Post by: Hollywood on July 23, 2004 01:17 am CDT
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 02:25 am CDT
Second jail was for repeatedly calling g3 a fag and gay. I told you i didnt like it, and told you to stop. I then told you i'd jail you for it if you did it again. So i did. While in jail you proceeded to make a song to the theme of Old McDonald about how G3 was gay. Thats when you got kicked.
We had this conversation earlier in the server about shove killing... heres the rule:
Shoving. Players will not shove/push/etc people off of potentially lethal heights. These areas are that like The Travellor’s Den, Yolanda, etc. If there is any doubt about the lethal potential of a height, then you should not perform the action of making another player fall. If it kills the player upon impact, this is indeed a lethal height. Also, be aware that shoving people in order to kill them falls under the PK guidelines. Punishments for this are as follows:
You can say you didnt kill him, but thats only because i stopped you. You can say you werent going to kill him in the first place... but then why do it anyway? to piss people off?
Player Actions. Players will be expected to cooperate and try to get along. After all, this is a game and games are meant to be a form of recreation, not court room battles. Players will need to follow the guidelines in this document as well as all administrators and peacekeepers.
All the things you did were jail-able offences. Anything else you'd like to cover? I highly doubt this can be classified as "abuse".
Post by: Aeolian on July 23, 2004 02:29 am CDT
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 02:38 am CDT
I also told you to go read the rules twice. The first time you responded something along these lines: "I helped particle create the rules... you go read them!" And the second responce was something about a noob.... i dont really feel like going to my Temp folder for ss's. Now... did some 1337-hax0romgz hax the server rules... or did you just forget? You probably didnt write that part of them did you, you probably wrote the part about the fighting for longer than 1 minute classified as spam because you surely didnt fight with me for longer than that? Hmm, seems to me I was at Ethren for much longer than your sentence of 15 minutes each. (15 + 15 = omgz.... uhm.... 30?) Hmm....strange
Post by: Hollywood on July 23, 2004 04:11 am CDT
Also, there is no rule about language on the server. You are capable of turning on the filter, and by turning it off manually you must have been fully aware and accepting of the fact that people would swear.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
The first time you were jailed for shove killing Ziros (I know you didnt kill him, but you were trying)
Who are you to tell me what I was or wasn't trying to do? You have no way of guessing my intentions and are completely unqualified to make a judgement based on an action I haven't even committed and am likely not to commit anyways.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
We had this conversation earlier in the server about shove killing... heres the rule:
Actually sir, we did not have any conversation about it AT ALL, untill I was already in jail for quite some time. And I didn't shove kill anyone in the first place.
Shoving somebody and not killing them is the same as LCKing somebody, neither one is illegal. Not to mention, even if I had killed him, which I wasn't even close to since he was just under half health, the rules state that I must be given a warning for the first offense. Notice how you failed to post this part of the rules:
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1st Offense: Warning issued.
2nd Offense: Warning issued and offender will be required to repay loses.
3rd Offense: A jail period of 5-15 minutes as a general guideline.
4th Offense: Player may be kicked or temp banned.
How many times did you warn me? None? You gave me the max jail time for a crime I didn't even commit, that you WATCHED me not commit and then stood outside the jail, refusing to explain which rule I had broken BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ONE.
Now, back to the swearing. You never warned me that I would be punished for doing it, which again you should have done were it actually against the server rules. Then, you jail me for saying it for 15 mins, which must just be an arbitrary number you made up to go with the rule you made, since it doesn't exist anywere in the rules. Next, Abbadon was standing right next to you outside the jail saying the SAME EXACT THING, mugging everyone around and guess what penalty he got? Nothing? Is it nothing Scrizaks? You can't treat your friends any differently than you treat the other players.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
All the things you did were jail-able offences. Anything else you'd like to cover? I highly doubt this can be classified as "abuse".
Ok, so far you have failed to provide me with one shred of proof that I broke a single server rule. You have even provided the segment of the rules that proves I am, in fact, in the right in this situation. Along with that, you pasted in some conclusion drawn in the rules, that is not a rule and cannot be pretended to be one. Clearly, you are the one breaking the rules set forth for both admins and players as outlined by Particle in his extensive rules. By failing to follow those guidelines, you are clearly the one in the wrong here and should be punished for your transgressions.
Post by: WolfTones on July 23, 2004 06:59 am CDT
BTW isn't Ziros god? or did he give his character away?
Post by: Ziros Suntol on July 23, 2004 09:59 am CDT
You are a worthless player whom I've only ever heard shoving people or hurrassing them. And WHY do you keep bringing up that I bought G3?
are you SOOOOO in love with me that you choose to involve yourself in ever aspect of my life?
Are you my wife?
My b!tch?
My lover?
Do you love me?
MIND YOUR OWN BUSNESSS!
Get over yourself and stop worrying about other people. God you're sick. Must fuking want my ass if you keep refuting to me like that.
oh, and I am still crying uncontrollably because my feeling were SOOOO hurt from 'Fag McFagFag'
Seriously Hobbes.... let's finish the 5th grade Mmk?
Post by: Jonah on July 23, 2004 11:32 am CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Also, there is no rule about language on the server. You are capable of turning on the filter, and by turning it off manually you must have been fully aware and accepting of the fact that people would swear.
I don't think "gay" is on the swear filter. However, you shouldn't have been jailed for it solely because it is such a lame insult, and no one should be offended by it (unless they really are gay, which I don't think Ziros is).
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Who are you to tell me what I was or wasn't trying to do? You have no way of guessing my intentions and are completely unqualified to make a judgement based on an action I haven't even committed and am likely not to commit anyways.
If it looks like you are going to kill them, then it seems like more sense just to jail you right away, rather than waiting, and having the victim lose LCK.
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 01:36 pm CDT
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 01:40 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
I don't think "g**" is on the swear filter. However, you shouldn't have been jailed for it solely because it is such a lame insult, and no one should be offended by it (unless they really are g**, which I don't think Ziros is).
It's a lame insult? Maybe its so lame because you hear/use it so often. If you actually think about what you're saying its highly offensive to someone.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
You have no way of guessing my intentions and are completely unqualified to make a judgement based on an action I haven't even committed and am likely not to commit anyways.
Following someone around shoving them in Ethren until they have 12 hp left makes you very likely to commit that. Even if you had no intention of actually killing him, and you just wanted to get him to low health... being an asshole to other players is not acceptable in the server. I notice how no one is ranting and raving about how NFY was jailed by 7 for (the same time), but when big ol'e Hobbes gets jailed..... all hell breaks loose.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Actually sir, we did not have any conversation about it AT ALL, untill I was already in jail for quite some time.
Isnt that what I said? We had the conversation while you were in jail. Did you not notice that right when I jailed you I came to talk to you about why you were jailed? If you think you broke no rules and that i'm just making this all up.... why would I have come to talk to you about it? Wouldn't you think I'd just stay away from ethren? You can't use that I jailed you just because you were annoying, or that you were spamming, or that you were yelling on GLBL... because you weren't doing anything wrong except in Ethren away from everyone else. So I didn't break down and jail you so you couldn't annoy everyone, and because Ziros was yelling.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
You gave me the max jail time for a crime I didn't even commit, that you WATCHED me not commit and then stood outside the jail, refusing to explain which rule I had broken BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ONE.
I stood outside the jail talking to you the entire jail sentence. Why do you think I was there?.. to talk to Jail-Burd?
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Now, back to the swearing. You never warned me that I would be punished for doing it,
Yes, I remember making it a point to giving you a warning about the swearing because some admins let it go. I think calling someone gay or a fag is highly offensive.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Next, Abbadon was standing right next to you outside the jail saying the SAME EXACT THING, mugging everyone around and guess what penalty he got? Nothing? Is it nothing Scrizaks? You can't treat your friends any differently than you treat the other players.
The only thing I can think of, is that you were too buisy threatening me that i'd lose admin, and telling me how you helped write the rules... that you didnt notice he was in the jail cell next to you for one of your two sentences. Maybe you'd remember Toby yelling about how Abbadon was in jail mugging him? Abbadon was in jail for what he said, not the mugging. I was making sure he didn't mug over the limit, and he didnt.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Along with that, you pasted in some conclusion drawn in the rules, that is not a rule and cannot be pretended to be one.
A conclusion or not, ... dont conclusions sum up what is said above? Meaning it tells you what was meant to get through in what you read. I'll show you what it says again: Players will be expected to cooperate and try to get along. Why would Particle write that if he didn't mean it? Going out of your way to annoy someone and be an asshole to them does not follow that at all.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
outlined by Particle in his extensive rulesYeah.... extensive with parts in it he doesnt mean? You're contradicting yourself now.
-edit- I also noticed how at your first post was to figure out who I was, and to understand why you were jailed. Now your posts are just trying to prove me wrong and get me punished. What went wrong? Did you get angry at something? Are you in a sour mood about it? I'll tell you about myself if you'd really like to know.
I got admin because the server was/is in need of another admin. I'm a nice person in the server, and most everyone likes me. I'm respected and trusted. Before I got admin, the only time you'd ever see an admin on was when Vision/Solaris was on, and they're normally afk. Aphex played for a little while for about 2 weeks... and then she disappeared again. That answers your first and last question.
My name is Greg, I live in Nebraska, and I'm 16. Im going to be a Junior in highschool, and I plan on going to Pepperdine (if I can get in) for college. I've been playing RPG mod since about October or November of last year. (despite your remark about me never being around when Ozzy was admin) The first admin I met was Ozzy. I came into the game because of my friend John who's character is Abbadon got me into it. LastWish was known to me because I had played Annihilation Mod with her (Sazuka was lw's annih name) My first character I had was Scrizaks. John got FFXI (Final Fantasy 11) and so he gave me his character Abbadon while it was rl 24. I morted that character up until 40 and maxed it out so I could just have fun. Then a few weeks ago LW talked to Particle (as well as myself) about getting a new server admin, and so Particle gave me permission to have admin in the server.
Anything else you'd like to know about myself? -edit-
Post by: Hollywood on July 23, 2004 02:43 pm CDT
Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
How can you call 'being a total fuking asshole' in the right?
You are a worthless player whom I've only ever heard shoving people or hurrassing them. And WHY do you keep bringing up that I bought G3?
are you SOOOOO in love with me that you choose to involve yourself in ever aspect of my life?
Are you my wife?
My b!tch?
My lover?
Do you love me?
MIND YOUR OWN BUSNESSS!
Get over yourself and stop worrying about other people. God you're sick. Must fuking want my ass if you keep refuting to me like that.
oh, and I am still crying uncontrollably because my feeling were SOOOO hurt from 'Fag McFagFag'
Seriously Hobbes.... let's finish the 5th grade Mmk?
Couple things. You said last night that was the first time EVER seeing me in the server, so saying that's all I ever do is kinda stupid since it's all you've ever seen. I've helped alot of people, and I've pissed alot off. I don't recall bringin up you buying G3 anywhere in that post, so why did you bring it up? The only reason I said the word at all was to get a rise out of you while I was in jail. I don't ever say the word usually, as anyone who knows me will attest to. I have had many experiences with people I know that are homosexual who have been hurt by that word being used by others, since you say you aren't it shouldn't be a problem.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
It's a lame insult? Maybe its so lame because you hear/use it so often. If you actually think about what you're saying its highly offensive to someone.
See above.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Following someone around shoving them in Ethren until they have 12 hp left makes you very likely to commit that. Even if you had no intention of actually killing him, and you just wanted to get him to low health... being an asshole to other players is not acceptable in the server. I notice how no one is ranting and raving about how NFY was jailed by 7 for (the same time), but when big ol'e Hobbes gets jailed..... all hell breaks loose.
Do you realize how much of a dickhead Ziros is? I wasn't being an asshole to other players, I was being an asshole to other player. Just him, because he is a prick. 7 didn't jail NFY for the same thing, it was for a separate reason or because NFY killed them.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Isnt that what I said? We had the conversation while you were in jail. Did you not notice that right when I jailed you I came to talk to you about why you were jailed? If you think you broke no rules and that i'm just making this all up.... why would I have come to talk to you about it? Wouldn't you think I'd just stay away from ethren? You can't use that I jailed you just because you were annoying, or that you were spamming, or that you were yelling on GLBL... because you weren't doing anything wrong except in Ethren away from everyone else. So I didn't break down and jail you so you couldn't annoy everyone, and because Ziros was yelling.
First of all, you are required to give me a warning before taking any action. Next, I don't think you are making anything up, just that you are wrong. That bold part I highlighted there outlines the situation pretty well. I wasn't doing anything wrong to anyone other than Ziros. I will admit it was wrong, but even so, it was legal. He had/has it coming. I'm not out to get everyone and I don't come solely to piss everyone off, it's just him. In fact, Ziros was the one yelling and whining in global, spamming all over. You should have punished him as well then. I only kept on with the song thing because of how much he whined about it.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Hollywood wrote:
You gave me the max jail time for a crime I didn't even commit, that you WATCHED me not commit and then stood outside the jail, refusing to explain which rule I had broken BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ONE.
I stood outside the jail talking to you the entire jail sentence. Why do you think I was there?.. to talk to Jail-Burd?
The point I was making is not whether or not you talked to me. I was showing that you chose to bypass the rules laid forth for admins and go directly to the max jail sentence, which is clearly for the 3rd offense. I hadn't even committed one offense, let alone 3.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Yes, I remember making it a point to giving you a warning about the swearing because some admins let it go. I think calling someone g** or a fag is highly offensive.
I don't think it is or should be offensive to most people, as jonah said. Had I seen any warning from you however, I would have stopped. Must have missed it if you did in fact warn me.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
The only thing I can think of, is that you were too buisy threatening me that i'd lose admin, and telling me how you helped write the rules... that you didnt notice he was in the jail cell next to you for one of your two sentences. Maybe you'd remember Toby yelling about how Abbadon was in jail mugging him? Abbadon was in jail for what he said, not the mugging. I was making sure he didn't mug over the limit, and he didnt.
Even though I said it as a joke. It is true that people like Kenshin, Snails, evil, dmk, Crash, and I wrote most of those rules indirectly. I still don't think you should have admin over somebody like Achro or Major but it isn't my place to decide that. I don't think you can mug in jail, since it wasn't working when I've tried numerous times. And I remember Abb being outside shoving the guy next to me in jail at some point in my sentence. Whatever.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Yeah.... extensive with parts in it he doesnt mean? You're contradicting yourself now.
I said it wasn't a rule and could not be enforced. That's it. I'm not contradicting myself anywhere.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
-edit- I also noticed how at your first post was to figure out who I was, and to understand why you were jailed. Now your posts are just trying to prove me wrong and get me punished. What went wrong? Did you get angry at something? Are you in a sour mood about it? I'll tell you about myself if you'd really like to know.
I got admin because the server was/is in need of another admin. I'm a nice person in the server, and most everyone likes me. I'm respected and trusted. Before I got admin, the only time you'd ever see an admin on was when Vision/Solaris was on, and they're normally afk. Aphex played for a little while for about 2 weeks... and then she disappeared again. That answers your first and last question.
My name is Greg, I live in Nebraska, and I'm 16. Im going to be a Junior in highschool, and I plan on going to Pepperdine (if I can get in) for college. I've been playing RPG mod since about October or November of last year. (despite your remark about me never being around when Ozzy was admin) The first admin I met was Ozzy. I came into the game because of my friend John who's character is Abbadon got me into it. LastWish was known to me because I had played Annihilation Mod with her (Sazuka was lw's annih name) My first character I had was Scrizaks. John got FFXI (Final Fantasy 11) and so he gave me his character Abbadon while it was rl 24. I morted that character up until 40 and maxed it out so I could just have fun. Then a few weeks ago LW talked to Particle (as well as myself) about getting a new server admin, and so Particle gave me permission to have admin in the server.
Anything else you'd like to know about myself? -edit-
Ok, here we go. From the beginning I have been out to prove you wrong and contradict you and get you in trouble. Nothing has changed. Look at the post title for example. It isn't "Who is Echojin?". If Ozzy was the first admin you met, then you should know better than to make these arguments and jail me for things I didn't do. He was the best admin this server has had (no offense to any of the others, he just was...different).
I had played alot with Lastwish too as well, considering she is in my clan and all. I've been playing about as long as you...if you add more than a year. I have seen what can and cannot be done and I have done most of it. I know my boundaries in the server and I am very careful to stay within them, meticulous about it in fact. Lastwish knows that if I break a rule, I am honest about it and acceptive of the punishment I deserve for it. Once she asked me in a tell if I had done something. My reply was "Yeah, thats 15 right?" In this case I know I am right and that is the only reason I am arguing about it. I haven't lied or mislead in a single post here. I am telling it from my side honestly.
To Ziros, you might want to stay out of this because your idiocy screws up whatever Scrizaks has going.
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 03:06 pm CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
7 didn't jail NFY for the same thing, it was for a separate reason or because NFY killed them.
NFY was jailed and following 7 said: "NFY you were jailed for being an asshole." (Not exact wording but that was the point) No one said anything.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
First of all, you are required to give me a warning before taking any action.
I understand the rules for warning players of their actions. However, if I had warned you about annoying Ziros, you could have then just stopped and gotten away with what you had done. The way I saw it, the 15 min jail time could give you a warning for the future as well as give you a change to talk to me about it.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
You should have punished him as well then.
I didn't jail Ziros at the time, but he then got off and got on as G3. G3 was then jailed for 1/2 hour for advtp'ing Toby out of jail. I would have done 15 minutes, but I tacked on extra time for whining on Ziros.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
I was showing that you chose to bypass the rules laid forth for admins and go directly to the max jail sentence, which is clearly for the 3rd offense
I think you and I both know that 15 minutes is not a long time at all... and only jailing for 2 or 5 minutes is pointless.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
I still don't think you should have admin over somebody like Achro or Major
Someone that never plays? I've seen major once in the past month, and Achromatos just a few more.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
I don't think you can mug in jail, since it wasn't working when I've tried numerous times.
I think Abb was just in his invo screen laying next to Toby, and so Toby started freaking out. I wasn't paying attention to jail cell #2 seeing how it was db on Jail-Burd, G3, and Abbadon in it. I was more focused on your cell.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
I said it wasn't a rule and could not be enforced.
The way I see it, it is a law that people should try to respect. It can be enforced by a minimal jail time and by telling people they should respect other players. If admins let things like that go all the time, the server would turn into a place that no one would want to play because it would have a bad environment.
I never said you didn't know what you were talking about, and I never said that you didn't know the rules. I just think we both have different interpretations of how the rules should be played out and enforced. You know my side. I know your side. I think we can drop it now. Is there anything else?
(Ziros, stay out of this, because knowing you... it'll turn into a fight rather than a mature discussion)
-edit- I will have nothing to say for a while because there are a few things I need to do around the house before I can go out. When I get home tonight i'll check up on it again. -edit-
Post by: -eViL- on July 23, 2004 03:33 pm CDT
As Hollywood said, you are no where within your personal limits to be acting as a mind reader. If you want to argue, how about we get an admin into the server to judge you, just a random admin that you cannot select.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
I didn't jail Ziros at the time, but he then got off and got on as G3. G3 was then jailed for 1/2 hour for advtp'ing Toby out of jail. I would have done 15 minutes, but I tacked on extra time for whining on Ziros.the correct punishment for advtransport'ing people out of jail is a ban... so you are already 1 Strike up.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
I think you and I both know that 15 minutes is not a long time at all... and only jailing for 2 or 5 minutes is pointless.Apparently you don't get the forking drift.... You start with the first offense punishment and work your way down. Strike 2.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
The way I see it, it is a law that people should try to respect. It can be enforced by a minimal jail time and by telling people they should respect other players. If admins let things like that go all the time, the server would turn into a place that no one would want to play because it would have a bad environment.When I was a god on the server, we use to swear and beat each other into the ground, 10 minutes later it was all joyful and well again. So don't even start with that bullmalarkey. Strike 2 1/2.
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
I never said you didn't know what you were talking about, and I never said that you didn't know the rules. I just think we both have different interpretations of how the rules should be played out and enforced. You know my side. I know your side. I think we can drop it now. Is there anything else?
Take your ignorance somewhere else. Rules are literal, they aren't to be interpreted figuratively or otherwise, you read them and enforce them as is. The way you enforce the rules is enough to make most of the admins sick. You remind me of 7, you are no better than 7. Strike 3.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 04:11 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
hey scrizaks, don't ever dis hollywoodUh... what? I haven't 'dissed' him yet. Don't get so defensive.
Quote from: "-eViL-"
how about we get an admin into the server to judge you, just a random admin that you cannot select.Go right ahead and do that. You think I act any different when any other admins are on? They would do the same thing.
Quote from: "-eViL-"
When I was a god on the server, we use to swear and beat each other into the ground, 10 minutes later it was all joyful and well again. So don't even start with that ****Does anyone care how the server USED to be anymore? No... I don't think so. And guess what... you dont play anymore, and the server has *gasp* changed!
No one wants to hear what you have to say in this matter evil. Again, this is between me and hobbes.
Post by: -eViL- on July 23, 2004 04:16 pm CDT
Yes, I still do play, ask hollywood.
Yes, people still do care about the way the server was, because they liked it better than they like you, your admining, and your general behavior.
Yes, lastwish and pecker would think twice about what they are doing before they charge in face first with admin. You apparently have troubles thinking once as is, so don't try twice unless you are trying to severely stress your brain.
So take your general bull malarkey somewhere else.
Post by: WolfTones on July 23, 2004 04:25 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
So take your general bull **** somewhere else.
evil you have to be about the single most hatefull person I have ever come across online. You REALLY are evil, the funny thing is, I bet you look like Razore, all that big scarry talk, sitting at home on your step fathers computer playing tribes, trying to be e-cool dissing people just to make yourself feel better, but the truth is, you wouldn't say boo to a mouse or you would get beat down like a little red headed step-son!!
Post by: Ziros Suntol on July 23, 2004 04:27 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
...on your step fathers computer...F that, his foster-daddies computer...
Quote from: "-eViL-"
Yes, you did dis hollywood, you called him worthless. Go read your own posts. Or am I not allowed to interpret everything you have said thus far like you interpretted what hollywood did?
Hey dip-sh!t
I SAID THAT!!!
Because I was acted against without ANY provoktion.
Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
You are a worthless playerPLEASE READ THE THREAD!!!!
Now, how about you stfu and please go
Quote from: "-eViL-"
Take your ignorance somewhere else.
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 04:34 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
Yes, you did dis hollywood, you called him worthless. Go read your own posts. Or am I not allowed to interpret everything you have said thus far like you interpretted what hollywood did?Good call on that one buddy. *looks at Ziros's post*
Quote from: "-eViL-"
Yes, people still do care about the way the server was, because they liked it better than they like you, your admining, and your general behavior.Why don't you let the oldbies speak for themselves? And who else has said they dont like my admining other than you and Hobbes?
Quote from: "-eViL-"
Yes, lastwish and pecker would think twice
Pecker? Pecker hasnt been seen on the server for months. Lastwish would probably have missed it because she's afk so much.
Think twice? You hesitate you lose. If I had thought about it more deeply, people would have started whining and screaming (OMGZ!!!!11/11/1) and then by the time I did anything about it, it would have looked like I only did something about it because everyone was complaining.
Think twice before you post and assume everyone agrees with you.
Post by: Ziros Suntol on July 23, 2004 04:50 pm CDT
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
And who else has said they dont like my admining other than you and Hobbes?
OMFGz0rs, you suck ass!
I hate your high activity!
I hate you constant helping n00bs w/ mages!
I hate how fune your quests are
You nub, why don't you do this server a favor and never LEAVE!!!!!
a$$... :P :P
Post by: Hollywood on July 23, 2004 04:50 pm CDT
Post by: -eViL- on July 23, 2004 05:05 pm CDT
If you can be a better admin than ozzy, you can stay on the server. If you can't, have particle remove your admin and leave the server and this online community.
Ozzy always had time to think twice no matter what the outcome of thinking twice was. He would let people die before he had his proof that the shover was really out to kill the player. He was the best admin the server ever had next to snails, and he always had time to think twice about what he was doing.
You on the other hand, Almighty Scrizaks, don't have time to think twice about your actions? So I take it you are a million times better admin that ozzy and snails?
Yea, thought so.
And don't ever tell me when Mandy is and isn't on the server. She has a life, she has a husband, and she has a little boy she loves enough to take care of very well. So if you ever want to make comments about Mandy or what she does in her life again, maybe you should try the new strategy of thinking twice. We all know Mandy very well, and we all respect what she has done and will do... just because she isn't around on the server doesn't mean you have free will to do whatever you want, nor does it mean that anything she has done in her past involving this community should be cleared from the records.
I know almost everyone agrees with me, just not you and a few others.
P.S. - To you let the oldbies speak for themselves comment. They have and always will speak for themselves, just because you are too much of a nub to have been around when they did doesn't mean they haven't. Darwin, Pecker, Icacer, Black-Ice, DragonX (not Xanth, Dragon played way back when), etc, etc, etc, etc have all spoken at one point or another about how much they prefered the server when I was there.
Post by: DeAtH-Abbadon on July 23, 2004 05:34 pm CDT
your done. leave.
dont post anything more unless you have something relevant to say.
-in my defense-
i only said one offensive word and it was mimicing hobbes, i wasnt continually using it either
and i didnt mug over the limit on anyone
and i shoved a person here and there but not anywhere near enough to kill anyone
if echojin tells me to stop something i would no question
Post by: Aeolian on July 23, 2004 05:49 pm CDT
hollywood has always been a whiny unsavory woman.
omg omg I got kicked and jailed for 15 min... *cries*
and who cares what pecker and lastwish would do? Pecker doesn't play anymore, and LW has always been too nice.
so.... gg
Post by: Hollywood on July 23, 2004 06:04 pm CDT
Post by: Aeolian on July 23, 2004 06:06 pm CDT
Post by: Gnight on July 23, 2004 06:55 pm CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
So Scrizaks, how do you feel about being the only one between us that broke any rules?
The whiny little unsavory woman known as Hollywood apperently forgot that admin's are above the rules. If the other admins can do what ever they want to you, why should you single Scrizaks out. You think you'r soo cool whining about how an admin breaking the rules with those shades on.
Post by: WolfTones on July 23, 2004 07:19 pm CDT
Post by: Taurik on July 23, 2004 07:28 pm CDT
Quote from: "Gnight"
The whiny little ***** known as Hollywood apperently forgot that admin's are above the rules. If the other admins can do what ever they want to you, why should you single Scrizaks out. You think you'r soo cool whining about how an admin breaking the rules with those shades on.
Are you still here?
And.....wow...... Gnight! I must say, I'm impressed, and you'd have to work pretty hard to do that. Firefox??? What made you switch to the better browser?
Post by: Hollywood on July 23, 2004 07:34 pm CDT
Quote from: "Taurik"
Quote from: "Gnight"The whiny little ***** known as Hollywood apperently forgot that admin's are above the rules. If the other admins can do what ever they want to you, why should you single Scrizaks out. You think you'r soo cool whining about how an admin breaking the rules with those shades on.
Are you still here?
And.....wow...... Gnight! I must say, I'm impressed, and you'd have to work pretty hard to do that. Firefox??? What made you switch to the better browser?
Admins are above the rules Particle gave them? Wow.
Post by: -eViL- on July 23, 2004 09:56 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
evil you truely are a real ass kisser man....hardly anyone here likes you, hell, i'm probally move liked than you are. He didn't say anything wrong about pecker, he just said she doesn't come on anymore, Why the fuk are you bringing up her child and her husband and her life, were talking about her not logging on to a game very often and your bringing her personal life into all this just to make yourself look respectfull but really everyone only sees you as a huge dick sucker ass liking bastard, you clearly don't like this place, so LEAVE NOW...GOODBYE!!
apparently you are truely ignorant. Pecker's personal life is one of her main reasons for not logging into tribes. She has barely had any time to do anything let alone play games, but I guess someone's child and life would give you all the time in the world to do whatever you want.
And yes, he did say something wrong about pecker, he said in oh so many words that her entire history here as admin is worth dick because she hasn't logged on in a long time. That is a very disrespectful thing to say towards any good admin.
and celtic, if i am unliked, why do people not post it? everyone her has posted a billion flames towards you and yet you stay, whereas there hasn't been many outright actions of the such towards me.
Post by: DeAtH-Abbadon on July 23, 2004 10:37 pm CDT
evil you need to leave this thread and stop spamming your worthless opinion.
Post by: Gnight on July 23, 2004 10:45 pm CDT
Quote from: "Taurik"
Quote from: "Gnight"The whiny little ***** known as Hollywood apperently forgot that admin's are above the rules. If the other admins can do what ever they want to you, why should you single Scrizaks out. You think you'r soo cool whining about how an admin breaking the rules with those shades on.
Are you still here?
And.....wow...... Gnight! I must say, I'm impressed, and you'd have to work pretty hard to do that. Firefox??? What made you switch to the better browser?
How the fork would you know what broswer i'm useing?
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 11:08 pm CDT
Also, I'm sure the oldbies all agree with you about the server because theres only a few. Most of them actually found a life and something to do after they left the game. Either that, or they got a new character. They didn't stay at the forums. I'd understand if they did it to a game that had more people playing, or had better quality... but all the oldbies that stick around the forums just makes no sense to me at all.
I dont think the oldbies that dont even play really have a say in the matter... considering they know nothing about me, and they have never seen me in game.
Post by: Hollywood on July 23, 2004 11:12 pm CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
At least defend YOUR actions, since mine were legal. You broke the rules bub, and you should pay for it. Mithrandir and Gnarus also say you are a bad admin 8)
Post by: LastWish on July 23, 2004 11:17 pm CDT
If echojin did something wrong, so be it.. nobody is perfect, and i'm sure he will think twice about his future decisions instead of jailing without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
Post by: Taurik on July 23, 2004 11:29 pm CDT
Quote from: "Gnight"
How the f*** would you know what broswer i'm useing?
Hax.exe!!11! omgzz
Post by: Scrizaks on July 23, 2004 11:33 pm CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
At least defend YOUR actions, since mine were legal. You broke the rules bub, and you should pay for it.If you still think I need to defend my actions.... you haven't been reading my posts seeing as how that's all i've been doing. So I broke a rule... someone punish me. Particle? Have any say in this?
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Mithrandir and Gnarus also say you are a bad adminMithrandir and Gnarus? awesome... since their opinions matter... Gnarus has never played while i've been admin, and Mithrandir has only played once which was for a short while and didnt say anything.
Post by: Aeolian on July 24, 2004 01:18 am CDT
Orb sucks.
mod players.. ugh. >_<
Post by: Jonah on July 24, 2004 01:21 am CDT
Post by: Hollywood on July 24, 2004 01:37 am CDT
Post by: WolfTones on July 24, 2004 05:50 am CDT
Post by: GE on July 24, 2004 07:23 am CDT
Quote from: "Taurik"
Quote from: "Gnight"How the f*** would you know what broswer i'm useing?
Hax.exe!!11! omgzz
I can always count on Taurik for a laugh at 8:22 AM
How did Mandy (pecker) get into this conversation¿
Post by: WolfTones on July 24, 2004 07:29 am CDT
Post by: Scrizaks on July 24, 2004 05:32 pm CDT
Post by: GE on July 24, 2004 06:47 pm CDT
Post by: WolfTones on July 24, 2004 06:50 pm CDT
Quote from: "GE"
I wasnt arguing. I was asking a simple question. i wasnt goona post harsh statement that would cause another dispute.
What the fuk is that suposed to mean!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GE on July 24, 2004 06:58 pm CDT
Post by: Scrizaks on July 24, 2004 07:01 pm CDT
Post by: WolfTones on July 24, 2004 07:03 pm CDT
Quote from: "GE"
It means i wanted to know how Mandy got into this conversation. I wasnt going to post again on the matter.
It was a JOKE....I didn't think I'd have to tell you that lol.
Post by: Aphex on July 25, 2004 06:03 pm CDT
Quote
Then a few weeks ago LW talked to Particle (as well as myself) about getting a new server admin, and so Particle gave me permission to have admin in the server
I just want to point out that when I had a converstation with Particle he did not know who you were and that you had admin. It may have changed in the few weeks that I didnt have internet, but as far as I know he has no clue who you are and you are still admining without permission. Which you told me you were not going to do.
I dont think it's right that you think you can take it upon yourself to be an 'admin' just because you think the current admins are not doing a good job. The reason that I dont play as much is because I just moved to another state leaving me with no internet for a few weeks. I've been on this server for a lot longer than most so it's not a big deal if im not on everyday to make you happy.
As far as im concerned getting more admins means for trouble. Particle has a group of people that he trusts. And if he feels the need to get other people then he will. It is not up to anyone else (no matter how much they think it is) to give out admin or accept it under false terms.
And im not talking malarkey on anyone. Im just trying to protect what particle has built. And what he still works to keep going for everyone. People think that they can take if over just because he's not arround as much as you want him to be. But it's not yours. It's a free service provided to you to have fun with. not to sit and unsavory woman and moan about everyday.
Post by: WolfTones on July 25, 2004 07:05 pm CDT
Post by: Scrizaks on July 25, 2004 10:47 pm CDT
Post by: Aphex on July 25, 2004 11:07 pm CDT
btw. hollywood wins this one. sorry
Post by: Aeolian on July 26, 2004 12:15 am CDT
Hollywood loses, sorry.
As for scriz.. proving himself as a good admin, I haven't seen you(Kat) doing anything as an admin.. except giving hand outs to friends. Before anyone jumps to her defence, giving out a bunch of crap to be liked, or because the admin is sick of getting begged, is not good admining.
Post by: DeAtH-Abbadon on July 26, 2004 12:23 am CDT
Post by: LastWish on July 26, 2004 09:33 am CDT
Post by: -eViL- on July 26, 2004 02:54 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
Nothing against Holly, but I was in the server incognito and witnessed Hobbes and the things he has been saying, and it wasn't pretty. Aphex, if you saw what he was saying, he would have been kicked if he wasn't in Orb.. I know that you have a strong dislike for people using homosexual terms as an insult, and Hobbes was spouting it out left and right. I know they are just words, but he knows G3 hates that and he just kept doing it anyways.. he should be a lot more mature than to do something like that. There really is no cause for him to do something like that.
whats the difference anymore lw? there are so many people using g3 that you can't justify that. is g3 even still using the character? is it even the real g3 he was insulting? more often than not the answer is no, it is ziros and a few others. so you can't claim g3 hates that because the real g3 is gone.
Post by: Ziros Suntol on July 26, 2004 02:59 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
it is ziros and a few others....
HEY!!!! Captain-Ignorant!!!!!
I am the ONLY owner of G3 as of a few weeks ago and you can sure-as-hell bet Hobbes know's EXACTLY who he is fuking with. Thought i could care less if he messes with G3 because he can't do anything to warrent concern. I DO, however, care if he messes with Ziros, a much lower Char than him.
Post by: -eViL- on July 26, 2004 03:07 pm CDT
Quote from: "Ziros Suntol"
Quote from: "-eViL-"it is ziros and a few others....
HEY!!!! Captain-Ignorant!!!!!
I am the ONLY owner of G3 as of a few weeks ago and you can sure-as-hell bet Hobbes know's EXACTLY who he is fuking with. Thought i could care less if he messes with G3 because he can't do anything to warrent concern. I DO, however, care if he messes with Ziros, a much lower Char than him.
Sorry I don't follow the ownership change of "G3", that character has had more owners than a mine settlement hooker.
a much lower character than him.... hmm... sounds like a noob talking. "omgz he killed me!!!!" just because you are a lower character doesn't mean you should lower yourself to using 2 characters to protect yourself. that is just dishonest bull malarkey. go take some dueling lessons from kenshin sometime.... he can prove to you that a lower character can be worth more than higher character if you aren't nub and know what you are doing.
hmm.... i just realized from LW's post..... - Just because Hobbes is an Orb member shouldn't restrict him from being jailed, kicked, begged, or temporarily banned. It should actually insight a punishment to happen. Wouldn't the people that are dedicated Orb members view his actions as an open disgrace to his tag had he had it on at the time? I dunno, just a thought.
Post by: DeAtH-Abbadon on July 26, 2004 03:25 pm CDT
Post by: Hollywood on July 26, 2004 03:30 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
Nothing against Holly, but I was in the server incognito and witnessed Hobbes and the things he has been saying, and it wasn't pretty. Aphex, if you saw what he was saying, he would have been kicked if he wasn't in Orb.. I know that you have a strong dislike for people using homosexual terms as an insult, and Hobbes was spouting it out left and right. I know they are just words, but he knows G3 hates that and he just kept doing it anyways.. he should be a lot more mature than to do something like that. There really is no cause for him to do something like that.
When is the last time you have ever heard me say something like that? I only did it to prove a point. I know fully well what the word means, have a homosexual friend that alot of you know, and have been against that word for a long time. I guarantee NONE of you have EVER heard me say that word to anyone else EVER. And LW, you must have been using admin powers or something because it was all in local where very few people, such as Ziros, could hear it.
Post by: -eViL- on July 26, 2004 03:37 pm CDT
Quote from: "DeAtH-Abbadon"
here comes evil, back to start another fight with poorly constructed arguments!
dude, what the fork, i was stating 2 points that are very factual and you post that? take a forking hike nub.
Post by: Hollywood on July 26, 2004 03:54 pm CDT
Post by: WolfTones on July 26, 2004 04:15 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
Quote from: "DeAtH-Abbadon"here comes evil, back to start another fight with poorly constructed arguments!
dude, what the f***, i was stating 2 points that are very factual and you post that? take a f*** hike nub.
evil why don't you be "cool" like the other "cool" guys and leave, never come back, Play with traffic lights or something, DO SOMETHING BUT JUST LEAVE HERE!!!
Post by: Ziros Suntol on July 26, 2004 05:46 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
hey scrizaks, don't ever dis hollywood. you can back the f*** off what you believe he did. I have known Hollywood for a hell of a lot longer than you have.
Quote from: "Hollywood"
You should be the one to take a f*** hike bastard.
Amazing how friends will stab you in the back, eh eViL
Just used it to 'prove a point' huh?
And what point would that be?
What logic is there in calling me a fag if you are SOOOO compationate for your gay 'BOYfriend'
So, just stfu and go on with your pathetic life.
Post by: Scrizaks on July 26, 2004 10:50 pm CDT
Stop posting here.
Post by: LastWish on July 27, 2004 02:48 am CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Quote from: "LastWish"Nothing against Holly, but I was in the server incognito and witnessed Hobbes and the things he has been saying, and it wasn't pretty. Aphex, if you saw what he was saying, he would have been kicked if he wasn't in Orb.. I know that you have a strong dislike for people using homosexual terms as an insult, and Hobbes was spouting it out left and right. I know they are just words, but he knows G3 hates that and he just kept doing it anyways.. he should be a lot more mature than to do something like that. There really is no cause for him to do something like that.
When is the last time you have ever heard me say something like that? I only did it to prove a point. I know fully well what the word means, have a homosexual friend that alot of you know, and have been against that word for a long time. I guarantee NONE of you have EVER heard me say that word to anyone else EVER. And LW, you must have been using admin powers or something because it was all in local where very few people, such as Ziros, could hear it.
Using that language isn't needed to prove a damn thing, and you know that. Way to back eViL up, too. He stuck up for you, and you turn around and tell him to take a forking hike.