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Title: Scientists Find Yet Another....
Post by: -eViL- on March 15, 2004 09:13 pm CST
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/03/1 ... index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/03/15/distant.object/index.html)

how many friggin planets are there in the solar system?  how many actually in habitable?  .....
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Post by: Halide on March 15, 2004 09:22 pm CST
2 many to count (we'll find out how many that are habitable if bush stays in office, we might be poor but we'll be advanced!)
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Post by: Silvanoshei on March 15, 2004 09:30 pm CST
We knew there was something there decades ago. Only now we can see it.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on March 15, 2004 09:39 pm CST
what he said ^^^^^
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Post by: UnderGod on March 15, 2004 09:58 pm CST
If bush stays in office, we will only be going to planets that we believe have oil in them =/
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Post by: Trien on March 16, 2004 10:13 am CST
and maybe someday we might find a palent wit aliens on them
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Post by: GE on March 16, 2004 10:31 am CST
they can see stuff that far away... but they cant seem to find the lander that Neil Armstrong and crew left on the moon...

 kinda makes ya wonder.....
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Post by: -Icer- on March 16, 2004 02:01 pm CST
That's because they never landed on the moon. =X

And there are plenty of reason to believe that they didn't..
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Post by: Neoz on March 16, 2004 02:10 pm CST
I knew a site that explained that it was a fake that they didnt land on the moon. Does anyone know a site similar to that?
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Post by: UnderGod on March 16, 2004 03:01 pm CST
And small asteroids have hit the moon around the area where the lander was.
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Post by: Darwin on March 16, 2004 04:18 pm CST
Fox did a special on all that.
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Post by: Neoz on March 16, 2004 07:00 pm CST
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html (http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html)
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Post by: Hersh on March 16, 2004 09:55 pm CST
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The sun appears so small from that distance that you could completely block it out with the head of a pin," said Dr. Mike Brown of the California Institute of Technology, who helped in the discovery.


You mean our sun is like a star too? Whoa.

I'd rather they go to another planet than to see another one. We can't really learn much from staring at pictures. (But I agree with pushing it to be the 10th planet in the solar system, a nice round number.)

Hersh
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Post by: Darwin on March 16, 2004 10:43 pm CST
Ok, we'll just send you first.  We might throw you some food and water at some point.

These pictures are very important.  It would be disasterous to now know the topography of the planet surface.
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Post by: Hack-N-Slash on March 17, 2004 08:15 am CST
Quote from: "Darwin"
Ok, we'll just send you first.  We might throw you some food and water at some point.

These pictures are very important.  It would be disasterous to now know the topography of the planet surface.


Don't forget, looking at the specta of light reflected off the surface tells us many things about the composition of the planet and its atmosphere. It's speculated that Saturn's moon Titan has atmosphere made up of methane and other hydrocarbons, this is just from looking at the orange spec that is Titan. Don't forget to mention Neptune's Triton, scientists were able to figure out that that moon has nitrogen geyers and ice that behaved like lava(although its around -100c).

About the object found: I wouldn't really call it a planet, but more or less a kuniper belt object. There are thousands of planetoids within the kuniper belt, we just managed to find one.
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Post by: -eViL- on March 17, 2004 09:22 am CST
Quote from: "Hersh"
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The sun appears so small from that distance that you could completely block it out with the head of a pin," said Dr. Mike Brown of the California Institute of Technology, who helped in the discovery.

You mean our sun is like a star too? Whoa.

I'd rather they go to another planet than to see another one. We can't really learn much from staring at pictures. (But I agree with pushing it to be the 10th planet in the solar system, a nice round number.)

Hersh


heh.... from a distance anything is a star hersh.

http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm (http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm)
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Post by: Hersh on March 17, 2004 08:53 pm CST
Heh, that's what I meant, I'm suprised the astronomer felt the need to say so.  :)

Did they give up on that space station thing? I remember it was still a big thing, when I visited Johnson Space Center. I would  think that a satelite station would come before visiting the next planet.
Its ok to inslave other species.

Hersh
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Post by: -eViL- on March 17, 2004 09:24 pm CST
or as bush said, a new moon based rocket program. ;)
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Post by: KoRo on March 18, 2004 05:39 pm CST
please, no malarkey about the "Fake Moon Landings." Theres plenty of evidence to disprove all the reasons that people say the moon landings we fake. Besides, how hard is it to concieve a moon landing? It's totally possible, even with 1960's technology.
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Post by: Taurik on March 19, 2004 03:22 am CST
GE, the moon's orbit around the Earth is such that we always see the same side of it. Maybe the lander is on the far side of the moon, out of range of our telescopes. lol
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Post by: Aphex on March 19, 2004 07:28 am CST
Quote from: "KoRo"
please, no **** about the "Fake Moon Landings." Theres plenty of evidence to disprove all the reasons that people say the moon landings we fake. Besides, how hard is it to concieve a moon landing? It's totally possible, even with 1960's technology.


Yeah but there is also plenty of evidence to prove that we didnt. With all the stuff that the government is holding back from us now it is totally possible that they made the whole thing up.


tech tv had a really good show on it. http://www.techtv.com/conspiracies/show ... 35,00.html (http://www.techtv.com/conspiracies/shownotes/story/0,24330,3586635,00.html)
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Post by: GE on March 19, 2004 01:56 pm CST
America wanted to beat russia to the moon.. so we made up that we landed on the moon first.... I mean The American attitude is generaly to be better than any other country. Im not saying the people of america are that way.. Im just saying our government is.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on March 19, 2004 02:07 pm CST
Quote from: "Taurik"
GE, the moon's orbit around the Earth is such that we always see the same side of it. Maybe the lander is on the far side of the moon, out of range of our telescopes. lol

Why would they go around the moon and land on the other side?
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Post by: -eViL- on March 19, 2004 02:23 pm CST
Quote from: "Taurik"
GE, the moon's orbit around the Earth is such that we always see the same side of it. Maybe the lander is on the far side of the moon, out of range of our telescopes. lol


erm? we have how many satellites in orbit around the earth and you mean to tell me that not a single damn one of them can get the images?  The earth rotates, the moon rotates, the satellites can see all sides of both.
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Post by: KoRo on March 19, 2004 05:43 pm CST
Quote from: "Aphex"
Yeah but there is also plenty of evidence to prove that we didnt. With all the stuff that the government is holding back from us now it is totally possible that they made the whole thing up.


I'm saying that there's scientific reason disprove the "evidence" that shows that moon landings were faked. I for one choose to believe it. Im willing to believe that despite all of our corruption, we still did something marvelous. And yes, the government is definately holding stuff back, but for (mostly) good reason. There are tons of people who arn't ready to learn what the gov. knows, and i guess until they are gone, the Gov. will continue to hold stuff back. I wish they didn't know, Im ready to accept the truth. Are you?
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Post by: Taurik on March 19, 2004 09:57 pm CST
Silvanoshei & eViL - I don't know. I was just trying to think up some possible explination for why we can see no evidence on the moon that anyone landed there. In trying to come up with that, I instead found sites with questions like, "If there is no atmosphere and thus no wind on the moon, why was the flag fluttering?" and "Where are the stars?"

Hm.
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Post by: Pecker on March 19, 2004 09:59 pm CST
Quote from: "Taurik"
Silvanoshei & eViL - I don't know. I was just trying to think up some possible explination for why we can see no evidence on the moon that anyone landed there. In trying to come up with that, I instead found sites with questions like, "If there is no atmosphere and thus no wind on the moon, why was the flag fluttering?" and "Where are the stars?"

Hm.


If you read the article posted by Neoz then you will get the answers to those questions. Unless you already have and I'm reading that post wrong, in which case, n/m.
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Post by: Taurik on March 19, 2004 10:11 pm CST
Oops... need to fix that habit of not clicking on URLs that lack a description. *L*
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Post by: Pecker on March 19, 2004 10:45 pm CST
Quote from: "Taurik"
Oops... need to fix that habit of not clicking on URLs that lack a description. *L*


I clicked and was like man this is long, not gonna read it. Then I started reading and got all the way to the end. Was pretty interesting and informative.
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Post by: KoRo on March 23, 2004 12:47 am CST
Hye Pecker, do u think it was all staged? -_-
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Post by: UnderGod on March 23, 2004 08:40 am CST
If you think it was staged, then you are probably one of those people who believes everything they see or hear.
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Post by: Pecker on March 23, 2004 10:45 am CST
No, I don't believe it was staged.
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Post by: KoRo on March 24, 2004 10:09 pm CST
Quote from: "UnderGod"
If you think it was staged, then you are probably one of those people who believes everything they see or hear.


I hope that wasn't directed to me -_- cuz i believe it was REAL..not staged