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Title: UFOs' in mexico
Post by: WolfTones on May 12, 2004 02:30 pm CDT
MEXICO CITY (AP) - Mexican Air Force pilots filmed 11 unidentified flying objects in the skies over southern Campeche state, a Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday.

A videotape made widely available to the news media on Tuesday shows the bright objects, some sharp points of light and others like large headlights, moving rapidly in what appears to be a late-evening sky.

The lights were filmed on March 5 by pilots using infrared equipment. They appeared to be flying at an altitude of about 3,500 meters (11,480 feet), and allegedly surrounded the Air Force jet as it conducted routine anti-drug trafficking vigilance in Campeche. Only three of the objects showed up on the plane's radar.

``Was I afraid? Yes. A little afraid because we were facing something that had never happened before,'' said radar operator Lt. German Marin in a taped interview made public Tuesday.

``I couldn't say what it was ... but I think they're completely real,'' added Lt. Mario Adrian Vazquez, the infrared equipment operator. Vazquez insisted that there was no way to alter the recorded images.

The plane's captain, Maj. Magdaleno Castanon, said the military jets chased the lights ``and I believe they could feel we were pursuing them.''

When the jets stopped following the objects, they disappeared, he said.

A Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday that the videotape was filmed by members of the Mexican Air Force. The spokesman declined to comment further and spoke on customary condition of anonymity.

The video was first aired on national television Monday night then again at a news conference Tuesday by Jaime Maussan, a Mexican investigator who has dedicated the past 10 years to studying UFOs.

``This is historic news,'' Maussan told reporters. ``Hundreds of videos (of UFOs) exist, but none had the backing of the armed forces of any country. ... The armed forces don't perpetuate frauds.''

Maussan said Secretary of Defense Gen. Ricardo Vega Garcia gave him the video on April 22.      



05/11/04 19:43 EDT
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Post by: KoRo on May 12, 2004 10:28 pm CDT
Do you know if UFOologists get some good pay? Or do they get nothing at all?
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Post by: Sinister on May 13, 2004 06:18 am CDT
You need to cancel your subscription to the weekly world news man.  Oh yeah, by the way bigfoot lives next door to me.
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Post by: Hack-N-Slash on May 13, 2004 06:19 am CDT
Is this story verifiable? It's from AP so basically it spread by word of mouth. Also, the news will always print stuff like this to get attention, it's called yellow journalism. Stuff like this has been reported for years, the same glowing lights and whatnot.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 13, 2004 10:16 am CDT
No it's real, The Mexican government was doing a drug bust or something and seen these lights.  They realeased the images 2 months later, the only government to ever do so so soon, It was on CNN yesterday.
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Post by: UnderGod on May 13, 2004 02:03 pm CDT
Oh yeah..

I'm also hiding Hitler in a storage shed.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 13, 2004 02:09 pm CDT
You wouldn't be holding Elvis as well by any chance? Or even 2Pac!
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on May 13, 2004 03:48 pm CDT
You killed it.
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Post by: LastWish on May 13, 2004 06:55 pm CDT
FIRE ZE MISSILES!
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Post by: GE on May 13, 2004 07:38 pm CDT
Oh malarkey, FIRE OUR malarkey!
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on May 13, 2004 09:11 pm CDT
forking kangaroos!
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Post by: KoRo on May 13, 2004 11:37 pm CDT
Out of all honesty...i would love so much to believe it. I WANT it all to be real...to have aliens hovering above us. I believe without a doubt that ETs exist. But I never like to commit myself to anything without proof. Its been the same things over and over, and if they're all real, then thats WONDERFUL....but if not...yes i will be sad, but i know that the search will continue..provided that the government doesnt keep all its secrets from us.

the gov. is definately hiding things. what do you suppose they are hiding?
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Post by: WolfTones on May 14, 2004 10:48 am CDT
I seen on CNN that the government now says it was probally gasses in the atmosphere.
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Post by: UnderGod on May 14, 2004 01:54 pm CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
Out of all honesty...i would love so much to believe it. I WANT it all to be real...to have aliens hovering above us. I believe without a doubt that ETs exist. But I never like to commit myself to anything without proof. Its been the same things over and over, and if they're all real, then thats WONDERFUL....but if not...yes i will be sad, but i know that the search will continue..provided that the government doesnt keep all its secrets from us.

the gov. is definately hiding things. what do you suppose they are hiding?


There are unimaginable things hidden.

The general population will never know what because.. They can't handle the truth.

Especially with some of the idiots we have around here.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 14, 2004 02:14 pm CDT
Governments hide things. That's a given. I don't however, believe that there is any form of extra-terrestrial intelligence that is tangible or within our reach. Considering that the second closest star to us is Alpha Centauri, which is four and a half light years away, there is no way that we could ever reach "aliens", and the chances of them ever reaching us are infintesimal.

A working knowledge of biology and geographys tells me that the chances of sentient extra-terrestrials even existing are extremely small. A working knowledge of astronomy tells me that the chances of finding such life-forms are even less. A working knowledge of physics tells me that the chances of any sort of communication or meeting would be impossible.

We are alone in the universe.
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Post by: Razore on May 14, 2004 05:01 pm CDT
No. We arent alone in our galaxy. How the hell do you know there isnt another galaxy out there with a planet like Earth called WOOT?
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Post by: UnderGod on May 14, 2004 05:30 pm CDT
Untill we build starships with a transwarp drive and create an empire in space and fight the borg and.. and... and..

There still is a possibility..
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 14, 2004 05:36 pm CDT
Quote from: "Razore"
No. We are alone in our galaxy. How the hell do you know there isnt another galaxy out there with a planet like Earth called WOOT?


Did you even read my post or just the last sentence?
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Post by: Razore on May 14, 2004 06:50 pm CDT
Sorry. I meant "Arent"
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 14, 2004 11:24 pm CDT
I know what you meant.
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Post by: KoRo on May 15, 2004 12:52 am CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
Untill we build starships with a transwarp drive and create an empire in space and fight the borg and.. and... and..

There still is a possibility..

I love you, man.
Just because it's impossible to find ET NOW doesnt mean that it wont be possible LATER. As you know, computer processing power doubles every 18 months, making it possible to search more at one time. Just because Alpha Cent. is 4.5 lightyears away doesnt mean that ET doesnt exist. In our galaxy alone, there is a cluster of multi-billions of stars. Our galaxy is part of a small globular cluster filled with hundreds of other galaxies, and our cluster is part of a bigger cluster of clusters, and then the ever-expanding universe. Thats more stars that you could ever hope to count. In all of those stars, how can you say that only one was suitable to host a planet containing the ONLY sentient life-forms?

Dont forget, we did have 900 years of scientific regressing during the Midieval Period......
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Post by: Lidge Farkley on May 15, 2004 02:18 am CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
Considering that the second closest star to us is Alpha Centauri, which is four and a half light years away, there is no way that we could ever reach "aliens", and the chances of them ever reaching us are infintesimal.

A working knowledge of biology and geographys tells me that the chances of sentient extra-terrestrials even existing are extremely small. A working knowledge of astronomy tells me that the chances of finding such life-forms are even less. A working knowledge of physics tells me that the chances of any sort of communication or meeting would be impossible.

We are alone in the universe.


This relies completely on the assumption that we are the most technologically and mentally advanced species in the universe.  Because that light is so damn far away, there may be some other system farther than Alpha C. that may have what we have all ready.  There is no way to proove or disproove it.

Of course you pointed out it was your belief in the beginning, so your case rests with you.

I would still say that because there are systems in our universe that are older than our own that it is only logical to theorise that there is a greater chance for a civilization such as our to allready be in existance at a place farther from the center of the universe (or galaxy) than we are, and thus has had more time to develope than us.  The speed at which light moves prevents us from seeing such things for a very long time, so unless the other theoretical civ's make a faster-than-light speed mode of transportation it would be very very difficult for us to be seeing them at this point in our history, considering the rate of the galaxy/univers expansion and the speed of light.



On a side note I have looked up in the sky and seen silver spheres on more than a few occasions.  Both in formations and not, in the same place for hours of time.  It has been years since that has happened.  It has also been years since my eyes could focus as well as they could then as well.  The computer screenhas taken its toll, and the lack of sleep probably messed them up as well.  The existance of silver spheres does not lend itself to "exra terrestrial life" or to "military experiment" but I cannot think of an explaination myself.  All I know is what I saw, how it behaved, and how many there were each time (3 each time.)

Peace.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 15, 2004 10:59 am CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
Just because Alpha Cent. is 4.5 lightyears away


4.35 light years away, i'm not picking, but the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second you were 0.15 years wrong. That is a LOT of distance considering 1 lightyear is 5,900,000,000,000 miles.  I have heard talk of people trying to go the speed of light, using a HUGE "parashoot", it would me made of an ultra light fabric and would deploy in space.  It would take a year to speed up, what makes it fast is the LIGHT bouncing off it, actually pushing this ship though space gaining speed all the time, thats just one idea, humans have not made anything space dinamic enought to travel that speed in a straight line.
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Post by: Newbie on May 15, 2004 11:23 am CDT
Maybe that's why the UFOs are light and silvery in appearance, maybe they use that technique of travel, light bouncing off and speeding them up.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 15, 2004 11:33 am CDT
I believe that there is life out there, But i also believe that they are millions more years advanced than us,  They are looking BEYOND light years but thats just too slow, considering that the end of the space is estimated to be about 85 BILLION light years away and expanding.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 16, 2004 01:16 am CDT
Oops, I must have stumbled onto the wrong message board. Where I'm from, PCRPG, intelligent conversations don't exist.  :P

Quote from: "KoRo"
Just because it's impossible to find ET NOW doesnt mean that it wont be possible LATER. As you know, computer processing power doubles every 18 months, making it possible to search more at one time.
Microprocessor speed increases as a result of an increase in microtechnology ventures by large corporations. So unless you're referring to SETI, this point is kind of moot, since the bottleneck lies in collecting data, not processing it.

Quote from: "KoRo"
Just because Alpha Cent. is 4.5 lightyears away doesnt mean that ET doesnt exist.
I wasn't using distance as a argument against the existence. I was using distance as a argument against possible location and communication.

Quote from: "KoRo"
In our galaxy alone, there is a cluster of multi-billions of stars. Our galaxy is part of a small globular cluster filled with hundreds of other galaxies, and our cluster is part of a bigger cluster of clusters, and then the ever-expanding universe. Thats more stars that you could ever hope to count. In all of those stars, how can you say that only one was suitable to host a planet containing the ONLY sentient life-forms?
Here we go. Earth is an unbelievably rare combination of unbelievably rare things. Allow me to introduce you to the four conditions a planet must have for sustaining any kind of life at all.

- a constant and relatively mild temperature
- an abundance of water
- a sufficient quantity of the gases, such as oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide, necessary to sustain life
- an atmosphere of sufficient thickness to protect living things from a star's ultraviolet radiation

There four conditions exist in such a perfectly balanced and intricate combination that it's basically impossible to be duplicated an any planet either here or in a billion light-year radius of us. Earth hangs the perfect distance away from a small star, with a perfect axis and period of rotation with the perfect amount of necessary gases in the perfect atmosphere. Earth has the perfect mass for the gravitational field to hold gases in the aforementioned perfect atmosphere. Earth's perfect magnetic field protects us from cosmic radiation and foreign particles. You may think I'm overstressing the fragility and perfection of our planet, but I haven't even scratched the surface. If you had any idea how tentative and ridiculous even our own existence is, you'd know that any chance of duplication, even with billions of planets, is next to nothing.

Keep in mind: that whole spiel was about life in general. Those are the odds of even the most basic prokaryotic organism existing elsewhere. The idea of evolved, sentient creatures like ourselves is basically laughable and ludicrous.

Quote from: "KoRo"
Dont forget, we did have 900 years of scientific regressing during the Midieval Period......
Nine hundred years is the downstroke of a blink of an eye. Nine hundred years is a nanosecond.

Quote from: "Lidge Farkley"
The speed at which light moves prevents us from seeing such things for a very long time, so unless the other theoretical civ's make a faster-than-light speed mode of transportation it would be very very difficult for us to be seeing them at this point in our history, considering the rate of the galaxy/univers expansion and the speed of light.
It is absolutely impossible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light. Period. Not unlikely; totally against and contradictory to the laws of physics.

Quote from: "WolfTones"
I have heard talk of people trying to go the speed of light, using a HUGE "parashoot", it would me made of an ultra light fabric and would deploy in space. It would take a year to speed up, what makes it fast is the LIGHT bouncing off it, actually pushing this ship though space gaining speed all the time, thats just one idea, humans have not made anything space dinamic enought to travel that speed in a straight line.
Photons do not have mass, so they can't push anything; be it an atom or a starship.

Quote from: "WolfTones"
considering that the end of the space is estimated to be about 85 BILLION light years away and expanding.

I hope that by "estimate" you mean a wild guess, since there's no way anyone could have any possible idea as to the size of our universe.
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Post by: -eViL- on May 16, 2004 09:23 am CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
Quote from: "WolfTones"
I have heard talk of people trying to go the speed of light, using a HUGE "parashoot", it would me made of an ultra light fabric and would deploy in space. It would take a year to speed up, what makes it fast is the LIGHT bouncing off it, actually pushing this ship though space gaining speed all the time, thats just one idea, humans have not made anything space dinamic enought to travel that speed in a straight line.
Photons do not have mass, so they can't push anything; be it an atom or a starship.
A Photon does have a mass because Mass = Energy and therefore Energy = Mass.  The exact value has never been found, but many people have tried to find it's value and came out around 7 x 10-17 eV.

Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
Quote from: "WolfTones"
considering that the end of the space is estimated to be about 85 BILLION light years away and expanding.
I hope that by "estimate" you mean a wild guess, since there's no way anyone could have any possible idea as to the size of our universe.

A Russian scientist solved an equation which gives you the exact size of the universe.
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Post by: UnderGod on May 16, 2004 10:14 am CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
- a constant and relatively mild temperature
- an abundance of water
- a sufficient quantity of the gases, such as oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide, necessary to sustain life
- an atmosphere of sufficient thickness to protect living things from a star's ultraviolet radiation

You mean life as we know it here on Earth, right?

Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
It is absolutely impossible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light. Period. Not unlikely; totally against and contradictory to the laws of physics.

The laws of physics were created here on this planet and in this solar system. There is no way of knowing what is and isn't possible outside here yet.


Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
Photons do not have mass, so they can't push anything; be it an atom or a starship.


If light can be pulled by gravity, it has mass. Look at black holes for example.. The gravity is so powerful that it can pull light into it. If you want to go back to physics.. If something can be pulled, it can also push.

This arguement really is pointless though, because what the human mind can't comprehend it doesn't want to believe.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 16, 2004 10:21 am CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
A Photon does have a mass because Mass = Energy and therefore Energy = Mass.  The exact value has never been found, but many people have tried to find it's value and came out around 7 x 10-17 eV.
An effectively inert photon has mass, yes. (Actually, it really doesn't. It would be more accurate to say that a repeatedly bouncing photon would add to the mass of the container it is in, which is not the same. This subject is tricky, however, and totally irrelevant anyway.) But when the photon is moving in a beam of light, per se, as in hitting a starship, it has zero mass.

Quote from: "-eViL-"
A Russian scientist solved an equation which gives you the exact size of the universe.

I think you may have confused this with the size of our observable universe, which is about 13+ billion light-years. This is simply found by multiplying the speed of light by the time since the "big bang". We have no way of knowing, however, what exists beyond that or how big it is, since the light emitting from that territory is still travelling.
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Post by: -eViL- on May 16, 2004 10:29 am CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
An effectively inert photon has mass, yes. (Actually, it really doesn't. It would be more accurate to say that a repeatedly bouncing photon would add to the mass of the container it is in, which is not the same. This subject is tricky, however, and totally irrelevant anyway.) But when the photon is moving in a beam of light, per se, as in hitting a starship, it has zero mass.


A Photon at rest has energy, and therefore has mass.  A moving Photon has energy as well... and therefore also has a mass of it's own.

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The mass may be so small that it is regarded as insignificant.... but it still has mass.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 16, 2004 10:36 am CDT
I lived about 2 minutes walk from this place: http://http://www.armaghplanet.com/ It is one of the worlds leading space research labs, Many of the worlds greatest space researchers , including PATRICK MOORE!

They lost founding a few years ago then got a big grant.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 16, 2004 11:16 am CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
You mean life as we know it here on Earth, right?
Contrary to comedy movies like Evolution, it is simply not feasible for any sort of dynamic matter to be based off of anything except carbon. You will never find a hydrogen-based life-form, or even a nitrogen-based life-form (a la the movie, Evolution).

Quote from: "UnderGod"
The laws of physics were created here on this planet and in this solar system. There is no way of knowing what is and isn't possible outside here yet.
The laws of physics are universal, and were not "created" on Earth; they were observed. The laws of physics are the same here as they are on the edge of the universe.

Quote from: "UnderGod"
If light can be pulled by gravity, it has mass. Look at black holes for example.. The gravity is so powerful that it can pull light into it. If you want to go back to physics.. If something can be pulled, it can also push.
Not quite. "Mass" is a variable, dynamic quantity, which changes with respect to it's velocity. The mass in Newton's equation [F = ma] is different then the mass in another of his equations, [Fg = (Gm1m2)/r^2]. The mass in the gravitational equation (the second one) refers to an object's "rest mass". But since photons can only go the speed of light at all times, it's "rest mass" basically only refers to gravity and gravitational fields (and momentum, to an extent, but that's where things get too confusing to explain in normal text without the benefit of mathematical symbols). The mass in the equation [F = ma], however, refers to it's "travelling mass", or what I like to call 'effective mass'. This is found by dividing an object's rest mass by the square root of one minus it's velocity squared divided by the speed of light squared. So, [m = m'/sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2))]. So since the definition of mass attributed to being able to "push and pull" by contact is zero for a proton, you can't have a ship being propelled by light.

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This arguement really is pointless though, because what the human mind can't comprehend it doesn't want to believe.

It's not pointless. I believe that the humans, as a race, will never discover the existence of any other intelligent life-form, and I have the knowledge and willingness to debate my point. Besides, it's about time we did something else around here than flame Celtic, so bring it on.  :)
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 16, 2004 11:18 am CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Sil stop pretending you know everything about everything.  I lived about 2 minutes walk from this place: http://http://www.armaghplanet.com/ It is one of the worlds leading space research labs, Many of the worlds greatest space researchers , including PATRICK MOORE!

They lost founding a few years ago then got a big grant.


Jesus, shut up. Argue intelligently or get out. Do you have to taint every thread with your stupidity?
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Post by: WolfTones on May 16, 2004 03:33 pm CDT
How about this: Go fork yourself.
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Post by: -eViL- on May 16, 2004 03:38 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
very origional with the "Go fork yourself"  Noones ever said that on the net before.
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Post by: Newbie on May 16, 2004 04:06 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
It is one of the worlds leading space research labs, Many of the worlds greatest space researchers , including PATRICK MOORE!


http://custurd.b3ta.com/patrickmoore/ (http://custurd.b3ta.com/patrickmoore/)
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Post by: Razore on May 16, 2004 06:48 pm CDT
Lol. I laughed.
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Post by: UnderGod on May 16, 2004 09:46 pm CDT
There is no way to prove that there is not a possibility for non-carbon-based lifeforms to exist. Cells are unique that they are "human" in their own ways. They have to eat, malarkey, breath, and multiply. If you were to go into the evolution theory however, couldn't other lifeforms "spawn" by different means?

     We have found many new substances in space in our very short time up there. What is there to say that a different, but similar kind of chain reaction couldn't occur with different substances?

As for the physics. You are correct. We only observe these laws, but would you rule out the possibility that there may be other forces that we are yet to fully observe? This may be a bit far-fetched, but what about "Chi" or "ki". There is enough to prove that those forces exist. There is also enough to argue that they don't exist.  No matter how you look at it, there has to be unknown "forces of nature" that we have yet to discover or even experience.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 16, 2004 10:07 pm CDT
I agree that homo sapiens's understanding of the laws of physics is rudimentary at best. However, there are some things that we do understand, since such ideas on light and 'cosmic speed limits', if you will.

*sigh*  I know this sounds like rambling, but I'm tired so I'll cut it off there for now. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 17, 2004 10:12 pm CDT
I'll get back to this in a bit, but I found this today.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... co_ufos_dc (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=9&u=/nm/20040514/sc_nm/life_mexico_ufos_dc)
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Post by: Knyght on May 17, 2004 11:20 pm CDT
Now this is what I call a damn good thread. :D
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Post by: WolfTones on May 18, 2004 10:47 am CDT
IT'S MINE.......ALLLLLLLL MINEEEEEEE! MUHAHAHA  :P
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Post by: WolfTones on May 18, 2004 10:54 am CDT
The general consensus among experts is that matter cannot travel faster than the speed of light. However if one was in a spaceship travelling 0.1 mph slower than the speed of light, what would happen if one were to run 0.2 mph inside of the ship, in the direction it was heading. Would you be running faster than the speed of light? The answer to this is of course, no, because you are not running in relation to the space around you, but rather to the ship itself.

The same can be said about the ship. Can it be determined that the universe is moving or stable? When the ship hits the speed of light, the question that arises is; relative to what, is it traveling?
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Post by: Silvanoshei on May 18, 2004 11:06 am CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
IT'S MINE.......ALLLLLLLL MINEEEEEEE! MUHAHAHA  :P
No, it's Particle's.

Quote from: "WolfTones"
The general consensus among experts is that matter cannot travel faster than the speed of light. However if one was in a spaceship travelling 0.1 mph slower than the speed of light, what would happen if one were to run 0.2 mph inside of the ship, in the direction it was heading. Would you be running faster than the speed of light? The answer to this is of course, no, because you are not running in relation to the space around you, but rather to the ship itself.

The same can be said about the ship. Can it be determined that the universe is moving or stable? When the ship hits the speed of light, the question that arises is; relative to what, is it traveling?

Nice plagiarism.
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Post by: UnderGod on May 18, 2004 11:57 am CDT
Ohh.. I think it is my turn now...

Owned.
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on May 18, 2004 10:11 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
Quote from: "WolfTones"
very origional with the "Go f*** yourself"  Noones ever said that on the net before.


Rofl, what a hyprocrit Celtic is.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 19, 2004 09:08 am CDT
Rofl, what a homosexual blackice is
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Post by: Trien on May 19, 2004 10:35 am CDT
i admit i didnt read everythin on this fourm but i gotta say 2 things: One, its the truth or 2 thats some nice bullmalarkey u pulled outta ur ass right there
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Post by: WolfTones on May 19, 2004 10:38 am CDT
Who were you talking to and what did you mean lol
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Post by: Trien on May 19, 2004 10:42 am CDT
sry my b, i meant the story u wrote down on ur first post here in ur topic
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Post by: WolfTones on May 19, 2004 12:30 pm CDT
Quote from: "Trien"
sry my b, i meant the story u wrote down on ur first post here in ur topic


At least try and spell each word with the correct amount of letters.
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Post by: Trien on May 19, 2004 12:35 pm CDT
sry
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Post by: Xanth on May 19, 2004 02:28 pm CDT
Silvanoshei, I appreciate you ability to speak in complete sentances. (Thanks).  I think that by every rule that we as humans can comprehend your rules make plenty of sense.
However, I do not believe for a minute that we are able to comprehend one fraction of the truth.  If you told someone in the 15th century that it was possible to communicate with someone 1000's of miles away in an instant they would have told you that you were nuts.
As for splitting an atom, well how could that have been comprehended?  Did they even really know what an atom was then? (my history is weak)
I just think that to limit ourself by science that has been proven and is well known is not the best answer.  Question, try, prove, and Question again!

Thanks for bringing some resemblence of sanity to this thread.
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on May 19, 2004 05:56 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "Trien"
sry my b, i meant the story u wrote down on ur first post here in ur topic

At least try and spell each word with the correct amount of letters.


You're the same forking way. "Jelious".
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Post by: Xanth on May 20, 2004 09:49 am CDT
Quote from: "BlAcK-IcE"
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "Trien"
sry my b, i meant the story u wrote down on ur first post here in ur topic

At least try and spell each word with the correct amount of letters.

You're the same f*** way. "Jelious".


Doh!
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Post by: WolfTones on May 20, 2004 10:49 am CDT
OMG YOU KILLED THIS THREAD, YOU BASTARD!!!!!!
 :P
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Post by: Xanth on May 20, 2004 11:57 am CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
OMG YOU KILLED THIS THREAD, YOU BASTARD!!!!!!
 :) Not dead, just wounded.  CPR QUICK!
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Post by: WolfTones on May 20, 2004 12:05 pm CDT
STAND BACK! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzp* Phew!
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Post by: Xanth on May 20, 2004 02:07 pm CDT
Great to get the heart started but its hell on the hair, lol!   :lol:
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Post by: WolfTones on May 20, 2004 03:36 pm CDT
Gets it nice and straight!  :idea:
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Post by: WolfTones on May 22, 2004 12:09 pm CDT
I just seen this while looking though Fark.com

http://http://www.wftv.com/news/3331248/detail.html
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Post by: KoRo on May 22, 2004 03:40 pm CDT
Is there something wrong with dreaming that ET exists?
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Post by: WolfTones on May 22, 2004 03:52 pm CDT
I know ET life exsistes, in some shape or form there is something out there!
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Post by: KoRo on May 22, 2004 03:59 pm CDT
How do we know they're not 900 years behind us? ;)
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Post by: WolfTones on May 22, 2004 08:11 pm CDT
They could be but what's the chances of the time frame being that close? perhaps they ARE 900 years behind us, maybe they didn't have religions to set them back hundreds of years.
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Post by: KoRo on May 23, 2004 06:36 am CDT
that would be kinda interesting. You see all those Sci-Fi's where theres like..ancient civilizations and such. What if humans became the ancients? lol (before the universe tore itself apart or collapsed in on itself)
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Post by: WolfTones on May 23, 2004 11:22 am CDT
There is a LOT more chance of humans killing off humans than there is of anything else killing us.
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Post by: KoRo on May 23, 2004 10:36 pm CDT
Wolf has a point...depressing as it is.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 24, 2004 11:29 am CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
Wolf has a point...depressing as it is.


Don't try and get me started ...noob!
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Post by: Lidge Farkley on May 24, 2004 02:49 pm CDT
Wow... I was insulted... I "didn't bring anything intelligent to this thread" with my comments.

Well fork yall unsavory womanes!

This is the Throat Cutta moving to new AO.
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Post by: Pecker on May 24, 2004 08:42 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "KoRo"
Wolf has a point...depressing as it is.

Don't try and get me started ...noob!


I think he meant this being depressing:

Quote from: "WolfTones"
There is a LOT more chance of humans killing off humans than there is of anything else killing us.


Not the fact that you actually made a point.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 25, 2004 11:35 am CDT
Quote from: "Pecker"
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "KoRo"
Wolf has a point...depressing as it is.

Don't try and get me started ...noob!


I think he meant this being depressing:

Quote from: "WolfTones"
There is a LOT more chance of humans killing off humans than there is of anything else killing us.

Not the fact that you actually made a point.


This True KoRo?
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Post by: Knyght on May 25, 2004 11:57 am CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "Pecker"
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "KoRo"
Wolf has a point...depressing as it is.

Don't try and get me started ...noob!


I think he meant this being depressing:

Quote from: "WolfTones"
There is a LOT more chance of humans killing off humans than there is of anything else killing us.

Not the fact that you actually made a point.

This True KoRo?



Um... duh?
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Post by: WolfTones on May 25, 2004 12:29 pm CDT
Sorry KoRo, My bad!
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Post by: KoRo on May 25, 2004 07:13 pm CDT
its all good man 8)
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Post by: WolfTones on May 26, 2004 01:27 pm CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
its all good man 8)


SPECT!
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Post by: KoRo on May 26, 2004 05:56 pm CDT
wtf?
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Post by: UnderGod on May 26, 2004 06:39 pm CDT
Spect:

Commenly reffered to as nigger, spade, criminal, ect...

Not that I'm calling you any of these names. Just clearing up what he might have used.
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Post by: KoRo on May 26, 2004 11:38 pm CDT
i dont get how that refers to me. Im neither Nigerian nor a criminal.
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Post by: UnderGod on May 26, 2004 11:49 pm CDT
*sigh*

Look beyond the swear filter.

N****r

It was because what you said is stereotyped to a race of people.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 27, 2004 11:11 am CDT
ozzy your being such a fuking homo,

Koro, add RE to what i said, As usual ozzys trying to fuel the flaming that goes on around here, because he got caught cheating on his computer test. Sad little fat boy!
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Post by: UnderGod on May 27, 2004 11:53 am CDT
How did I get caught cheating? Because I didn't reply right away? You're an idiot.

No I'm not throwing fuel on a fire.. You stated a racist comment.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 27, 2004 12:11 pm CDT
ozzy, you are an idiot! And Racest!
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Post by: UnderGod on May 27, 2004 11:40 pm CDT
You keep on believing that.
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Post by: JayJay on May 27, 2004 11:42 pm CDT
*Racist*
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Post by: Trien on May 28, 2004 09:46 am CDT
*doesnt know wat ozzy looks like, so doesnt know  :? *
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Post by: Trien on May 28, 2004 09:47 am CDT
sry for doin this, but i had to say somethin else, i dont think he is racist and sry for that first post even though i said he doesnt know wat he looks like i still dont think he is
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Post by: WolfTones on May 28, 2004 10:32 am CDT
ozzy trying to be ecool, but really he is an efool......I know i know!
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Post by: UnderGod on May 28, 2004 04:54 pm CDT
As someone around here would say..

"I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally lolz."

Really though.. If laughing at jokes that stereotype a group of people is being racist than I'm guilty. If not then I'm not.
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Post by: Aeolian on May 28, 2004 04:57 pm CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
As someone around here would say..

"I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally lolz."


Thats a wicked quote, who came up with that? People should idolize him.
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Post by: WolfTones on May 28, 2004 09:07 pm CDT
Ummm that's an OLD OLD saying, probally older than most of us!
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Post by: KoRo on May 29, 2004 05:14 pm CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
*sigh*

Look beyond the swear filter.

N****r

It was because what you said is stereotyped to a race of people.


What did I say that was "stereotyped to a race of people?"
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Post by: UnderGod on May 29, 2004 06:03 pm CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
its all good man 8)
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Post by: KoRo on May 29, 2004 06:46 pm CDT
I figured thats what it was. But i still dont get how its a racial comment  :?
All I said was "It's all good man"
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Post by: WolfTones on May 31, 2004 10:29 am CDT
Don't worry, Ozzys just being his dumb self, Don't listen to him and you will be just fine!
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Post by: UnderGod on May 31, 2004 10:32 am CDT
Spect is a racial term.

The phrase you used is commonly stereotyped to a the race of people that spect belongs to.

What more is there understand?
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Post by: WolfTones on May 31, 2004 11:31 am CDT
You KNOW what i ment when i said spect, you're just an asshole, IF you really are the ignorant then spect is short for RESPECT!

But if you REALLY want to know what the word spect means then:

Definitions of SPECT on the Web:

An acronym for Single Photon Emission Computed Tomography. A nuclear medicine procedure in which the gamma camera rotates around the patient and takes pictures from many angles, which a computer then uses to form a tomographic (cross-sectional) image. The calculation process is similar to that in X-ray Computed Tomography (CT) and in Positron Emission computed Tomography (PET)
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Post by: UnderGod on May 31, 2004 02:06 pm CDT
No, actually I didn't know what you ment.

spect is a racial term.. I live in a with a lot of people that still think the American civil war is still going on.
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Post by: Sinister on May 31, 2004 07:09 pm CDT
Spic is a racial term for a Mexican.  I dont know if this helps, but Im was born in a very racist environment.
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Post by: WolfTones on June 1, 2004 10:20 am CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
No, actually I didn't know what you ment.

spect is a racial term.. I live in a with a lot of people that still think the American civil war is still going on.


You simple people!
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Post by: KoRo on June 2, 2004 04:43 pm CDT
so what your telling me is that "Its all good man" is a phrase used by people of other ethnicity....i knew that already. I dont see why you had to introduce me to new vocabulary, ozzy ><
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Post by: WolfTones on June 2, 2004 07:48 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Don't worry, Ozzys just being his dumb self, Don't listen to him and you will be just fine!
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Post by: Darwin on June 2, 2004 07:51 pm CDT
Shut up ya dirty Canuck!  :lol:
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Post by: WolfTones on June 2, 2004 07:54 pm CDT
LMAO! Shh I'm not, I'm just pretending to me one lol, I drink "Canadian Beer" and say "EH BUDDY" and complain about gas prices a lot, Yup, i'm trying to fit in!
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Post by: LastWish on June 2, 2004 11:15 pm CDT
Why don't we all just waltz in the 4th dimension, where everything is always good..
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Post by: Aeolian on June 3, 2004 12:52 am CDT
Last and her 4th dimension.
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Post by: KoRo on June 3, 2004 06:55 pm CDT
Im Canadian: "There's a rat in my beer. I think I should get a free beer, eh hoser? What's this all aboot?"  :lol: Honestly, i want to move to Canada, even just for a little while. It seems like a nice place up there. Very little crime, its quiet. Ill do that if the draft comes into effect.
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Post by: Taurik on June 3, 2004 07:36 pm CDT
KoRo, that's like saying Texas is a big desert or Alabama is full of hicks. Canada is no quieter or safer than the USA... just because you can't carry handguns doesn't mean people don't find ways to mug you ;)
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 3, 2004 07:50 pm CDT
It is a lot safer than the US. Look at crime rates.

People always ask why Canada's rates are so much lower than the US. My answer is always the same: "We're smarter."  :P

Edit:
After I posted that, I talked to my friend.

Silvanoshei says:
I love making fun of Americans.
My Friend says:
its like shooting fish in a barrel
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Post by: WolfTones on June 3, 2004 08:16 pm CDT
Quote from: "Silvanoshei"
It is a lot safer than the US. Look at crime rates.

People always ask why Canada's rates are so much lower than the US. My answer is always the same: "We're smarter."  :P

Edit:
After I posted that, I talked to my friend.

Silvanoshei says:
I love making fun of Americans.
My Friend says:
its like shooting fish in a barrel


No offence but I've spent a LOT of time in both countries and they are about as smart as eachother...Take that how you like.
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Post by: Hack-N-Slash on June 3, 2004 09:11 pm CDT
Depends on where you are in the U.S, intelligence varies between areas like rural communities, suburbs, and urban areas. Socio-economic conditions and the like.

Silv, are guns still prevalent in Canada? That could be the case for the rate difference, criminals don't want to get shot. 8)

Concealed carry exists where I live and crime isn't very common at all compared to the rest of the U.S.
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Post by: Silvanoshei on June 3, 2004 09:20 pm CDT
Most households have a gun, but most people don't carry them.
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Post by: UnderGod on June 3, 2004 10:02 pm CDT
Do you take population under consideration?
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Post by: KoRo on June 4, 2004 01:33 am CDT
I was just speaking generally about the overall crime rate....its less. i didnt factor in anything else.
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Post by: WolfTones on June 4, 2004 10:58 am CDT
What you expect when your president is a murderer!!!  Bush is as bad as hitler!
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Post by: Sinister on June 4, 2004 03:24 pm CDT
LOL.....Hitler?  I dont see Bush lining ppl up and mass killing them.  War is not a nice thing, but at least we do it with honor.  If it was up to me I would use guerilla tactics on their asses....eye for an eye style, but that's just me.
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Post by: WolfTones on June 5, 2004 12:22 pm CDT
Quote from: "Sinister"
LOL.....Hitler?  I dont see Bush lining ppl up and mass killing them.  War is not a nice thing, but at least we do it with honor.  If it was up to me I would use guerilla tactics on their asses....eye for an eye style, but that's just me.


Making human peramids with honor! LOL