundant.  Scrapping one to free up server load may help out.

Capping off Mino at RL 50 or so might be a decent idea too.  Even though I still go there, I could easily skip it for Tene.  And players AFKing in the pit (I'm guilty of this) make it more difficult for the lowbies to level up.  If it were capped at RL 52, by the time a player hit 50 that was unable to get in, they'd be able to use anchets already anyways.

More places for the higher level players would be nice, but it's not really necessary.  We do have DZ and Cents, and they're rarely used.  It might be due to accessibility.  If both could be used by a level 1 player, some of the gods might start going there instead of AFKing in Tene and Uber all the time.

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Post by: Kyrie on July 14, 2007 05:23 pm CDT

Not likely. Gods want to remort fast. Cent and DZ would take hours to remort in, for a God. That's why they go to Uber/Cavern: they can remort in an hour or less.

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Post by: -ShaNNaRa- on July 14, 2007 10:05 pm CDT

"Super gods" should be rewarded for their efforts, not punished.

RL restrictions would have to work the other way around-- You must be at least a certain RL to enter. Not under a certain RL.

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Post by: HUBBA on July 15, 2007 02:25 am CDT

Quote from: "-ShaNNaRa-"

"Super gods" should be rewarded for their efforts, not punished.

RL restrictions would have to work the other way around-- You must be at least a certain RL to enter. Not under a certain RL.

What he was saying Shannara is segregate zones. So that lower levels can also have a chance at getting decent exp. We have tried that in the past and it still does not work well. Look at the newer zones that we have put in. No one uses them or everyone wants to use them at one time. Dz zone is rarely used at all anymore.

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Post by: Dyre on July 15, 2007 10:13 am CDT

Noob zone helps the really low levels very well, and the cap there does wonders.  That's why I suggested the cap for minos since an RL 50 player doesn't really HAVE to go through there.  It would free up another zone for the lower RL's to level up in.  And gods won't be able to harass them in there.  Plus it would keep the pit relatively empty.

It's really a mixed bag.  The high level zones take longer to work your way through because of the need for more exp at those levels, and because the bots take longer to kill.  Plus players that aren't remorting also use them for leveling and monetary gain.  Since there's just a couple of zones that are used for players going from 70-101, they tend to be very high traffic which makes it take longer to level up there.

But at the same time, that means that there's a competition for experience at those higher levels.  Whether that's a good thing or not is up to the player to decide.

Another high level zone or two comparable to uber and/or caverns would be nice.  But again, it's not really necessary.  Adding a second bot spawn to caverns would speed up the traffic through there a bit, but not require another zone.  Sure, people will still complain, but they probably would if there were two caverns and two ubers too.

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Post by: Dyre on July 15, 2007 11:38 am CDT

Quote from: "Dyre"

Adding a second bot spawn to caverns would speed up the traffic through there a bit, but not require another zone.  Sure, people will still complain, but they probably would if there were two caverns and two ubers too.

Disregard that, I saw the obvious flaw.  Too many high RL's just afk in there from level 1 anyways.

Quote from: "EVIL_INC"

The super gods are rewarded. They are given the power to say who does or does not get to get exp in the zones. They do this merely by afking in them in such ways that others are unable to use them and in such cases as uber unable to use them effectively. That is the negative bonus they have that actually hurts the server. They do have other bonuses and rewards though. They are the privilaged few who can use dz and centuria effectively. The fact that you rarely see them there is a testament that most of them would rather use the priviladges that are negative rather then positive.
They would much rather use th zones in ways they were not intended such as afk leveling and keeping lowbies out. Why not force them to use thier powers in a more positive way so that others can effectively play the game.
Take the example of the "new zone" with a permanent quest set up in it, we all clamor for quests, why not let a privilage of being a high rl be the ability to play one any time they want? or to play in a zone that actually gives them a challenge and has stuff in their packs that make a high rl prefer to farm there then in the low rl zones?

Sure, if it's more worthwhile for a supergod to go there, and it's inaccessible to the lower players, it could work.  But if they go there and it's already occupied by two gods, they might just go afk in ubers anyways, and players will still unsavory woman.  You'd need some way to make it good for multiple gods.  Maybe a few rooms each with a super spike, an uber spawn, and a merchant so they can mine, cast, and sell gems constantly   .

In all seriousness though, it's been this way for a long time, and it used to be worse.  It's really not that bad.  If you need proof, you're still leveling up aren't you?  Sure, the gods get most of the xp because they're stronger.  You want to punish the RL400's for dealing with all the same stuff you did, and possibly worse?  Trust me, the gods would love to have a god only zone as good as uber or caverns, and we don't like having to share xp with the lower level players.  But we've learned to cope.  Sometimes, we even have to babysit the lower RL's by sacrificing exp efficiency and staying out of the mino pit or trying to protect them from ubers.

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Post by: Kyrie on July 15, 2007 11:44 am CDT

'Super Gods' don't want challenge when they're leveling. They want quick and easy EXP. The faster we remort, the better. It's different for low RLs. Low RLs can see a change in their abilities every remort and even more noticeable changes every 10 remorts or so. For 'Super Gods' we have to go 30 remorts before we see any change at all. On average, that takes 3 to 4 days to have any increase in our stats.
I've gone to Centuria at level 1. It takes like 5 or 6 hours to do a full remort there, compared to around 1 hour in Cavern and 1 hour 15 minutes in Uber. DZ is even more of a pain, getting bashed around while I'm trying to kill the bots.
Ghettozone/Cavern was designed with noobs in mind; it was found to be perfect for Gods. Temple is now the noob zone, RL10 and under, only.

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Post by: Aphex on July 15, 2007 11:56 am CDT

yeah temple is good until you hit rl 10. but for people like me who are 10 and up its really really hard to lvl. once i hit mino its takes forever to go to 101. that's the main reason i dont play as much. its taken me over a month to get 5 or so remorts because i have to play mino from lvl 50-101. and im only strong enough to go to cavern when im lvl 98 or so because there is always a god there so i cant be up on the ledge.

but then again having cavern has done a lot to free up other zones. and having cavern is really more of a convenience than a necessity as it only really lets you lvl faster than uber or cent.

creating a new zone would just be more of a convenience and wouldnt really do anything to make the game better. there will still be a problem with zones in peoples eyes and that will never change.

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Post by: Dyre on July 15, 2007 12:14 pm CDT

Quote from: "Kyrie"

'Super Gods' don't want challenge when they're leveling. They want quick and easy EXP. The faster we remort, the better. It's different for low RLs. Low RLs can see a change in their abilities every remort and even more noticeable changes every 10 remorts or so. For 'Super Gods' we have to go 30 remorts before we see any change at all. On average, that takes 3 to 4 days to have any increase in our stats.
I've gone to Centuria at level 1. It takes like 5 or 6 hours to do a full remort there, compared to around 1 hour in Cavern and 1 hour 15 minutes in Uber. DZ is even more of a pain, getting bashed around while I'm trying to kill the bots.
Ghettozone/Cavern was designed with noobs in mind; it was found to be perfect for Gods. Temple is now the noob zone, RL10 and under, only.

Very true.  The gods want their own zones just as bad as you guys do.  But it simply won't work.  If I'm in god uber or whatever, and a second god comes in and sees me, they'll just go to regular uber if it's empty.

Sure, you could segregate god uber and regular uber.  But that still wont' work.  RL 30's will unsavory woman about the RL 90's afking in there, and you'll want the caps changed.  Then we'll have RL 70's unsavory womaning about the gods always AFK.

How about this?  Block off caverns, and disallow gods in there.  Anyone below RL 100 can go to the caverns to level, but can't get into uber.  And vice versa for the gods.  See the problem?  Caverns will still get packed full, and you'll want access to uber back.

As I said, gods would be psyched to get their own zone.  But it would be unlikely for it to happen.  Ruins would be perfect for this since it's a reduntant zone.  But gods still wouldn't use it because AFKing there isn't very efficient.  It's really pathetic, but that's how the gods play.  They spend a couple minutes positioning their character, then they start up progress quest in the background and watch TV or whatever.

In reality, the game gets to be pointless soon after RL 100.  You log on, and let the thing play itself.  That also might be a reason why so many gods feel the need to be dicks to everyone.  It's the only form of entertainment they can find.  The content for the high RL players is nearly nonexistent.  So we continue to level up and harass or help the lowbies.  It becomes more of a social thing and the gameplay is lacking.  But it's fun for some reason.

Heck, instead of a new uber for god RL's.  You could simply give them XP for being a god.  It's practically the same thing except they aren't annoying the non-gods.  They log on, walk into a certain zone, and just leave the computer.  Hardly a difference to what happens now.  Instead of taking all the xp in uber, they'd basically do the same thing, and not take the xp from other players.  Heck, you could even spread out the experience gain among all gods on to simulate the competition for bots.  If a god is dead, they don't gain xp.  It might encourage PK's and assassinations between gods.  You hit lvl 101, you stop getting the xp.  I solved your problem.  Implement it.

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Post by: plasma on July 17, 2007 12:46 am CDT

yeah its fun to argue about all this malarkey.

except nothing will ever be changed on this server more than maybe one new zone a year.

keep trying though.

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Post by: Particle on July 18, 2007 03:36 am CDT

No character clear is scheduled at all, near or far into the future.

I've been gone a couple weeks.  Sorry this topic went on so long.

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Post by: KoRo on July 18, 2007 04:07 am CDT

Quote from: "Particle"

I've been gone a couple weeks.  Sorry this topic went on so long.

Heh sorry about all the stuff I left you in your inbox. Just ignore it, everythings fixed now.

Where'd you go? Was it fun?

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Post by: slorge_gridlock on July 18, 2007 08:26 am CDT

So...I hear there's rumor of a clear....

 sorry....

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Post by: HUBBA on July 18, 2007 09:00 pm CDT

Quote from: "Particle"

No character clear is scheduled at all, near or far into the future.

I've been gone a couple weeks.  Sorry this topic went on so long.

The man has spoken!!!

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Post by: Sako on July 19, 2007 03:25 pm CDT

now the discussion is closed for real..

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Post by: Karne on July 22, 2007 09:07 am CDT

A cave-like zone with stronger bots with  RL1 restriction, give them claymores and they hit harder or as hard as ubers. Solves the uber crowding problem for those who need money and the zone crowding problem since the "super-gods" will be split up. The weaker people can use the cave without having big crowds of gods and uber wont be as badly clogged with AFK gods harvesting clays which would free it up for lower RL players who cant take hits in the cave or in the new zone. Scrap a couple gnolls or those ogres by superspike.

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Post by: kharandhil on July 23, 2007 01:39 pm CDT

I just wanna say I love you all
(yeah in a gay way)

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Post by: plasma on July 23, 2007 07:33 pm CDT

Yeah particle has told everyone that same thing many times in the recent past but retards have to bring it up over and over.

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Post by: 12Stones on July 25, 2007 08:48 pm CDT

See, sako wants a clear too..

Do it.

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Post by: Sako on July 27, 2007 10:33 am CDT

duh?

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Post by: kharandhil on July 27, 2007 02:46 pm CDT

It would be funny seeing me get to god in like 1 - 2 months....and kick all of your asses

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Post by: Xanth on July 30, 2007 04:24 pm CDT

They you all would suck like i suck...
whoa... that would suck for you... all..
*cough*
LOL

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Post by: 12Stones on August 3, 2007 06:08 am CDT

I just heard from triangle man that a clear is upon us.

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Post by: Particle on August 3, 2007 04:25 pm CDT

Nope.

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Post by: 12Stones on August 6, 2007 05:44 am CDT

Aww..  I was so very much enjoying the panic stricken posts that were created by this thread..

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Post by: Sako on August 8, 2007 05:12 pm CDT

it's fun to see that you have fun with useless thing

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Post by: Artorius on August 10, 2007 04:55 pm CDT

Quote from: "Sako"

it's fun to see that you have fun with useless thing

Don't be so hard on yourself. lawl

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Post by: 12Stones on August 12, 2007 12:35 pm CDT

Quote from: "Artorius"

Quote from: "Sako"

it's fun to see that you have fun with useless thing

Don't be so hard on yourself. lawl

Haha.. nice.