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Title: ANOTHER report on Focus..
Post by: Mojito on December 14, 2006 06:53 am CST
Hello. I go by the name of Mojito. Let's get right down to it, shall we? I was trying to level up in Travellers Den, and I got killed by a mob.. Okay, so I respawn, go back, go through the teleport, and notice my pack is on a ledge. I hop up on the ledge to get my pack, I get it, and the split second I do, I turn around and Focus is there. He immedietly shoves me off of the entire Travellers Den and I fall and die, and lose my pack.. I'm really sick of him bullying all of the low RL's (Like me... Only 8.) Can someone PLEASE do something about this? Thank you.


Best Regards, Mojito
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Post by: Celtic16 on December 14, 2006 07:04 am CST
lol you silly goose..you jumped off lol
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Post by: Mojito on December 14, 2006 07:07 am CST
....No I didn't..... You know, liars go to hell, right?... Why would I jump off of the TDen to purposly kill myself?

EDIT: The following players were there at the time and both witnessed it happen:

bored

eynassy
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Post by: Mojito on December 14, 2006 07:35 am CST
What the HECK! He did it AGAIN... Someone PLEASE do something about this. I took a screenshot of him trying to lie again with the same excuse, if it helps any...

(http://http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/dynasa/sshot0009.jpg)
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Post by: Celtic16 on December 14, 2006 08:01 am CST
lol 235 SP! don't spend it all at once! Anyway, you ran away from me, jumped off the edge and met an untimely death.Sad...but true!
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Post by: Mojito on December 14, 2006 08:23 am CST
That's not true at all, Focus. I ran away from you, totally away from jumping off the edge, and you shoved me down.
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Post by: Particle on December 14, 2006 10:27 am CST
I don't know why exactly, but he's a general pain in the ass to all players.  Punishing him does nothing to modify behavior, so I dunno.  Try to avoid him?  Play in a group of players?  Stay away from the edges?  Get BOGs or WWs?
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Post by: Mojito on December 14, 2006 11:10 am CST
Shoving.  Players will not shove/push/etc people off of potentially lethal heights.  These areas are that like The Travellor's Den, Yolanda, etc.  If there is any doubt about the lethal potential of a height, then you should not perform the action of making another player fall.  If it kills the player upon impact, this is indeed a lethal height.  Also, be aware that shoving people in order to kill them falls under the PK guidelines.  Punishments for this are as follows:

1st Offense:  Warning issued.
2nd Offense:  Warning issued and offender will be required to repay loses.
3rd Offense:  A jail period of 5-15 minutes as a general guideline.
4th Offense:  Player may be kicked or temp banned.

He did it two times, so it's his 2nd offense. He needs to pay approx. 65243 coins to me for the 2 Battle Axes lost.
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Post by: Celtic16 on December 14, 2006 11:29 am CST
I didn't shove you...Shoves cannot be proven.

kthxbai!
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Post by: Particle on December 14, 2006 11:45 am CST
Let's be honest though, focus.  You're guilty by default.
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Post by: Aphex on December 14, 2006 02:58 pm CST
particle all you are doing is re-enforcing bad behavior. this will do nothing but show him that it is ok, and he can get away with it. the only thing that will solve the problem is getting rid of the problem.
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Post by: Xenos on December 14, 2006 04:06 pm CST
Quote from: "Particle"
I don't know why exactly, but he's a general pain in the ass to all players.  Punishing him does nothing to modify behavior, so I dunno.  Try to avoid him?  Play in a group of players?  Stay away from the edges?  Get BOGs or WWs?


Really the punishments he has gotten are a bit sad.  With focus you need to bring out the big guns for him to even consider changing. I'm sure losing 1/2 his remorts  might do something to his behavior.  If not lose 1/2 more until he is rl 0 again.

Mojito don't even bother arguing with focus. Just ignore anything he says. Go talk to a squirrel it will be a better conversation.
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Post by: Mojito on December 14, 2006 04:44 pm CST
It's apparently useless to even bother try reporting him too. Sometimes justice just isn't a part of TRPG. *Sigh*
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Post by: Xenos on December 14, 2006 05:02 pm CST
Quote from: "Mojito"
It's apparently useless to even bother try reporting him too. Sometimes justice just isn't a part of TRPG. *Sigh*


I see you finally learned how it works around here!
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Post by: bungle on December 14, 2006 05:56 pm CST
this is sad.
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Post by: KoRo on December 14, 2006 08:03 pm CST
this is more than sad. Ridiculous is what it is. I hate injustice....i should be a cop. =\
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Post by: Bonzai on December 15, 2006 07:59 pm CST
hey Mojito, I've seen a SS where you threatened to do whatever you can to get Focus banned..   So did this shoving actually happen? Makes kind of wonder what the real story is here.....
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Post by: Mojito on December 15, 2006 08:17 pm CST
I threatened to do whatever I could WITHIN my power. Meaning, whatever he does to me, I will report it, if it gets him banned. I guess you guys could either believe me, a legitimate player. Or Focus, someone who has 2 full pages of rule breaking reports/logs.
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Post by: sin on December 15, 2006 11:39 pm CST
He's been an A-hole as long as I can remember, but he's never been banned and I would imagine that's the way it'll be for years to come.
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Post by: Sako on December 16, 2006 09:33 am CST
Quote from: "Particle"
I don't know why exactly, but he's a general pain in the ass to all players.  Punishing him does nothing to modify behavior, so I dunno.  Try to avoid him?  Play in a group of players?  Stay away from the edges?  Get BOGs or WWs?


The only thing we have to do is SEVERE PUNISHMENT but Particle you keep protecting him..what's the fun for other player? the only thing I have to say is : UNFAIR for everyone else..
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Post by: kharandhil on December 16, 2006 01:25 pm CST
somehow focus can get away with anything
jaling him except pissing him off temp does pretty much nothing
particle doesnt have a reason to care about focus...
shorty for exemple got banned for a stupid reason...lbda more an even worse reason lol
okay it was pretty malarkeyty what he did to hubba but that proved how much he was a pain in the ass
focus is pretty much the same
hubba doesnt show us she really cares...focus know he can get away with breaking rules ad he'll keep doing it unless pk and admins realise how much he affects the gameplay
guys who act like asses harrasing noobs and stuff shoudl be punished more severly
harrasing should also be a rule ...sigh
cuz whats the point for putting ruels like mugging 2 items an hour if u can mug any hour ...
about killing u can keep hp to low and blame bots for the kills...besides that u have lots of ways to kill and overmug without getting jailed for it and im not just talking about afk here...
besides that fact theres no pk who is on a lot admins rarely do something either...
sry to say this but we all know its true
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Post by: Celtic16 on December 16, 2006 01:25 pm CST
Quote from: "Sako"
Quote from: "Particle"
I don't know why exactly, but he's a general pain in the ass to all players.  Punishing him does nothing to modify behavior, so I dunno.  Try to avoid him?  Play in a group of players?  Stay away from the edges?  Get BOGs or WWs?

The only thing we have to do is SEVERE PUNISHMENT but Particle you keep protecting him..what's the fun for other player? the only thing I have to say is : UNFAIR for everyone else..


number 1.that's bullsh1t..

number 2.you really think that's how it goes, and u don't like it, fuk off!
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Post by: Particle on December 16, 2006 02:28 pm CST
To those who dislike how the server is maintained, I once again (and tiredly so) invite you to do something about in in the following listed ways.

1)  Become part of the staff through cooperation and being trustworthy--being an overall outstanding individual and then make a difference with your newly found powers.
3)  Shut the fork up.
2)  Leave.

You'll notice the absence of the following option from that list:

3)  unsavory woman about it from the comfort of your uninformed reality.

The reason is that doing the above non-listed option only serves to (yay, another list):

1)  Make me quite angry at you.
2)  Make it less likely that I actually will do what you demand because you are so annoying.
3)  Regret ever running the server in the first place, since worthless tards like you keep complaining about a free service that is impossible to run in a way that will make everybody happy despite it being unfairly expected.
4)  Make me wonder if people who don't actually have any clue what the fork is really going on will ever quit being armchair quarterbacks.

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Seriously, people.  Quit complaining.  Do something about it, leave, or shut the fork up for once.
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Post by: Mojito on December 16, 2006 03:01 pm CST
Quote from: "Particle"
To those who dislike how the server is maintained, I once again (and tiredly so) invite you to do something about in in the following listed ways.

1)  Become part of the staff through cooperation and being trustworthy--being an overall outstanding individual and then make a difference with your newly found powers.
3)  Shut the fark up.
2)  Leave.

You'll notice the absence of the following option from that list:

3)  batch about it from the comfort of your uninformed reality.

The reason is that doing the above non-listed option only serves to (yay, another list):

1)  Make me quite angry at you.
2)  Make it less likely that I actually will do what you demand because you are so annoying.
3)  Regret ever running the server in the first place, since worthless tards like you keep complaining about a free service that is impossible to run in a way that will make everybody happy despite it being unfairly expected.
4)  Make me wonder if people who don't actually have any clue what the fark is really going on will ever quit being armchair quarterbacks.

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Seriously, people.  Quit complaining.  Do something about it, leave, or shut the fark up for once.

we DO do something about it, we report the malarkey out of him, but your stupid forking ass never forking does anything about it. and if you're regretting putting the server up in the first place, take it the fork down, quit your unsavory womaning.

Gtfo mai intarweb, ~Mojito
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Post by: Particle on December 16, 2006 03:50 pm CST
Wrong answer.
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Post by: Kyrie on December 16, 2006 03:52 pm CST
It becomes tedious to play when you can't log in to the game without hearing someone complaining about how someone did this please do something about it.

On 12/11/06, Whiner@omgigotkilled.com (http://mailto:Whiner@omgigotkilled.com) wrote:
        did you get my last email?????????????hes on right now can u jail him please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   On 12/11/06, Whiner@omgigotkilled.com (http://mailto:Whiner@omgigotkilled.com) wrote:
this is me in a zone u can see hes in my zone i think hes going to kill me can u make him stop

   On 12/11/06, Whiner@omgigotkilled.com wrote:
kk i dont no if u got all those ss so i put them in a zip for u its only 853MB

Rose joined team Citizen.
Player tells you, "plz whats your msn i have ss to show u of him killing me again"
You tell player, "Please email them to me."
Player tells you, "whats your email"
#fw player #getinfo
[GLBL] Player2 "omg y did you kill me!! rose he mugged me then killed me and i was only afk for a second to get something!!"
Player3 tells you, "hey what time are you going to do a quest today"
Player tells you, "whats your email? so i can show you my ss"
You tell player, "It's in my #getinfo."
#fw player #getinfo Rose
Player3 tells you, "hello? can you please tell me when you are doing a quest i have to go eat dinner and i dont want to miss it"
exec beggerpackline.cs
[GLBL] Player2 "hello??? rose??? are you afk??"

 :roll:
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Post by: Particle on December 16, 2006 03:54 pm CST
No joke.  I think we go through a lot of admins and pKs because of people just whining that they don't get what they want.  It seems everybody knows what's best for the server except for whoever is in a position of power.  Go figure.
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Post by: Aphex on December 16, 2006 05:48 pm CST
honestly thats how it was for me. its crazy. as soon as you connect you already have 10 #tell's from people begging for quests or items or to replace their lost pack or to kill someone for them. its insaine. you're there to inforce the rules and possibly bring a little fun into the game, not to be at everyones beck and call.
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Post by: villman420 on December 16, 2006 06:03 pm CST
i know someone was on last night saying 'WHY ARENT ADMINS EVER ON?! WHY DO THEY LET BAD PEOPLE RUN AROUND AND KILL EVERYONE. ADMINS SUCKS HERE GOD"

my head then exploided
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Post by: Bonzai on December 16, 2006 06:29 pm CST
Wow!    just simply WoW!  

 Too much drama folks!

  Everything is gonna be fine. I've talked to Focus and he knows what the next punishment is if he blatantly breaks the the rules again.  No, it's none of your business right now but be at ease that the consequences he'll pay are signifigant and I'll administer them.

  In case you folks forgot a big part of this server is player inter-action.
I know of no other game on the internet that can boast about as much as we seem to have! Actually we are unique and I like it!
  We seem to be having an over reaction to a single player!  If you only knew how many other "focus'" there have been!


   So, with that in mind...   Play on and let's see what happens!
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Post by: HUBBA on December 16, 2006 06:50 pm CST
Now you see what my life in the server has been for the last couple of years.

Why do I stick around? Cause there are some players worth playing with and the I happen to enjoy playing in the comunity as a whole. When people have a problem I don't ignore them. When a character starts demanding and cursing me out. Then I tend to ignore them. When they start telling me how to do my job in the server and make demands on how I deal with an individual, I tend to also ignore them. In other words respect me and you will recieve respect also.

If you guys think that the server is bad now. You should have been there when I first started. No direspect to the admins in the past, but there was a lot more trouble in the server then there is now. Noobs were killed on a regular bases constantly. There was no one there like Tokath to help you level in Taveler's Den, or give you information. There was no god zone or nooby zone to level in. You had to do the Mino Marathon to get through your first Remort level.  Most of the time people ignored you if you asked nooby questions, they would come and kill you or told you to go play somewhere else.  If you complained to an admin like you guys do now. #kick was the answer, or you where ignored.
 
As someone said earlier. Shorty and LBDA did a lot worse to the server. Yes  Focus is a pain in my Arse. Has been for a while. One of these days he is going to push me overboard, but Focus has not since the last clear duped and exploited the server. He has also not given out MY personal information to the server, making my life complete hell, by having people call me to get on the server and run quest for them, or leaving stupid messages on my answering machine, calling me everything but a white women.
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Post by: kharandhil on December 16, 2006 06:51 pm CST
yeah its sad how noobs make too much drama out of this ,we all had to go through getting pissed because we get mugged and killed
mature persons get over it become stronger and kill /mug back...

rule breaking is hard to prove...i undestand pks wont be there every moment of the day
but sometimes i see stuff and wish I could do something about it sigh
like lots of times ive seen focus muggin rls 0 which dont have a clue about what focus did to them or that it is rule breaking and they dont know how to take ss...

other times u got type-s mimic killing a guy in jaten with casting...

admins and pks do a good job but theyre not always there...

for exemple jeen shan silver and major all had exam...(me too actually)
understandable but they werent there...
corona got a job...no more time
hubba and bonzai are busy obviously....
kingpin havnt seen him during months...
sako has been doing a great job but shes not that much on...

whats the point of all that?nothing except... i do thing taking more pks would help
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Post by: Xenos on December 16, 2006 07:45 pm CST
Quote from: "Particle"
To those who dislike how the server is maintained, I once again (and tiredly so) invite you to do something about in in the following listed ways.

1)  Become part of the staff through cooperation and being trustworthy--being an overall outstanding individual and then make a difference with your newly found powers.


I'm interested in becoming part of the staff.  I passed on the last pk trials because I was too busy.  Really I spend way too much time playing here and could do some good while on.  I hope hubba finds me trustworthy. I've been here almost 2 years and managed to piss off focus but still have not broken any rules.
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Post by: Sako on December 16, 2006 07:54 pm CST
Quote from: "Particle"
Seriously, people.  Quit complaining.  Do something about it, leave, or shut the fark up for once.


we WANT to do something about it.. but you refused many offer from PK and Admin about some punishement we offered. so we tried.
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Post by: Kyrie on December 17, 2006 01:39 am CST
We could always just run things like California. Three strikes and you're out.
But then we'd have hardly anyone playing (for very long).
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Post by: kharandhil on December 17, 2006 06:41 am CST
Quote from: "Kyrie"
We could always just run things like California. Three strikes and you're out.
But then we'd have hardly anyone playing (for very long).

no i dont agree...
that system can be used can be a good reason if used against the right persons...
by this i mean good guys wont be kick and bad guys will
by god guys i m talking about guys like me who are just there to mainly play and talk a bit
the mugging and killing is something im not that interested in...
on the other side u got guys who keep breaking rules not caring aobut the rules; when they get jailed instead of acceting it they complain about it and start insulting pks...
they are mainly on to haras certain people...
i dont think seeing the diff between good and bad guys is that diff...
those guys who look for trouble are just looking for being punished
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Post by: Particle on December 17, 2006 07:41 am CST
I can't very well have everybody be an admin.  Admins should be few, pKs a little more numerous, and active, common players the most numerous by far.  I think we're about at the right level.  Surely nobody expects there to be somebody on all the time to babysit.  I do realize that most players are quite young, but a little maturity about the game is in order.  If something happens, do what you know is right.  If a pK is on, report it to them.  If no pKs are on that you recognize, tell an admin.  If no admins are on that you recognize, tell somebody the next chance you get, email or PM staff on this forum, or use an IM client.  Do not tell me, however.  I will simply redirect the complaint to Hubba for resolution since I don't play the game.

My role here is as the operator, maintainer, and provider of services.  I do not, however, need to know about in-game disputes.  Tell me about exploitation but not disputes or normal rule violations.
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Post by: Aphex on December 17, 2006 08:45 am CST
Quote from: "Kyrie"
We could always just run things like California. Three strikes and you're out.
But then we'd have hardly anyone playing (for very long).


nichole richie found this out the hard way.
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Post by: kharandhil on December 17, 2006 05:30 pm CST
Quote from: "Particle"
My role here is as the operator, maintainer, and provider of services. I do not, however, need to know about in-game disputes. Tell me about exploitation but not disputes or normal rule violations.
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i never said i wanted u to come on to learn about disputes, i just wanted u to come on to have some fun...
I play rpg just for the chatting sometimes....

about pks and admins ...I just want to be pk lol :p
but not for the wrong reasons,duh...
mainly cuz pks have some extra things normal players dont have
in the past i've had some rare situations when there were no pk or admins on and if i had been a pk I could have done something about it...I don't think having one extra admin and 2 or 3 pks would be bad...

I just continue helping and being as useful as possible...however i feel useless at times...
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Post by: Kyrie on December 17, 2006 06:49 pm CST
If everyone's an admin then we all have an even playing field.
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Post by: Celtic16 on December 17, 2006 06:54 pm CST
Quote from: "Kyrie"
If everyone's an admin then we all have an even playing field.


if you want everyone as admin then go make your own server!

Post your lvl 5 admin password below!
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Post by: Sako on December 18, 2006 04:37 pm CST
Quote from: "kharandhil"
for exemple jeen shan silver and major all had exam...(me too actually)
understandable but they werent there...
corona got a job...no more time
hubba and bonzai are busy obviously....
kingpin havnt seen him during months...
sako has been doing a great job but shes not that much on...

whats the point of all that?nothing except... i do thing taking more pks would help


Excuse me sir.. First of all I had school too.. secondly, don't say that I am not that much on because I am probably one of the most active PK.. and there's also a fact that you forgot.. don't take it bad but you are ALWAYS on.. our life isn't PCRPG.. we can't be always on.. don't say bad things about current PKs, because your only goal is to get PK status.

Dont take nothing personnal but dont go too far.
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Post by: Xenos on December 18, 2006 06:33 pm CST
Quote from: "Sako"
Quote from: "kharandhil"
for exemple jeen shan silver and major all had exam...(me too actually)
understandable but they werent there...
corona got a job...no more time
hubba and bonzai are busy obviously....
kingpin havnt seen him during months...
sako has been doing a great job but shes not that much on...

whats the point of all that?nothing except... i do thing taking more pks would help

Excuse me sir.. First of all I had school too.. secondly, don't say that I am not that much on because I am probably one of the most active PK.. and there's also a fact that you forgot.. don't take it bad but you are ALWAYS on.. our life isn't PCRPG.. we can't be always on.. don't say bad things about current PKs, because your only goal is to get PK status.

Dont take nothing personnal but dont go too far.


Maybe there should be pks that are players who are on all the time?  I see people on even more than I am.  If they can be good pks then I think they would be a good choice.
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Post by: Particle on December 18, 2006 07:25 pm CST
People change over time.  When admins and pKs are initially chosen, they are all very active players.  Surely you don't expect somebody to stay on all the time for the rest of their lives?
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Post by: HUBBA on December 18, 2006 09:08 pm CST
Does that mean I can retire? :shock:




Just joking!!!
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Post by: Sako on December 18, 2006 10:58 pm CST
Quote from: "HUBBA"
Does that mean I can retire? :roll:
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Post by: Vi on December 19, 2006 11:16 am CST
I leave for a long time, and the subjects are still the same.