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Title: Official Mass Clear Vote
Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 05:29 pm CDT
Well..  after seeing so many people for it, I thought an official vote would be at hand.  There are a few speculations for this poll, so READ THIS BEFORE YOU VOTE.

1. If you don't play the server, please don't vote.. feel free to voice your opinion though.  If you plan on playing the server if it clears, feel free to vote yes..

2. After voting, reply with what you voted, why you voted it, and if you would quit or not.  This is important, because the most active players will have the most say with their vote.

3. If you have any ideas regarding the dust system, or the God system, please share.

Here is why I feel it should be reset (I vote yes).  

1.  The economy problem speaks for itself..  everyone and his dog has a billion coins, which is allowing people to remort insanely fast, ultimately ruining the game for all the newbies.

2. A lot of characters have been hacked, or are blackscreened..  a clear would negate any problems there.

3. People may quit, but the people who enjoy playing the game for what it is will stay.  Also, this will bring in a lot of new people because they won't have to worry about high remort level assholes.

4. If a clear should happen, admins will be much more careful when giving quest prizes.  This will also make quests easier and more applicable to all players, since there won't be such a huge RL difference.

5. Starting over is fun!

If you disagree with something that someone says, don't turn it into a flame war..  simply state why you think they are wrong and move on.  I'll be guarding this thread for un-needed spam, so don't even try it.
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 16, 2004 05:31 pm CDT
Yes because I know people who would come back.  :roll:
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Post by: Razore on August 16, 2004 05:33 pm CDT
1) No.
2) Starting over isnt fun.
3) Its a little soon for a clear, isnt it? The last "GREAT CLEAR" was after like we had 30 gods and a remort 300+(eViL)
4) The more you clear it, the more people will find ways to exploit it to get their stuff back, (ie. people find way to dupe coins so they can have the same coins they had before)
5) Starting over is fun IF YOURE AN ADMIN.

Still thinking of a 5.

Yay.
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 05:36 pm CDT
I voted Yes....

It gives me a reason to quit tribes....
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Post by: LostRelic on August 16, 2004 05:37 pm CDT
No. The only thing that should be cleared in this game is the money, I wouldn't quit, I'd still continue to play, but, money seems to be the problem. All the money somehow came from someones account, such as the account PseudoMessiah, one of achros old char, before the new owner of pesuedomessiah quit, he handed out 10 billion to friends. Money seems to be causing the problem.

The dust, it should no longer be magical and throw you up into the air, I still see people doing it when told not to do it. And overall dusting should completely be removed.

For all the players rl 50 and up, it should be twice as hard to level for them as it is for a rl 0 - 49. As seen in the server, particle raised the max exp given to a player. Well, maybe max exp should be kept until rl 50, and then it converts back to regular exp.

Also, as said in another post, the rl to obtain god should be raised, and like I said, you could even make it 3 times as hard to get there. Such as doubling the skill to get there, instead of 300 skill for a battle axe, they'd need 600 or so. Instead of 3500 hp at level 1, they'd have 500 hp at level 1.
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Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 05:38 pm CDT
Those are good ideas, but they don't address the problem at hand.  Money isn't the only problem..  there are already a LOT of high remort people who don't deserve to be there.
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 05:39 pm CDT
Maybe....


Everyone as a GOD should be set back to RL 10

Everyone as RL 50-20 Should be set back to RL 7

Everyone RL 20-10 should be set back to 5

WIth a mass Money Clear and old EXP system
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Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 05:41 pm CDT
The old EXP system is too easy..  people will get to God even faster that way.  I like your idea about setting the remorts back, but that would require a bunch of work from Particle.  A full clear sounds more reasonable to me..  besides, why let the high remorts stay higher than everyone else?  This is about evening the playing field.
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 05:41 pm CDT
Thanks Harry
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Post by: LostRelic on August 16, 2004 05:42 pm CDT
Another suggestion adding to mine, is that there should be a clearing of RP. People powerrank over and over again. Everyones RP should be cleared.
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Whats the point of having a god class then, there shouldn't be one, Like the max is level 174 for someone who isn't a god, lets say, every 5 rls the max level is raised. rl 5 - 175, and so on and so fourth.
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Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 05:44 pm CDT
It would be much easier to clear totally rather than pick little things to reset..  that would be way too much work for Particle to have to do.  If we do a mass clear, there wil be nothing that we forgot about.
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Post by: LostRelic on August 16, 2004 05:49 pm CDT
This vote should also be brought into the server during gameplay, to notify other players of it, not everyone in the server is on this forum. I'm sure other players would like to have a part in this also.
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Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 05:52 pm CDT
I plan on it when the server comes back up :D
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Post by: LostRelic on August 16, 2004 05:52 pm CDT
Good girl  :)
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 16, 2004 05:53 pm CDT
Put old exp system back, if there a mass clear you wouldn't get there fast.
Have no quests give over 500 exp, or 20 SP. No luck be given out or RP.
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Post by: LostRelic on August 16, 2004 05:54 pm CDT
Yeah, some quests can get you a full remort, which is pretty insane if your trying to lower the ammount of remorts..
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 05:54 pm CDT
I vote yes.

1. Less people, Some might quit. Less people = less lag and less problems
2. It is alot more challenging when you don't have people to just give you money
3. Hope fully there won't be 1 person using 5,6 even 7 different characters
4. It might bring back some of the old people from before the clear =)
5. I will play hardcore again. *sigh* the good old playing 20 hours straight and getting 4 hours sleep.
6. Less complaints about mugging, mimic killing and all the other stuff with high lvls involved
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Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 06:03 pm CDT
If we got rid of the new EXP system, people would hit god much more quickly than this time around.  Even without the money..  and then when people DO hit god, it will take them no time to reach 1500.

Reverting to the old EXP system would negate the coin problem we have now..  people would be able to level just as fast.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 06:08 pm CDT
I like the New EXP system. It makes it all the more challenging.
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Post by: Aphex on August 16, 2004 06:21 pm CDT
I voted yes

for all the reasons stated already. I would like to point out something LW said.

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4. If a clear should happen, admins will be much more careful when giving quest prizes. This will also make quests easier and more applicable to all players, since there won't be such a huge RL difference.



The main problem with quests now is the fact that you cant make one the works for all levls. If you make a difficult one with good prizes all the newbies complain that it's too hard. And if you make a easy one with not so good prizes the high levels complain that it's too easy.

The main reason I dont do a quest everytime someone asks me is because every single time I do one I get tons of people telling me how bad it was or that they wanted more stuff. or they didnt get anything.  People seem to forget the meaning of quest. You know something you have to work for? To get the prize you need to work.


A clear would make it so that everyone was equal.  So we would all be starting out at the same place. and if there was a clear. I would play my character the right way.  Not giving it any admin help.  I've been wanting to play alongside everyone for a while. its boring being a god.  And I think that soon alot of gods are going to start thinking that way too. Ultimatly leading to them leaving.

I also think that god status should be pushed up to remort 200.
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Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 06:26 pm CDT
Yeah.. I'd play a legit character as well.  I would most likely only be using admin to make sure the server was running smoothly, and maybe a quest every now and then, but I wouldn't consider myself the questmaster.  I feel as though I might have over-done quest prizes a tad, but I won't make that mistake again.
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Post by: Aphex on August 16, 2004 06:33 pm CDT
yeah that's how i feel  too. I never know if what im giving out is good enough. And the main problem is people telling me my prizes are crappy.
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Post by: GStricto on August 16, 2004 06:34 pm CDT
I agree with the mass clear.  I'm getting tired of assholes like *cough*CaptainPlanet*cough* who all of the sudden get their character back with 17 or however many free remorts, then think they are the best thing since sliced bread.  (Don't argue, you know it was a really good idea.)

Everyone seems to find money and stealing such a problem.  As I have said before, LonkTheSane and I are working on the mod to fix stuff like that.  Our one problem was that we don't have a host.  The day I showed the mod to Part, he seemed to really like some of the changes.  If Part would host it, a clear would be required to set the stats the way they need to be for characters.  I know Aphex and GE have already seen some of what we have done, and they both seemed to really enjoy the new things/ideas.

That is just my 2 cents worth...

Oh, and I have a belly button.
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Post by: Aphex on August 16, 2004 06:37 pm CDT
Quote from: "GStricto"
I agree with the mass clear.  I'm getting tired of assholes like *cough*CaptainPlanet*cough* who all of the sudden get their character back with 17 or however many free remorts, then think they are the best thing since sliced bread.  (Don't argue, you know it was a really good idea.)

Everyone seems to find money and stealing such a problem.  As I have said before, LonkTheSane and I are working on the mod to fix stuff like that.  Our one problem was that we don't have a host.  The day I showed the mod to Part, he seemed to really like some of the changes.  If Part would host it, a clear would be required to set the stats the way they need to be for characters.  I know Aphex and GE have already seen some of what we have done, and they both seemed to really enjoy the new things/ideas.

That is just my 2 cents worth...

Oh, and I have a belly button.


yeah your mod is nice. we could really use some changes like that around particles..
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 06:39 pm CDT
Way to go Ms.Potter
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Post by: Sinister on August 16, 2004 06:46 pm CDT
I voted yes.  No reason really.  My bots will work just as well at rl 0 174 as at rl 55 174.  They will just die easier.
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Post by: Jonah on August 16, 2004 06:50 pm CDT
I voted yes for pretty much the same reasons Last said.
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 07:00 pm CDT
I say....

Old Exp System, No more Money, No RP, and No forking Quests where u get 3248739 Lvls....
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 07:19 pm CDT
You don't play Jonah. or do you?
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Post by: Crash on August 16, 2004 07:22 pm CDT
I vote yes. I haven't been in the server nearly as much as I used to be, but I feel my two cents are still worth something.... like two cents or so. A clear will never fix cheating. Ever. If anything it will require some responsiblity from the admins. You are gonna have to keep an eye on people and find out who in fact is the one starting all the cheating.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 07:27 pm CDT
Quote from: "Crash"
I vote yes. I haven't been in the server nearly as much as I used to be, but I feel my two cents are still worth something.... like two cents or so. A clear will never fix cheating. Ever. If anything it will require some responsiblity from the admins. You are gonna have to keep an eye on people and find out who in fact is the one starting all the cheating.


With the cheating. I would find some people who you can trust and play often and just take them to the side (metiforically) and ask them to keep an eye out. That way it isn't people cheating while admins aren't there. Cause obviously people aren't gonna cheat while you are there. So like PM them on the forums or #tell them within the game. Than just give them an e-mail to reach you at. Just MAKE SURE YOU CAN TRUST em. Nothing worse than having one of your spys cheating.
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Post by: Jonah on August 16, 2004 07:33 pm CDT
I do play.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 07:34 pm CDT
Under what name? I have never seen Jonah
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Post by: Jonah on August 16, 2004 07:35 pm CDT
-Lcer- if it gets fixed.
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Post by: Sinister on August 16, 2004 07:38 pm CDT
Well here is my 2 cents. Clear the server, everyone starts over, Admins do routine checks on players for cash and rare items.  If excessive amounts are found, log ip, clear cash and items, and put that character on a watch list, if it occurs again, take items and cash and give warning, if it happens a third time, ban ip.  It takes 1 minute to check a player's bank and storage, if I had admin I would make this part of my daily routine.  Maybe even make a spreadsheet of everyone's names and have a schedule for doing it.  Admins spend alot of time doing quests (which they should) but they should also spend a comparable amount of time on server maintenance.  As a great man once said "With great power comes great responsibility".  

~SIN~
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Post by: UnderGod on August 16, 2004 07:51 pm CDT
It didn't work the first time, what makes you think it will work again? All the suggestions are exactly the same as they were before. It is almost a complete repeat of before with the exception of maybe me.

This game engine is a decade old. Tribes has had it run. TRPG has had its run. PCRPG has had its run.

It would take more effort than any decent coder that still has the nag for being around here has to offer for this. I hate to put it bluntly (Wait, no I don't. I put everything bluntly) but it is over.

HL2 will be out soon along with T:V. Just like the previous games in the series, they will be the cookie cutters for modding. If anyone seriously insists on creating a decent FPS RPG, there is a lot to consider. I know personally because I have been through the routein many times. Even Particle and I together have. You wouldn't believe some of the ideas we have come up with in the past.

It takes a lot of thought, patience, and time to make a decent mod. Even more so an RPG. No matter what I say though, you would never understand exactly what I am talking about untill you have gone through what Particle and I have.

Ok.. I'm going off topic now. These 19 hour days will really throw you out the sanity window.
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Post by: Razore on August 16, 2004 07:52 pm CDT
Or you could make a program that can record/log it for you.

All you need to do is go ingame, and

exec("bankcheck.cs");

(Sorry if I forgot how to type commands in console x_x)

and then once you run it once, it will run once every hour as long as youre on, and log it for you in an easy-to-read format.

Shouldnt be too hard for the people we've got here.
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Post by: Sinister on August 16, 2004 07:53 pm CDT
Hmmmm....didn't even think of that.
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 08:02 pm CDT
Ozzys right....

Tribes is dead... and sucks dick... so does Harry Potter...
Title: A bigger perspective in-observation
Post by: Talliun on August 16, 2004 08:32 pm CDT
Community,

First off, I don't currently play on the server, but I have previous understandings of how the community becomes flat-water after "X" amount of time.

The biggest importance we need at PCRPG is innovation and coupled with that; a sense of scale, organization, integration and acceleration.

I think the concept of starting over, and ways of making the "goal" of getting to higher levels and remorts needs to be reworked - and it doesnt take much except the community. Currently we have means of only delaying the leveling process by restarts, more EXP required per level, and delaying the remort "god" status.

See one of the main factors behind the RPG in itself, is you just level, and level; occasionally the small things that alter you from this structure are the things people come to enjoy. I dont know if this can be said for everyone, but I think its a bigger factor than expected.

Or it is at least one that is hidden, and isn't approached because it attacks the foundations as a whole.

Are there solutions? Well we can look at these points of interest after a new slate is issued. These are possible remedies to an already complex question.

INNOVATION - The original creators behind the TRPG modification left many areas of the game to be carried on by smaller groups dedicated to this style of gaming. This door was left to carry on the vitality and integrity of the game, long after the initial areas were exhausted (replayability taken into light). So the system in itself is already flawed from the start, without constant appreciation for innovation. Now in order to keeps this small scale instead of massive coding in an already aged and elder community - all which is needed, is creative imaginations.

How?

Administrators, peacekeepers and quest masters need to look at new solutions regarding constantly changing environments. Quests are the answer; and quite a few of them. It doesn't need to become a factory assembly line of "hot-off-the-press" global quests. Quests dotted around week to week, will entice gamers to come out for another round. These quests will require the creative minds behind Particle's administration staff. That is where innovation is the key. Too much of the same, or too much blandness in the quests will be another trouble inside of this one. Quests should be built around the player, not around the administrators or a weekly quota. This brings us to our next point.

SENSE OF SCALE  Its important that the quests and stories are revolving around the players. They should aim to be coherent and have a sense of immersion - drop the player into them. Example; Snails sees a pair of melee combatants, both are paladins and low in level. From there Snails could go ahead and try and mask a quest strictly around them [buildings, background story, quest dialogue, monsters, rewards etc.]. Using all the tricks of the questing books, you could have yourself a very immersive quest. If you want an example after this, I can give one out.

The main importance is making sure that the quest masters are getting to individuals needs and niche, as opposed to just getting their job done. The goal isnt to do quests when requested by need or want, but to make an observation and decide what is best. Quest masters are also encouraged to enter themselves even into the quest, as either NPC or one of the quest bearers.

But it then borders confusing at such levels of customization. How can we possibly keep track of so many iotas?

ORGANIZATION Task managing such a demanding community is no easy task, and quest masters will have themselves in a strenuous state. A game is no fun when it becomes a task, rather than a digital escape. People apart of the administration team should look into ways of organizing amongst themselves in a manner that is practical and reasonable to carry out quests (and all their inner workings such as world events, player-built quests, tournaments, fun games etc.). Such resolutions could be the use of this board and outside messengers. In addition, having a microphone chat installed to discuss things in real-time as the server evolves is another likelihood.

Administrators should get in the concept of working peer-to-peer with their buddies to reason out some fresh ideas. Working together to make a network of tangible and workable schedules helps others apart of the team feel like theyre involved for a good cause. The people apart of this system should feel like theyre truly working to enhance the community. They will be the sparks that continue to ignite the ongoing bonfire.

But we want to hold that sense of perspective and balance between the administrators and the folks comprising the server  so it doesnt ever seem like there are two spheres of influence going on  but in theory a single nexus. This moves us into point # 4

INTEGRATION We need to make sure that both levels of the server are inter-meshed into a living and breathing apparatus. Whats that mean?

We want to make sure that the administrators are apart of their own creations and stories  and we also want the players to take a stride into bringing back to the origin new ideas, an appreciation, and a feeling of correspondence.

We want to have a parallel world, where the administrators are really the people, and the people are really the administrators. Holy hell, does this even make sense?

Strongly YES, and strongly NO it depends on YOU!

This has to do with continual feedback from everyone (administration and players) to improve the constant innovation in swing. The sense of integration is further boosted when the administrators dont use their powers to break this sense of unity. Administration players should try and level alongside their buddies in the server. Quests should be honoring the communities server economy, therefore keeping equilibrium amongst all rank of players. Quest rewards should also take into consideration areas of relation between the quest and the players stats. Once again it directly falls back on other points mentioned. Furthermore this is all said and done with the community, and how it acts. This then brings us to our finale insight of this observation.

ACCELERATION People are waiting, they always have ideas, people are always giving critiques, and people are always observing and lurking with new ways of improvement. Administrators are always contemplating what should be done, who to listen to or where to turn. There is always a system at work here. But what we fail to do sometimes is act on it.

What we need is to work on the basis that the community needs to act or move forward to new grounds. Are there flaws with the servers? Yes and no. Are there solutions? Yes and no. But are we moving to meet these questions? Maybe.

And thats my final point. There are many directions this can be taken, but which one are we ultimately accelerating too?

We can start fresh with some new ideas and of course the continued development of the community  but we need to bring into life a new sense of innovation and co-existence.

No one said this was going to be straightforward at first  but it can be. ;-)

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Closing Statements & Others Concerns:
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On God System and Dust Quest  these are fine and offer some other mechanics, as long as they are joined with the other hand of these servers  the quests. Of course in a balanced economy, and rewards that dont corrupt the community too quickly, these quests will be fine in the long-run. People who become high-in-remort should have ways of becoming involved through quests and the community  other than continually leveling. Even with all the quests and this system people will eventually get to the same end of the road in the leveling. There are many options for these people too, that can become involved with even the lower remorts in many unique ways. Just ask if you want some ideas out of the hat. One is using those houses/guilds.
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Signed,

Talliun

PS: If we dont think PCRPG of Tribes I is salvageable, perhaps we can keep this in mind for new beginnings with PCRPG in T:V
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 08:34 pm CDT
It is over for some. It is just begining for others, but for the dedicated population it is continuing.

Ozzy, It may be over for you. Your choice. Though it is old, it is still fun. Atleast for some of us. So there for there are some of us who play and is not done. Aslong as there are a few who play.

As for you Jim, shut the hell up. Atleast Ozzy was kind enough to put it politely but the what you said was not needed.
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Post by: Jonah on August 16, 2004 08:35 pm CDT
Normally I don't mind reading long posts.. but I'm not going to read all that now =P

Maybe later.
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Post by: LastWish on August 16, 2004 08:41 pm CDT
Spam this thread with useless flames and insults and i'll do more than delete your posts.  (you know who you are)
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 08:42 pm CDT
Sorry Harry Potter.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 08:43 pm CDT
wow. You did that fast :P
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Post by: Corona on August 16, 2004 08:46 pm CDT
I vote no. And I really doubt that I would have to explain why.
Title: As the road continues..
Post by: Talliun on August 16, 2004 08:50 pm CDT
Howdy,

Well after some people have read through and digested my post (sorry I had to get it all out). I mean, that is what we wanted right?

Ideas. Input. Observation. Analysis. Improvement. Concepts.

I have placed mine, input?

Signed,

Talliun
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Post by: Aphex on August 16, 2004 08:58 pm CDT
you know a game is old when they just give it away.

I've been playing for a while now and it hasnt gotten old yet. I started out playing shifter and annihilation. then found rpg. I dont play rpg so much for the game, but more for the community. Its something to do with your friends that is fun.  many of you move on and play other games but this is pretty much the only game I play.
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Post by: UnderGod on August 16, 2004 09:03 pm CDT
No.. It is sad that a good game to people in this era is one large chatroom. What actually happens in the game doesn't matter. You get your "strong" characters and pout when they loose something.

I just lost enough uniques in D2 to make Blizzard cry such as a BOTD, Stormshield ect. Yeah I was a little dissapointed in it, but I went on.

I know every day I have to wake up at 5 in the morning to go to work and not get back home untill 11 that night. That is reality. Do I need a game to make up for lost time? I have actually found in the recent months that reading books or doing research can be quite entertaining aside from its great payoffs.

Everything has deminishing returns at some point. Though I can safely say that in the past few months I have felt better about my life than I ever have in the past when I played games to escape reality.
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Post by: Jim on August 16, 2004 09:08 pm CDT
Just get Shadow Master or Jamellas....
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Post by: Talliun on August 16, 2004 09:28 pm CDT
Ozzy,

You've sort of escalated this to another plateau outside the original scope of the discussion. Not that's bad or anything, but its probably putting too many things on the table. We dont want to collapse the discussion with new OT issues.

Youre looking at the gaming community in general and how it directly related to your life, and how it may be the same story for others. Reality versus a digital world, and where they are defined or what substance they really have in comparison.

Your logic and points are all valid though; just it seems that the connection between your points and what were at least trying to gather here today are loosely connected or self-applicable.

For some people, once they like a community they stick through it, it becomes an alternate world. And like in the real world, everyone has their own sense of how they fit in. I mean here, and right now  there are still people looking for solutions.

You have thoughts of apathy right now; you just think that its dead based on your surroundings. As long as people believe there is something credible here, they will continue to push the barriers and try and improve. This is fine, a balance is basic fundamental.

Hey, who knows, youre maybe right in some ways, but I think its good that we can come together here and sort out some ideas. Maybe we can take something from this and apply it to some other mod communities.

Signed,

Talliun
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Post by: Particle on August 16, 2004 09:44 pm CDT
Double exp makes this leveling system a lot easier.
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Post by: Jonah on August 16, 2004 09:57 pm CDT
Particle, the owl hoots at midnight.
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 16, 2004 10:24 pm CDT
Quote from: "Corona"
I vote no. And I really doubt that I would have to explain why.
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Post by: Scrizaks on August 16, 2004 10:47 pm CDT
I voted yes because the server went to hell.

Also... I think starting over would be hilarious to see all the little baby newblets running around dying all over the place.
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Post by: -eViL- on August 16, 2004 10:50 pm CDT
Quote from: "DeadBreed"
Quote from: "Corona"
I vote no. And I really doubt that I would have to explain why.

explain it or it means nothing in the end.

Quote from: "Scrizaks"
I voted yes because the server went to hell.

Also... I think starting over would be hilarious to see all the little baby newblets running around dying all over the place.


someone strip the newblet of his admin so we can all watch him run around and die.
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Post by: Corona on August 16, 2004 11:24 pm CDT
Quote from: "-eViL-"
explain it or it means nothing in the end.


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I cannot believe that you would even ask me to do this. But since you have: I voted No because voting Yes would help to bring about a process that would strip me of my pcrpg characters and their money + items. And afterwards, before I could even begin to rebuild my own post-clear character, I'd have to remake my healbot char.

I'm eccentric perhaps -- but I'm not insane. That is the reason I voted No.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 16, 2004 11:31 pm CDT
The clear would be great. It would involve alot more skill to level up. without people having billions of coins. It would be great!
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Post by: KoRo on August 16, 2004 11:37 pm CDT
i agree with floppy. it would force people to get along or get out. I quit cuz i found the game to be meaningless with all the above people, plus the fact that i have 5mil coins and it didnt get me anywhere. Plus the fact that I had to start over more than once. I voted for clear, and if there is one, I will definately come back.
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Post by: villman420 on August 17, 2004 12:09 am CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
It didn't work the first time, what makes you think it will work again? All the suggestions are exactly the same as they were before. It is almost a complete repeat of before with the exception of maybe me.

This game engine is a decade old. Tribes has had it run. TRPG has had its run. PCRPG has had its run.

HL2 will be out soon along with T:V


i voted no b/c like ozzy said, tribes is getting old. what isnt tribes 6 years old now? t:v is almost out and if u clear now i think uill lose more people than u really think you will. yea the close people of the server might stay but how many is that 15? this server prob has over 200 chars that play alot. and how many gods kept playing and made god again after the last clear?

i know after super tvt got cleared for peep cheating, all of the high players     including me didnt think it was worth it to play anymore and quit.

i think clearing everyone is a little to far fetch.  i think a money clear is a good idea and maybe adding more admins which will prevent players from cheating when admin arent on.
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 17, 2004 12:12 am CDT
i just got back up to my normal levels after i got partly tricked into remorting...  if theres gonna be a clear at least dont let it be any time soon...
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Post by: Hollywood on August 17, 2004 12:21 am CDT
Maybe you suggesting money clear don't quite get it... A great deal of illegit money has already been turned into illegit remorts. Most of the God characters don't deserve it and many high remorts shouldn't have them either. We need a total wipe.
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Post by: Nittmo on August 17, 2004 12:32 am CDT
I vote yes for all the reasons Last Wish posted
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 17, 2004 12:40 am CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Maybe you suggesting money clear don't quite get it... A great deal of illegit money has already been turned into illegit remorts. Most of the God characters don't deserve it and many high remorts shouldn't have them either. We need a total wipe.


That is a very good point. But who are you? Like on the server?
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Post by: LastWish on August 17, 2004 01:06 am CDT
To those of you who think tribes is a dead game..

It may be dead to you, but there are a lot of us who enjoy the community and what tribes still has to offer.  Call it old fashioned..  call it not wanting to buy a $1000 computer to play the latest games.. call it whatever you want!  We are still here, and we still want to play..
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Post by: JayJay on August 17, 2004 01:12 am CDT
True Dat.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 17, 2004 01:21 am CDT
LOL.... some of us don't even have $200 dollar computers :P
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Post by: HUBBA on August 17, 2004 01:41 am CDT
I vote yes, because of all the trouble that is going on in the server. If people leave, then they leave, that is there choice. You can't make everyone happy.
 
1. We have tried to fix the money situation in the game and it has not worked, people are not willing to give it up. They stash it with an unknown character when Admins or PK are not on. By clearing the whole server this would solve a great deal of that problem.

2. I think there was a good idea earlier, (can't remember who brought it up) to fix the dusting problem by adding the teleport at the dust house, like Minotaur's Lair is set up.

3. I also think that maybe admin should do quest without giving exp. For example: Protect Keldrin or Ethren Quest.  People rely to much on experience quest, rather than just going out and leveling on their own. They sit around and player kill the new guys because they are bored, and it has caused a lot of new people to quit, or coplaints.

4. I think people should help each other more. There are several new guys that need help, and people ignore thier pleas for help.
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Post by: LostRelic on August 17, 2004 04:05 am CDT
I've actually decided to change my vote, i would actually prefer more if there was a server clear, make the game more fun.
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Post by: UnderGod on August 17, 2004 04:33 am CDT
That was more or less of my opinion. I don't give a rat's ass if you like it or not.

The fact is though that it will make things worse to clear the server again. Don't even comment on this unless you were well around before and after the last one.
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Post by: LastWish on August 17, 2004 08:43 am CDT
Yeah.  We've already decided to make quests a little more rare, but a little larger as well.  We are going to make it so they have to work to get the prize, which will solely come from how much they kill/participate in the quests.  We'll be relying more on letting the monsters they kill give them experience, rather than letting them sit around and get a prize at the end.

I think the clear will help, and it will also be fun to start over.  I bet it will bring a lot of old people who quit, and a lot of new people who are looking for a new beginning.

So far, the vote is yes..  i'll let any scragglers who didn't vote get their word in, but later today the vote will be closed.  Thanks for all your input guys..  it actually showed that some of you still care and want to enjoy the game :D
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Post by: -eViL- on August 17, 2004 08:50 am CDT
Quote from: "UnderGod"
The fact is though that it will make things worse to clear the server again. Don't even comment on this unless you were well around before and after the last one.
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Post by: LastWish on August 17, 2004 09:24 am CDT
I was around before the last one..  we have different problems this time.  How about you come play all the time now and see for yourself?  The clear this time is for a totally different reason..  so you are the one who needs to see what's going on here.  Not trying to be a unsavory woman, but just because you played here back in the day doesn't mean you have everything figured out..
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Post by: -eViL- on August 17, 2004 09:26 am CDT
and just because you are an admin that played before the clear for 2 months doesn't mean you meet ozzy's requirements.  the clear last time was the worst thing ever, all the fun people just stopped playing.
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Post by: LastWish on August 17, 2004 09:54 am CDT
Well, there are still a lot of people who play and enjoy playing..  just because you and some of your friends left doesn't mean the game sucks now.  There are still a lot of cool people who play..  they may not be your friends, or you may not like them, but the server isn't up for only you and your friends.  2 months was plenty of time to realize the problem with the asshole gods, etc..

All I'm saying is..  you guy's aren't around in the server enough to know the current problems, aside from the squabble you see on this forum.  I'm not saying that your opinion isn't wanted, because it is, but i'm just saying things are a bit different now..
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Post by: Talliun on August 17, 2004 10:01 am CDT
Aren't we all trying to work to the greatest applicable crowd, not a few oldbies amongst the community? Sure we appreciate and respect their superior knowledge on the issue, but this is a collective concern.

This community is supposed to be working to the largest appeal - why stop the progress of a greater vote on one end, for two or three traditionalist opinions.

And yes, I did my fair share of time in PCRPG before and after the clear. Enough to valid my claims, just as much as anyone else. Newcomers, casual gamers, and veterans alike should have the same say in all respect.

Right now this just seems like a conflict of whose credibility, authority and length of time in the server has more "bang for their word. Therefore, that would be defeating the central purpose of a server-wide, community-wide vote for everyone to participate in.

Signed,

Talliun
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Post by: UnderGod on August 17, 2004 12:51 pm CDT
Fun?

Fun would be Mr. Avalon (Almost none of you would know who I am talking about) Ranting around about his stories in Avalon and his quest to get revenge.

Fun would be the whore house, or the Bar & Grille that people spent a lot of money for me to make.

Fun would be my daring quests where you could lose everything if you made 1 wrong turn or you could gain everything for looking at it with an open mind. (rock quest doesn't even come close).
 
There are maybe 3 people still around that know what I'm talking about. If you think this is fun now, you have no idea.

The player limit scorched the server.  The people who came with it were just an added effect. I don't care though. It doesn't matter to me anymore.
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Post by: Kendril on August 17, 2004 02:59 pm CDT
I don't play much anymore! If we cleared the server I probably wouldn't play at all! Its just not fun anylonger! Too many people have left the server since I started! I moved on to bigger and better things! Good luck as far as the server goes! I still will be around on the forums though! :lol:
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Post by: Corona on August 17, 2004 03:05 pm CDT
I know a hell of a lot more than NINETEEN PEOPLE who would vote no for such an insane thing. Tokath currently knows 667 characters, I wonder how many of them would vote if they knew? Would it change the outcome?

It's obvious that very few people who really matter (ie players on the server who can't register on here or have no knowledge of the poll) are voting. Furthermore it's obvious that, in spite of LastWish's request not to do so, people who don't play on the server are voting -- and mostly they're voting yes.

Should this rigged poll actually result in a #massfullclear, it will be a sad day for PCRPG.  :?
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Post by: Jonah on August 17, 2004 03:13 pm CDT
Most of the people that vote no would be noobs who don't understand why we need a clear, and they would be voting no just so they don't have to start over.
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Post by: Kendril on August 17, 2004 03:18 pm CDT
If you do a clear then do away with dusting completely! Take it out! Let there be lvling from 145 to 174 for non gods and 145 to 1500 for gods! This would make it more of a challenge when you reach god and it would slow down the attempts to reach 174 to bash or steal! This would also make money a Non-issue! Money would only be usefull for weapons and Armor!
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Post by: Corona on August 17, 2004 03:22 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
Most of the people that vote no would be noobs who don't understand why we need a clear, and they would be voting no just so they don't have to start over.


Exactly. Starting over sucks. I might support the clear if the illegitimate gods were causing trouble, but they're not. And all the No-voting noobs would likely agree... lol
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Post by: Jonah on August 17, 2004 03:43 pm CDT
Boo hoo. Everyone starts over. You actually have to LVL the right way. If you don't like LVLing, then don't play Tribes RPG.
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Post by: Corona on August 17, 2004 04:20 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
Boo hoo. Everyone starts over. You actually have to LVL the right way. If you don't like LVLing, then don't play Tribes RPG.


This isn't about leveling... at least not for me.... so you can save the LVL speech for someone who it applies to. None of my chars are over RL4, and most reached level 174 a long time ago. I play pcrpg mainly to help people, and also because I have friends there.

So aside from getting my char to RL 3 or 4 and then up to lvl 174 so it can be a decent helper, I don't play to level.
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Post by: Lucid on August 17, 2004 04:23 pm CDT
While i think clear woud solve alot of problems, there is some it doesnt address. I do like the idea of it, but i feel there is a better way.

The money clear seems like a no brainer. it needs to be done. Only problem is those who stockpiled claymores too.

My suggestion is we need to assemble a coding team, something i saw ozzy as before, he could upgrade content, he could code in features, just as much as particle could. We need coders that can provide new thigns to the game. This would entice people to wonder whats new, give people something to talk about, i like this or that. The game needs something new. I've been trying my best to write some complicated and fun scripts, as my latest is my pokerbot, that lets you play poker with it.

Things that make the game something other then chatting and finding a spot to stand in with yoru autoswing. People get bored, "oh nothing to do, so lets do some mimmic killing"
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Post by: Talliun on August 17, 2004 04:38 pm CDT
I dont think were aiming at a lot of new coding and game content, just on-the-fly quests that are a lot more thorough by the quest masters. As mentioned before hand in greater detail, we want to try and make them more individual and in a smaller, controlled environment. Generally, something unique and dynamic, but within reasonable time that the administrator/quest masters wants to devote.

Generally, this is more of a maintenance and security clear, coupled with a few new, low-coding ideas. Mainly, new ways for administrators to become more involved and sort of critique their roles as part of a greater meshing of player and quest masters.

-Talliun
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Post by: Razore on August 17, 2004 05:40 pm CDT
Guys, before you start coding, wouldnt you rather aim your coding skillz!111 at T:V? Then we could have PCRPG T:V and we would have more freedom and better built clients? o_o
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Post by: Sinister on August 17, 2004 05:42 pm CDT
What is the release date on Trives V?  Also, what language will it be written in?
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Post by: Razore on August 17, 2004 05:47 pm CDT
Duno, but I saw a "Tribes-Con" on TechTV, and they had 100's of oldschool players playing tribes 1 and playing T:V. They were just forking with the grappling hook because that was one of the new things that influenced gameplay ALOT..



I KNOW! WE CAN MAKE A GRAPPLING HOOK! WE CAN LIKE SWING!
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Post by: GE on August 17, 2004 05:50 pm CDT
I think we need to do a coin,partchment, and dust clear.. If that doesnt work I will 100% support a Server clear. I just don't see clearing being the first option.
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Post by: Crash on August 17, 2004 06:07 pm CDT
Clearing coins, parchment, and dusts will do little to actually end the problem. Like was said earlier, what about people who have fiscal items saved up to sell for money? And what about those who have already used their illegal money to level up? They should get away with it while others have to actually work for their levels?

Either pretend nothing is wrong or just clear it all.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 17, 2004 06:08 pm CDT
Ok, I have a combined 50+ remorts on the server and I fully support a clear. I was around well before the last clear and can remember most of the things Ozzy said. I played when there were 8 players, Ozzy was Darkninja, Cecil, Undergod, et al. I know what happened with the last clear and I STILL believe we need one now.

Most of the Gods and high remorts have said they would stay, and others that wouldn't have no reason to be here then. They got their levels and remorts illegitly and I say, "fork em". In the end it is Particle's server to do as he wishes, but the "old players" like evil and undergod haven't seen the malarkey pile the server has become.
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Post by: GE on August 17, 2004 06:16 pm CDT
No I dont think they should get away w/ turning thier coins into lvls.. but why punish the people the havent.  I just think clearing  the server as the first solution isnt fair ti everyone who lvled thier chars ligitily.
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Post by: KoRo on August 17, 2004 06:31 pm CDT
Not to put a damper on anything, but seeing that the popular vote (which in this country seems to mean LESS than electoral votes) is going for a total clear, I only want to know when It will happen...assuming it does...based on the popular vote....and not the elector votes....where admins would be the electoral colleges....a REAL vote....yeah....

time frame?
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 17, 2004 06:39 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
Yeah.  We've already decided to make quests a little more rare, but a little larger as well.  We are going to make it so they have to work to get the prize, which will solely come from how much they kill/participate in the quests.  We'll be relying more on letting the monsters they kill give them experience, rather than letting them sit around and get a prize at the end.

I think the clear will help, and it will also be fun to start over.  I bet it will bring a lot of old people who quit, and a lot of new people who are looking for a new beginning.

So far, the vote is yes..  i'll let any scragglers who didn't vote get their word in, but later today the vote will be closed.  Thanks for all your input guys..  it actually showed that some of you still care and want to enjoy the game :D


Just like in City of Heroes, things called "Task Forces". There are different levels of task forces in different citys. Only certain levels can participate in those forces. You can't sit there leeching, because all the monsters are well above your level and your team's and your team will most certainly die. I think this could fit well in PCRPG. (Not like it will happen) Only 8 people max can be in them, and no less then 3. (For example you need 5 for the level 3 Task Force, 3 for the 1st, and 4 for the 2nd.) Anyway, the main exp comes from the monsters of the TF's. You get well over 35000 exp from the later TF's. Oh, and if you do think you're in for a big exp bonus at the end, you aren't really. You get close to 3000, which is hardly nothing in that game if you're level 20+. And you get one enchanement (I won't go in detail).

Anyway, my whole point is that this would fit into PCRPG very good, and its like what LW is saying. No big EXP bonus at end, and the monsters give most of the EXP.
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Post by: LastWish on August 17, 2004 06:44 pm CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
Not to put a damper on anything, but seeing that the popular vote (which in this country seems to mean LESS than electoral votes) is going for a total clear, I only want to know when It will happen...assuming it does...based on the popular vote....and not the elector votes....where admins would be the electoral colleges....a REAL vote....yeah....

time frame?


When I can get Particle to raise the level's of gran'kar and ogres, and another gnoll spawn or two in the mines, we'll be set for the clear.  The big changes will come as we get a DEV Team and some stone set ideas together.

Within a week, most likely, the clear will take place.
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Post by: KoRo on August 17, 2004 06:48 pm CDT
damn! school starts in a week! I was looking foward to starting over, now I may not have time >< lousy...high..school.....but on the bright side I got back together with my gf!
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Post by: Crash on August 17, 2004 11:11 pm CDT
GE, I was here for the last clear. I was a God then. I lost my character. Yes, it was a big pain int he ass getting punished for a lot of other malarkey that people did, but you get over it. Some just take a little longer than others.
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Post by: GE on August 17, 2004 11:16 pm CDT
I'm not upset im losing my char.. And I don't dissagree w/ a clear, I think some people have my view on this subject a little confused.
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Post by: Aphex on August 17, 2004 11:24 pm CDT
eh. the last clear didnt really matter to me, because someone *cough* force remorted me.....so it didnt matter anyways.
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Post by: Hidama on August 18, 2004 01:40 am CDT
I voted no, (just skim through this post if it is too long for you to read :( Just felt like saying this, since it will happen at some point, and with high remort level players comes mining or some other form of gaining coins, dusting needs to be kind of restricted, maybe for level 101 up (with a teleport, like what was said before).

People who have characters at level 174 at about remort level 4 or 10 will play for a month and probably get it back, although I feel bad for people like Taurik who are big helpers and who will lose their heal bot characters. And I also feel bad for 7, who gained a lot of remorts but now has to have it taken away. These kind of people do not deserve to be cleared, but I guess we will have to move on because of some people who filled the game up with coins and dusting

Otherwise I would like to start over I guess, having no people that much higher a remort level than me would be nice. And it takes care of blackscreened characters too. However, this is kind of big, and so I would like a coin clear at first, just to see how it is :)

I voted no because many people who worked for what they have will lose their characters.
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Post by: nesso on August 18, 2004 01:41 am CDT
CLEAR AND MAKE REMORTNIG MEGA ULTRA HARD!!!!

make it oldstyle

like when you got to like level 20 it takes hours to level!
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 18, 2004 02:11 am CDT
Or heres an Idea... take out dusting. Or make it a one time thing. like you can only do it once. once you have done it you can never again.
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Post by: Aphex on August 18, 2004 02:15 am CDT
or you can only dust once you get to rl 100.  That way the only use for dust would be to get to lvl 1500 :)
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 18, 2004 02:16 am CDT
:P
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Post by: Aphex on August 18, 2004 02:26 am CDT
maybe that's why my head hurts all the time. my brain is simply too big. hahaha. whatever....still le tired.
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Post by: nesso on August 18, 2004 02:31 am CDT
oh oh!!! or MAYBE he can host a CS server yeah?!
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 18, 2004 03:45 am CDT
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-You are not to circumvent a ban.  If one of your accounts has been banned or your usual IP address ranges banned, you are NOT to use IP spoofing services, additional accounts, or other means to continue to use the forums for the duration of your ban.


how long was his ban?
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Post by: Wraith on August 18, 2004 04:32 am CDT
Alright, I've been playing this server for a little over a week now since my return to Tribes. I played the rpg a couple years ago on a server that went down unexpectedly for reasons still unknown to me.  Before the fall of the server, I was the highest non-admin character they had. Losing that character hurt a lot, and I even left trpg. A clear now would not hurt me much, as I'm only a RL 1.  But, the idea of a mass p-wipe doesn't give a good perspective of the server.  A newbie or even just a lowbie might see that if there's a problem, the owner(s) just erase everything and start over (seeing how it has already happened once) and may decide that it's not worth the time and effort of making a good character.  I'm an ex-mudder, and I've left my fair share of muds because the only solutions admins could come up with was mass punishment/clearing.

Granted, lord knows how many times I've had my boots and weapon mugged by level 174+ people with nothing better to do since they don't bother remorting anymore. Putting everyone on a level playing field is a good idea in theory, but so is communism (which doesn't work out so well in practice). I realise that some (if not many) players got high and higher illegally, but isn't there a way to detect that? The high levels that took their sweet time probably did it squarely. The ones who shot up in days or weeks either have sleep problems (guilty) or got there through ill means.

Either way I'll stick with the server because from what I've seen, there are very few stable servers that can hold (or even need to hold, for that matter) so many people. I've haven't seen any other trpg server full since my return to trpg, and this is one of the larger ones.
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Post by: Lucid on August 18, 2004 06:34 am CDT
My angle on this, is that a server clear would be great , but im not all for it. It sucks, but it appears its the best solution to the problem at hand.

However, what i think alot of people are missing is that this won't be a repeat of last clear -> now. I'm trying to push for a dev team, people that can code in rules into the game, so the admins don't have to enforce so many of them, for example, make it so mugging has a timed flag, much liked bashing, or spells. So you can only mug every few minutes, also it is possible, to have the server keep track of how many times you've mugged and have a timer that disables #mug or steal on a player who has outdone their allowed mug limit. Additionally people who have reached their pk limit in a time limit will find their weapons /spells doing no damage to their targets.

To not clear would be to patch up lots of problems and hope they work out. A new start would allow us to implement improvements, bit by bit, to make it so this doesnt happen again. I think if more people were providing input as to how to make gameplay better, their new char may experience a much more fun game.

Also the less adminning that needs to be done, the more time we have for quests and coding, and the more time we have for that, the more variety players will have in gameplay.

btw razore, if you feel the need for a grappling hook, {-o-} Plasmatic already coded one in his Tribes Vengeance for Tribes 1 mod. Just look for Vengeance under server types.
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Post by: nesso on August 18, 2004 10:53 am CDT
Quote from: "Lucid"
btw razore, if you feel the need for a grappling hook, {-o-} Plasmatic already coded one in his Tribes Vengeance for Tribes 1 mod. Just look for Vengeance under server types.


man grappling hook?!? this game is gonna turn into spideman mod!!!
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 18, 2004 12:18 pm CDT
Well, if the clear does not happen, I will quit. LOL. As alot of you know. Last night I threw all my stuff in the well.
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Post by: LastWish on August 18, 2004 12:24 pm CDT
Oh so you are just going to ditch e2?  =/
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 18, 2004 12:25 pm CDT
e2 is IF the server clears. and i said I would stay if the clear happens. So no in no way I will not be ditching e2 :P
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Post by: LastWish on August 18, 2004 12:27 pm CDT
Oh I thought you said you would quit if it cleared..  haha, my bad! :D
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 18, 2004 12:29 pm CDT
Open your eyes Girl =)
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Post by: 7 on August 18, 2004 01:07 pm CDT
So If and when the server is cleared i will not be comming back.
To be honnest every time i get to RL 240 some one comes on a decides to post a poll about a clear characters. And im not doing it again
i stuck with it the last time because i thought i could reach me goal ie: RL 777   but by the looks of things thats not going to happen AGAIN.

But there again i havent seen any conformation about this clear and to be honnest all that needs to be done is a clear bank because all that people are moaning about is the exessive coins.

And then may be i can get on with my lvling. :lol:
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Post by: WolfTones on August 18, 2004 01:14 pm CDT
Who cares if you go...you suck anyway you brittish bastard :P
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Post by: KoRo on August 18, 2004 01:16 pm CDT
i just want a fresh start along with everyone who starts playing after the clear. It'll be like we're all young again  :D
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 18, 2004 01:19 pm CDT
Two words. Old World.
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Post by: KoRo on August 18, 2004 01:20 pm CDT
Three words: What is that?
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 18, 2004 01:24 pm CDT
You are an idiot.
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Post by: KoRo on August 18, 2004 01:29 pm CDT
It's a server, right?
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 18, 2004 01:30 pm CDT
That isn't up anymore. It was the ultimate and best server ever.
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Post by: KoRo on August 18, 2004 01:35 pm CDT
Okay? I dont think i ever played on it.
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Post by: Scrizaks on August 18, 2004 02:41 pm CDT
Quote from: "Lucid"
btw razore, if you feel the need for a grappling hook, {-o-} Plasmatic already coded one in his Tribes Vengeance for Tribes 1 mod. Just look for Vengeance under server types.


wait a second.... Plas is still around? holy malarkey... i used to play annih with him years and years ago. orb was the only clan i never joined cause they were into the 2.1, 2.x etc, while i loved teh 1337 1.31.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 18, 2004 02:45 pm CDT
Old world = a server I was banned from....

http://www.oldworldrpg.com (http://www.oldworldrpg.com)

If it is still up check the news for a guy named Hue_Jass, that is me. lol. Biggest duper on that server :roll:

Maybe it wouldn't have been so suspicious if i didn't have 2 phen's robes :P
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Post by: Lucid on August 18, 2004 04:22 pm CDT
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Quote from: "Lucid"
btw razore, if you feel the need for a grappling hook, {-o-} Plasmatic already coded one in his Tribes Vengeance for Tribes 1 mod. Just look for Vengeance under server types.

wait a second.... Plas is still around? holy ****... i used to play annih with him years and years ago. orb was the only clan i never joined cause they were into the 2.1, 2.x etc, while i loved teh 1337 1.31.


Heh we are into the newer versions because its our mod, and its made better , as we see it, so of course we are going to play the newer ones :P. And yes, plasmatic is still around, recently he's coded physics motion transfer into annihilation, and also he coded the t:v mod. He's pretty active, he ussually has somthign to show me every few days.
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Post by: Aphex on August 18, 2004 05:08 pm CDT
plas has always been around. He's one of the orb memebers I can count on to always be there. Just dont talk about shoes around him ;)
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Post by: Hollywood on August 18, 2004 06:08 pm CDT
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Quote from: "Lucid"
btw razore, if you feel the need for a grappling hook, {-o-} Plasmatic already coded one in his Tribes Vengeance for Tribes 1 mod. Just look for Vengeance under server types.

wait a second.... Plas is still around? holy ****... i used to play annih with him years and years ago. orb was the only clan i never joined cause they were into the 2.1, 2.x etc, while i loved teh 1337 1.31.


No.
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Post by: Aphex on August 18, 2004 06:26 pm CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
Quote from: "Scrizaks"
Quote from: "Lucid"
btw razore, if you feel the need for a grappling hook, {-o-} Plasmatic already coded one in his Tribes Vengeance for Tribes 1 mod. Just look for Vengeance under server types.

wait a second.... Plas is still around? holy ****... i used to play annih with him years and years ago. orb was the only clan i never joined cause they were into the 2.1, 2.x etc, while i loved teh 1337 1.31.

No.


you dont join orb. Orb joins you....
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Post by: Snails on August 18, 2004 06:43 pm CDT
I was never able to figure out how to add the tractor beam to my ufo droid.  So I used the vortex turret instead.
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Post by: Lucid on August 18, 2004 06:57 pm CDT
I think what aphex meant was that Orb is invite only , so most people don't have a choice about joining :).

Anyways back on topic, anymore constructive ideas?
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Post by: nesso on August 18, 2004 09:40 pm CDT
Quote from: "FloPPy_PiLLoW"
Old world = a server I was banned from....

http://www.oldworldrpg.com (http://www.oldworldrpg.com)

If it is still up check the news for a guy named Hue_Jass, that is me. lol. Biggest duper on that server :roll:

Maybe it wouldn't have been so suspicious if i didn't have 2 phen's robes :P


dude i need to talk to sirsteven and toaster to host that bad boy back up.. that server was the bomb! it was bigger than particles!!!

only problem was that they had alot of glitches

best part of the game was when noobs would steal from higher leveled people and then own them with the LINE BRAEK AWOHOHWOWHIR!~
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Post by: Jonah on August 18, 2004 09:42 pm CDT
I could be in Orb if I wanted to be.


Really, I could.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 18, 2004 11:45 pm CDT
What the hell is orb :roll:
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Post by: Kyrie on August 18, 2004 11:56 pm CDT
A clan?
Hence..my sig..and avatar...
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 19, 2004 12:11 am CDT
What sig? not showing up for me.
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Post by: Kyrie on August 19, 2004 12:43 am CDT
Dunno. Works fine for me.
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Post by: Jonah on August 19, 2004 12:50 am CDT
It's not showing up for me, either.
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Post by: Kyrie on August 19, 2004 12:52 am CDT
I uploaded it to another location. Work now?
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Post by: Jonah on August 19, 2004 12:54 am CDT
Yes, it does.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 19, 2004 12:56 am CDT
I see it too now
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Post by: Kendril on August 19, 2004 10:36 am CDT
The only drawback to all of this talk of clearing and implementing new stuff into the server is that its been talked about a million times before! How many times have Admins said they were gonna work on new stuff for the server? Everyone gets totally stoked about the idea and then nothing ever happens! I am not trying to Rag on you Aphex and LW. I really like you guys alot but there isnt a good track record! Even Particle talked about doing new things with the server such as new armor implements and adding some new fighting areas but it never has happened! What I fear is that your gonna get your Mass clear but the server will stay the same! I think that most of the people here voting for the mass clear are voting on the promises that probably wont come true! Like I said before I am not trying to flame you guys I am just pointing out what I have seen in the last 2 years i have been here!
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Post by: Razore on August 19, 2004 10:42 am CDT
Quote from: "Kendril"
The only drawback to all of this talk of clearing and implementing new stuff into the server is that its been talked about a million times before! How many times have Admins said they were gonna work on new stuff for the server? Everyone gets totally stoked about the idea and then nothing ever happens! I am not trying to Rag on you Aphex and LW. I really like you guys alot but there isnt a good track record! Even Particle talked about doing new things with the server such as new armor implements and adding some new fighting areas but it never has happened! What I fear is that your gonna get your Mass clear but the server will stay the same! I think that most of the people here voting for the mass clear are voting on the promises that probably wont come true! Like I said before I am not trying to flame you guys I am just pointing out what I have seen in the last 2 years i have been here!



Indeed.
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 01:13 pm CDT
Quote from: "Kendril"
The only drawback to all of this talk of clearing and implementing new stuff into the server is that its been talked about a million times before! How many times have Admins said they were gonna work on new stuff for the server? Everyone gets totally stoked about the idea and then nothing ever happens! I am not trying to Rag on you Aphex and LW. I really like you guys alot but there isnt a good track record! Even Particle talked about doing new things with the server such as new armor implements and adding some new fighting areas but it never has happened! What I fear is that your gonna get your Mass clear but the server will stay the same! I think that most of the people here voting for the mass clear are voting on the promises that probably wont come true! Like I said before I am not trying to flame you guys I am just pointing out what I have seen in the last 2 years i have been here!


My track record?  I was here for a very short amount of time before the last clear, and I wasn't even the one who was pushing for it the hardest.  Do you know how long iv'e been pushing Particle about a thousand different changes on the server?  If you looked at the logs of my ICQ messages between myself and particle, you will see that I have done 98% of the talking.  I'm just an admin without FTP access, or the ability to actually make the changes to the server.  If I had FTP access, these changes would have been implemented a LONG time ago.  There is just a huge communication problem between myself and Particle..  he is obviously a very busy person, and when I try to push harder for things, he only gets upset.

He can't do anything about it right now because he is having fiber problems, and the FTP to the server is down, but trust me..  iv'e asked for a lot of things to happen that never did.

So, I take no offense to your "ragging", but you don't even know half of the story.  How about YOU bother Particle about it, instead of me having to  be the annoying nagging one.  I'm honestly just sick of having 3 word conversations with the owner of the server that i'm trying to help, and then getting constantly flamed because i'm one of the admins.

If you don't like the way things are going, i'm sorry.. because neither do I.  After this clear happens, i'll do my best to change things around here, but i'm not the only one who has some changing to do.  I'm not saying Particle is the problem here, but he obviously doesn't share the same level of interest for the server as most of us do.  This puts a bottleneck between the players and what happens on the server, but you guys only see the admins, so naturally that's who you blame.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 19, 2004 01:26 pm CDT
Yeah. I know how hard it is to actually talk to particle. If he is there he is busy and if he is busy he won't talk to me. Not to flame particle. Cause I know that unlike me some people to have a life other than the internet.
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Post by: Hollywood on August 19, 2004 02:36 pm CDT
He is talkative through teamspeak on Shifter. :P
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Post by: Aphex on August 19, 2004 02:49 pm CDT
you just have to catch him at the right time.
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 03:21 pm CDT
Obviously I suck at it.. lol
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Post by: Jonah on August 19, 2004 03:22 pm CDT
You have to wait until he IMs you.
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 03:31 pm CDT
He's never messaged me first =/

*cries*
Title: Teamspeak
Post by: Snails on August 19, 2004 03:41 pm CDT
Quote from: "Hollywood"
He is talkative through teamspeak on Shifter. :P


Reaaally?

Well then, I will have to get authorization to forward our teamspeak channel info to him.
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Post by: Jonah on August 19, 2004 03:58 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
He's never messaged me first =/

*cries*



Oooooh I feel so special..
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 05:43 pm CDT
Special people suck.
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Post by: Aphex on August 19, 2004 05:57 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
Special people suck.



they also ride the short bus
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Post by: Jonah on August 19, 2004 05:57 pm CDT
They're usually born that way, LW, they can't do anything about it.
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Post by: GE on August 19, 2004 06:03 pm CDT
Why does the short bus have seat belts and the normal buses don't
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Post by: Snails on August 19, 2004 06:23 pm CDT
Why did the Indians(Native Americans) introduce us to corn and tobacco?
Corn syrup is in everything...
Cigarettes are bad for you...
Makes ya wonder?
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Post by: Aphex on August 19, 2004 06:28 pm CDT
maybe they were pissed off about us stealing there land??? I dont know tho. Just a wild guess.
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 07:23 pm CDT
They could have ruled the word..  but as soon as we gave them alcohol, they slipped up and handed it all to the forking pilgrims.
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Post by: Bonzai on August 19, 2004 08:25 pm CDT
I vote No.

I'll not return if a clear happens. I'm not willing to spend all this time again to get a decent character just to have it cleared again later.

Reasons for not clearing:

1.) Large amounts of money will happen again no matter what you do.

2.) Buttholes will still be there. That's life... get over it!

3.) "Haxors" will still screw it up...again, and again, and again no matter how many clears you have to do.

4.) Repetitive clears will chase people away. Why bother leveling much if another clear is coming in a few more months....

5.) etc...etc...

*****  Suggestions for fixing it instead of a total clear:

1.) "Clear" all badges, admin items, massive money, that people have. Reduce the the extremely high RL's that have happened because of the mess. Aren't the admins supposed to be doing this anyway?

2.) Aggresively monitor what people have and do. ENFORCE the rules instead of giving warning after warning after warning and not doing anything about it.

3.)  More PK people. We need them badly.

  Let's use a little common sense about all this shall we. A total clear will do nothing but delay this mess again until the next clear happens. Let's get our heads out of the sand and fix the real problems instead of just "clearing" it away.

   Just my opinion folks. I probably don't know the whole story but I'll be gone if the clear happens...
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Post by: Corona on August 19, 2004 08:37 pm CDT
Bonzai speaks the truth. I'll be gone as well. But I'll leave Tokath behind to wander around k-town as a level 1.  :lol:

*edit*

And there is not likely to be a clear anyway... not if Particle has any sanity... this joke of a poll is rigged. Tokath currently knows 694 characters... of them, maybe 200 play on a regular basis.... yet this poll only has 43 votes! And of those 43, a large portion are probably illegitimate votes from people who haven't played in months... or votes of the "I'm voting yes then quitting" variety.
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 08:45 pm CDT
Who are any of us to say who got their levels illegally?  People would go ballistic if we just took certain people's RLs, and the money problem won't exist solely because the only reason it happened in the first place was some admin that gave JayJay too many coins.

1.  The money problem won't happen again, because we know what caused it.

2.  We aren't clearing because of "buttholes".

3.  The password hacking has been patched thoroughly.

4.  This will be the last clear happening on PCRPG.

5.  Why would you put a number for etc.?  You have no other reasons to negate a clear.

You are right..  you don't know the whole story.  You should see the updates and modifications we have planned for the server..  if you did, you would probably be leaning more towards a clear.

All in all, if a reset of the characters makes you want to quit because you lost too much work, then the purpose of the game has gone beyond you.  People play to have fun..  if you don't think you can have fun without a high RL character for a month or two, then this game is not for you.

Sorry to see you go, just when PCRPG is about to have so many major renovations.
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Post by: Bonzai on August 19, 2004 08:52 pm CDT
"4. This will be the last clear happening on PCRPG. "



  Was this promise made the last time also?  
  Is the reason for the clear truely because or all the problems or is it just that some people want to add more stuff to the game but can't without a "clear"?  Kinda sounds like it.
  Sorry if I touch a sensitive area here but jeez..  lighten up would ya!!
It's not the end of the world.
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 08:57 pm CDT
Oh i'm not mad or anything..  it's just you are saying the same thing people said in the last 12 pages of this thread.  No one promised last time that it was the last clear..  this time we are making sure people can't get to remort 200 level 1500 so quickly.  For one, we are severly nerfing people's ability to use magic dust.  I'm trying to get people organized here but it seems as though people are reluctant to help coordinate this.

As soon as all this happened, people came out with how much money they really had..  it's rediculous.  People had 500+ badges of honor..  wtf is that?  What admin would give out that many?  I just think it's gone beyond a point where we can just erase certain things and move on.
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Post by: Aphex on August 19, 2004 08:59 pm CDT
the badge thing was a product of duping. Peach did it. I have the IM logs of everything he told me he did to the server.

Ive never given out a badge. I always thought they were banned.
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 19, 2004 09:01 pm CDT
can you tell us exactly how the dusting has been nerfed?
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Post by: Mingan29 on August 19, 2004 09:03 pm CDT
Amusing. I would only lose a RL...as long as the admins quest, and i have internet, and my parent's aren't home, I'll play.

XD XD XD
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Post by: Bonzai on August 19, 2004 09:06 pm CDT
Thank you for explaining it a little for me. It's seems a fairly logical choice then to do the clear. This whole scenario is like a Mobius strip...has no beginning or ending. Good luck...
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Post by: LastWish on August 19, 2004 09:31 pm CDT
We are planning on making it so you have to be much higher level to dust.  145 probably, which means we'll have to alter the experience cap thing so you can keep leveling past whatever the limit is.  I think it's 125 or something.  This way, people can't just dust to 175 in a day..  they are going to have to work hard if they want to be higher level than everyone else.
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Post by: Jonah on August 19, 2004 09:33 pm CDT
EXP cap is 145, fool.
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Post by: Corona on August 19, 2004 09:37 pm CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
All in all, if a reset of the characters makes you want to quit because you lost too much work, then the purpose of the game has gone beyond you.  People play to have fun..  if you don't think you can have fun without a high RL character for a month or two, then this game is not for you.


Wrong. I don't think anyone plays to have fun more than I do, with the possible exception of NFY. I haven't done any leveling on Taurik or Corona for months... I play to help newbs and to hang out with db, not gain remorts. I'm leaving because I can do neither of these things after a clear (can't help newbs when I'm a goddam newb myself, and db is leaving). lol
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Post by: Lucid on August 19, 2004 10:15 pm CDT
corona if not being able to use a healbot is a problem, that can be solved, I mean we could in essence give that char what it needs, as long as at the same time we made it unplayable by normal means.
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Post by: Corona on August 19, 2004 10:42 pm CDT
You can do whatever you want with it. If you give it the skills it needs, it will automatically go about its business.. if you don't, it will run around k-town thinking it's in the den. ;)
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Post by: Aphex on August 20, 2004 01:16 am CDT
I have something to say.

I dont agree with the way things are going right now. People are trashing their characters, asking me to give them stuff and basically just throwing the rules out the window.  All becase they think the server is getting cleared. Is the clear official? When is it going to happen? I want to hear it from particle that he is going to clear the server. Because Im still enforcing the rules.

and another thing. Teh server is dead now. i was on in the middle of the day and there were like 10 people on. In fact I dont think i've seen it go over 10 the whole day.  Im starting to think that no good is going to come of this.
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 20, 2004 01:17 am CDT
yeah you should have seen the protest that had messages used as names for the packs... all you saw in ktown was "You have no right to take VOTE_NO_TOSERVERCLR's backpack"
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Post by: Corona on August 20, 2004 01:21 am CDT
Yeah, well Solaris promised to OMG LOL MAKE THE SERVER AWARE OF TEH POLL OMGZ, then quietly shut up about the matter... I still come across noobs who have no idea that their leveling is pointless
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Post by: Aphex on August 20, 2004 01:46 am CDT
no I saw all the packs in town.

I just think that before everyone goes and hands out all their items or gives away a billion coins. Or before admins give out a billion coins in ktown for no raason, you should have proof that a server clear is going to happen.


It's like promising someone that you will give them a million dollars, so they go out and spend their lives saving thinking that they will hve the money to makeup for it...but the million never comes. In the end you are screwed and left even worse than you were before the promise was made.

dont get me wrong I think a clear would solve problems, and I have alot of ideas. but when it comes right down to it, the chances of these ideas taking place or the changes happening to the server are very slim if at all possible. I mean you can keep up the moral for a little bit but what happens if the server is cleared and there are no changes. What happens if the server is not clared at all?


what im saying is. If its going to happen then hurry up and do it. Stop talking about it and do it.  Becasue we are just waisting time getting all hyped up over  nothing...Im not trying to be mean but I see nothing happening. Nothing is changing. So far we are all just sitting around talking about great ideas.

And I know we cant do any of this without particle. But look at it this way. If it's taking this long to get the server cleared how much longer will it take to make the chages to the server?

It's just not fun anymore. And I dont think all this is making it any better.
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 20, 2004 03:33 am CDT
when/if it does happen my way of leaving will be the linebreak jailer...

"You have been jailed for 90000000 seconds."

"[Auto-Violaton Report] Guess what! The asshat known as DeadBreed tried to use the linebreak exploit.  DeadBreed has been jailed for 90 million seconds (2.86 years)!  Let there be rejoicing!"

"You have left Keldrin Town"

"You have entered Fort Ethren.  This is a protected territory."
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Post by: Corona on August 20, 2004 04:04 am CDT
Don't forget to blackscreen your character before you linebreak!

one dose of #setinfo Lk will provide you with lifetime protection against successful server-joins...
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Post by: LastWish on August 20, 2004 07:46 am CDT
Quote from: "Corona"
Yeah, well Solaris promised to OMG LOL MAKE THE SERVER AWARE OF TEH POLL OMGZ, then quietly shut up about the matter... I still come across noobs who have no idea that their leveling is pointless


I told everyone to vote every time I joined the server for a week straight.  If you think i'm the problem, come out and say it..  don't act like my god damn friend when i'm in the server and then turn around and talk malarkey about me on the forum.  If people choose to be unaware about the news on the server by not visiting these forums, so be it.  Don't be fake..  you are better than that.

We already have the beginnings of a dev team, with tons of ideas, and I already have a few coders ready to help us with whatever we want.  The only thing we need now is for Particle's FTP to be fixed.  As far as I know, his FTP has never gone down before, so it's not like this happens all the time.  

If you guys don't want to play anymore, then don't..  there are many people that think differently and will continue to play and enjoy the changes we are going to make.
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Post by: Corona on August 20, 2004 07:58 am CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
I told everyone to vote every time I joined the server for a week straight.  If you think i'm the problem, come out and say it..  don't act like my *** **** friend when i'm in the server and then turn around and talk **** about me on the forum.  If people choose to be unaware about the news on the server by not visiting these forums, so be it.  Don't be fake..  you are better than that.


I wasn't talking malarkey about you. I was explaining why we made the packs, nothing more. 43 votes was nice, but it is no real representation of the number of active players, so we decided to draw more attention to the poll... it sort of worked, the No vote is catching up. =p

The only thing I would really need to come out and say is, maybe acting on Floppy's suggestion wasn't a great idea. You'll probably get your clear, eventually, but the server changes could take a year. Particle just couldn't be arsed... lol
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Post by: LastWish on August 20, 2004 09:46 am CDT
You keep saying that you know I wasn't the one who first introduced the idea of a clear, but then you turn around and post things like i'm going behind people's backs here.  If enough people don't want the clear, fine..  it's not my decision anyways.  I won't be playing if there isn't a clear..  and i'm not saying there HAS to be one.  I'd like for one to happen, but if people don't want it, so be it.  The only way we can ever introduce the new ideas we have to the server is if we clear.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 20, 2004 10:23 am CDT
I am no longer going to be reading/posting in this thread because it is just become a bunch of repeditive stuff... like someone complains. Someone explains. someone complains. someone explains
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Post by: Kendril on August 20, 2004 11:12 am CDT
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My track record? I was here for a very short amount of time before the last clear, and I wasn't even the one who was pushing for it the hardest. Do you know how long iv'e been pushing Particle about a thousand different changes on the server?
Maybe I should have said the track record of those in charge so you wouldn't think I was singling you out. If you read my post I said i wasn't trying to flame and i ALSO brought up some of the changes particle was to implement but never did!
 
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So, I take no offense to your "ragging", but you don't even know half of the story. How about YOU bother Particle about it, instead of me having to be the annoying nagging one.
To me it sounds like you took my comments personally! I repeat what I said in my original post. This is in no way a flame torwards you guys. I have said it before and I will say it again I have no problems with any of the Admins. I like each and everyone of you. My comments are based on many comments of changes that were going to be implemented but never were. everyone that has been here for a decent amount of time can back that up. And no LW I am not pointing a finger at you! I know that ideas have to be implemented from a higher source. I just think that until these ideas are actually agreed on by Particle and are in the process of being implemented they shouldn't become public knowledge because everyone gets let down if they never happen!
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If you don't like the way things are going, i'm sorry.. because neither do I. After this clear happens, i'll do my best to change things around here, but i'm not the only one who has some changing to do.

I never said i didn't like the way you handled things. I have always thought of you as a really good Admin. The server needs good Admins like yourself--ON THAT NOTE: I think your Admin respectability degrades everytime you tell the forums your quitting Admin and then come back cause you change your mind. If things get tough just take a break. Quitting and coming back takes away from the respect that people have had for you. Your a good Admin and people count on you to be there for them. When you say your quitting over and over people lose trust.

I hope that you get the changes to the sever made I really do. It will be a long rough road from what I can see. I also hope you continue to do a great admin job and help all the new players that come into the game. They will have fun I am sure if you are around!
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Post by: Kyrie on August 20, 2004 06:58 pm CDT
It could be hard to keep an admin a secret for very long. They'd have to in essence be a normal player but with admin abilities. I mean, start them out and lvl 1, rl0, and let them play like normal people.
Even then, people who play enough may start to notice that certain things happen only when a certain player is around.
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Post by: GE on August 20, 2004 07:00 pm CDT
I smurf sometimes w/ pK abilities.. It's funny to see thier reaction when rule breakers get caught.. The are shocked.. and deny anything they've done wrong.
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Post by: villman420 on August 20, 2004 07:56 pm CDT
ge are u admin now?
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Post by: Aphex on August 20, 2004 08:04 pm CDT
no he's just a unsavory woman
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Post by: Jonah on August 20, 2004 08:06 pm CDT
GE is like... t3h c00l3st.
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Post by: Kendril on August 20, 2004 08:23 pm CDT
GE is one sexy piece of man-meat as well! Z-SNAP and a Circle! You go girlfriend! :lol:
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Post by: GE on August 20, 2004 08:36 pm CDT
lol no im not admin.. and im not sure what ***** is Aphex.. Once again Kendril ur homosexual antics toward me must stop lol
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Post by: Aphex on August 20, 2004 08:51 pm CDT
I think it said a s s
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 20, 2004 09:00 pm CDT
I think that ass is not sensored
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Post by: GE on August 20, 2004 09:09 pm CDT
Im not an ass Aphex *sticks out hand* "Your FIRED!!!!"
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Post by: Aphex on August 20, 2004 09:14 pm CDT
it probably said f ucker or somethng. I dunno
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Post by: KoRo on August 20, 2004 09:16 pm CDT
Question: If we did anything that got us banned TODAY, would we still be banned after the clear? Like, would our Chars be re-banned or something?
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Post by: Jonah on August 20, 2004 09:21 pm CDT
Ban Aphex for bypassing the swear filter.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 20, 2004 10:07 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
Quote from: "-Icer-"
Somebody buy me a freebord.
thx

You're ghey.


Ring any bells there mister?
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Post by: Aphex on August 20, 2004 10:08 pm CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
Question: If we did anything that got us banned TODAY, would we still be banned after the clear? Like, would our Chars be re-banned or something?


yes


and jonah is a cock.



maahah beat that swear filter!
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Post by: Jonah on August 20, 2004 10:24 pm CDT
"Gay" shouldn't even be in the swear filter in the first place.

And aphex is a bitch.
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Post by: Aphex on August 20, 2004 10:45 pm CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
"g**" shouldn't even be in the swear filter in the first place.

And aphex is a bitch.



ohnoes....
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 20, 2004 11:01 pm CDT
:roll: so immature
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Post by: Jonah on August 20, 2004 11:19 pm CDT
If you're calling me immature when I did the same exact thing as she did, then you're a complete idiot.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 20, 2004 11:23 pm CDT
Don't give me that ton of voice! Do you want a time out?

I was calling you both immature  :roll:
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Post by: Jonah on August 20, 2004 11:26 pm CDT
I was kidding.
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Post by: Aphex on August 21, 2004 12:19 am CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
I was kidding.



as was I. I really dont think jonah is a chicken.
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Post by: Jonah on August 21, 2004 12:36 am CDT
I'm pretty sure Aphex isn't a dog, too. Unless she's a genetically engineered super dog..
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Post by: Aphex on August 21, 2004 01:23 am CDT
maybe just a little.


hubba is a donkey.
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Post by: Razore on August 21, 2004 01:36 am CDT
Rofl.
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Post by: nesso on August 21, 2004 02:06 am CDT
umm so does anyone know if theres gnona be a clear for sure?

and if they do whens the date and time?
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Post by: Razore on August 21, 2004 02:20 am CDT
Tommorow. Tommorow.
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Post by: Corona on August 21, 2004 03:41 am CDT
Quote from: "LastWish"
You keep saying that you know I wasn't the one who first introduced the idea of a clear, but then you turn around and post things like i'm going behind people's backs here.  If enough people don't want the clear, fine..  it's not my decision anyways.  I won't be playing if there isn't a clear..  and i'm not saying there HAS to be one.  I'd like for one to happen, but if people don't want it, so be it.  The only way we can ever introduce the new ideas we have to the server is if we clear.


You may not be the one who introduced it, but you are pushing for the clear. And I've been giving everyone who wants a clear a hard time about it, I'm just bitter is all... it's not just you... :P

Your ideas are great, but if half the people who make the server what it is aren't around to enjoy them post-clear, what good does it do?

I'd support a clear, perhaps, if my best online friend and several important community members would stick around after the clear...

There has to be a better solution than this nonsense. The clear would cure the disease..... by killing the patient! Just do a coin clear, implement your changes to the dust system and whatever else, and then deal with the "problem Gods" on a case-by-case basis. There aren't that many of them, and none of them are troublemakers. It wouldn't be as fair this way, of course... but then, what's fair about tossing 7's char into the recycle bin, ruining his remort-777 mission for the second time? =p
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Post by: -Icer- on August 21, 2004 07:34 am CDT
I voted yes.. just for you Corona. :twisted:

Oh and I agree with removing the MD system.



P.S. Jonah is a whore.
P.P.S Jonah is also a whore.
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Post by: HUBBA on August 21, 2004 09:15 am CDT
How did my name get dragged into this?
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Post by: Jonah on August 21, 2004 09:45 am CDT
Devin is.. well his nickname is Ghetto child, I think that says enough.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 21, 2004 10:25 am CDT
The clear is today right?
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Post by: Aphex on August 21, 2004 11:11 am CDT
Quote from: "HUBBA"
How did my name get dragged into this?



you're a donkey
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Post by: Corona on August 21, 2004 12:05 pm CDT
Quote from: "-Icer-"
I voted yes.. just for you Corona. :lol:
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 21, 2004 12:13 pm CDT
Quote from: "FloPPy_PiLLoW"
The clear is today right?
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Post by: Jonah on August 21, 2004 12:23 pm CDT
No, there will be no clear.
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Post by: nesso on August 21, 2004 01:50 pm CDT
yeah! no clear

noob muggin spree here i come!!!!!
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 21, 2004 03:40 pm CDT
Who said no clear? Cause if there is no clear than I am quitting... gave all my stuff to the people in the well...
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Post by: Corona on August 21, 2004 03:48 pm CDT
Quote from: "FloPPy_PiLLoW"
Who said no clear? Cause if there is no clear than I am quitting... gave all my stuff to the people in the well...


It would be fitting for the person who suggested that idea in the first place to quit. Haha. I gave all my stuff away too... I'd still stay... :P
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Post by: Jonah on August 21, 2004 03:54 pm CDT
There will be no clear, Particle posted it in the thread titled "Which mousepad do you use?".
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Post by: Kendril on August 21, 2004 04:14 pm CDT
ROFL :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Jonah on August 21, 2004 04:16 pm CDT
The problem with that mousepad is that after 17 or so years of use the fibers tend to wear. That's why I use the Ultra-slick Metalpad.
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Post by: Kendril on August 21, 2004 04:18 pm CDT
Good point/well thought out and said! I will take that worthy advice and go out immediatly and purchase one of those pads! TY TY For your expertise on this paticular matter!
you are the 1337est :?  :roll: )
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Post by: KoRo on August 21, 2004 04:19 pm CDT
wtf? mouse pads or clear????? clear mouse pads?  :?
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Post by: Jonah on August 21, 2004 04:22 pm CDT
The great thing about the maxi-pad with things is the wings on the side allow for maximum side to side movement. I give it a 8 out of 10, since sometimes you will find blood inside it.
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Post by: KoRo on August 21, 2004 04:24 pm CDT
omg lol thats gross
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Post by: Aphex on August 21, 2004 05:12 pm CDT
whoa.


I like my max payne mouse pad.
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Post by: nesso on August 21, 2004 08:52 pm CDT
dude man you guys are all rich!!!

i can't even afford a mouse pad!!!

my mouse is on the carpet!
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 21, 2004 08:57 pm CDT
hahahaha i have a logitech mouse pad with the gel and the optical wireless mouse
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Post by: Kyrie on August 21, 2004 09:26 pm CDT
I made my own mouse pad out of an awesome graphic a friend made.
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Post by: GE on August 21, 2004 09:31 pm CDT
haha Nice sig Taurik.
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Post by: Razore on August 21, 2004 09:35 pm CDT
I see the clear didnt happen.
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Post by: Corona on August 21, 2004 10:42 pm CDT
Quote from: "GE"
haha Nice sig Taurik.


Hehe, I thought I'd try the nesso method
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Post by: Particle on August 21, 2004 10:44 pm CDT
Alright, we're gunna clear when I get access.
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Post by: Corona on August 21, 2004 10:54 pm CDT
*sigh*
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Post by: 7 on August 21, 2004 11:00 pm CDT
Q    how long untill the clear after this one ?
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 21, 2004 11:02 pm CDT
when it gets out of control again...
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Post by: Aphex on August 21, 2004 11:05 pm CDT
le sigh


 :cry:
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 21, 2004 11:10 pm CDT
hehe oh well maybe it wont get out of control as fast...admins need to be konked on the head when they fork up and get like suspended or w\e
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 21, 2004 11:40 pm CDT
YAY! Clear! WOOT!

And why don't you limit the power of the admins  :oops:  make it so that they can't just level them selves with admin, cause you know how crappy it is to get to a certain level, and it is no better, because the admin has already beaten you to it? We want to be proud and say stuff like "I am the highest RL in the server" It just isn't possible when admins are RL 100+ with level 1337.

Anyways. Not to rag on the admins, but please try to do it without ANY admin powers.

YAY! Clear! WOOT!
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Post by: 7 on August 21, 2004 11:43 pm CDT
I say dont clear the characters.


Just clear the bank.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 21, 2004 11:44 pm CDT
We have been over this, the money has already been used for what the people needed to use it for. Dust.
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Post by: Aphex on August 22, 2004 12:23 am CDT
when the sever is cleared I am going to play like a normal character. I am however not doing as many quests.  And I will be enforcing the rules to a 't'  That means no bending the rules 'just for you' and I will not slide because it was the first time. The server is going to be done right this time and I dont want you guys thinking you can get away wtih malarkey just becasue the server is going to be cleared soon.
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 22, 2004 12:24 am CDT
If any Admin gives themself a level, I'm out.  :P
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 22, 2004 01:04 am CDT
lol you know thats the first thing one of em is gonna do
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 01:29 am CDT
I'm not even playing on my admin character unless we are doing a quest or someone is causing enough trouble for it.
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Post by: GE on August 22, 2004 01:31 am CDT
Thought you were giving up admin
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 01:41 am CDT
If someone is doing something that requires a kick, and no other admin is on, i'll have to..  I plan on keeping it for a few weeks after the clear to make sure things go smoothly, since I was one of the people calling for it.  Snails is getting admin as well, so after all that happens, i'm having Particle remove admin from Solaris.
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Post by: GE on August 22, 2004 01:43 am CDT
k. I wasn't being a dlck about it, I just didn't know if you decited to keep admin or what  :wink:
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 01:45 am CDT
I hope I won't need to use it at all, other than help with any quests that Aphex/Lucid/Snails do.  I'll still be working with the Dev team for updates and mods, though.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 22, 2004 01:48 am CDT
bahahahaha..... i have no idea
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Post by: KoRo on August 22, 2004 02:01 am CDT
And we'll all float on again...
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 02:04 am CDT
So I take it you are staying through the clear GE?

As que yo lo tomo usted permanece por el GE claro?

Nehme so ich es, der Sie durch den klaren GE bleiben?

Dunque lo porto lei stanno attraverso il GE chiaro?

Zo dat ik hem neem die u door de heldere GE blijft?

Ento eu tomo permanecem pelo GE claro?

Так что я беру это, Вы остаетесь через ясную Дженерал Электрик?

S jeg tar det som De blir gjennom den klare GE?

这样我花费它你停留通过清楚的 GE?

這樣我花費它你停留通過清楚的 GE?
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 02:05 am CDT
Someone found a language translator way too amusing :)
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 02:06 am CDT
What makes you think that :P
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Post by: GE on August 22, 2004 02:10 am CDT
Yes, with a name Floppy_pillow most dont see you as beeing a person who can speack many languages. :P
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 02:12 am CDT
Yes, and with a name like GE I am guessing people think you can't even speak english? Like GE doesn't spell anything. Why is that your name?
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Post by: GE on August 22, 2004 02:15 am CDT
GE is an abbrivition. It means Gods Eye, way back in 1998 I wanted a name nobody else used. My speciality was sniping so I thought of a cheesy ass name for a good sniper.


And no I "don't bring good things to life"  :lol:
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 02:17 am CDT
What about bad things :roll:
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Post by: nesso on August 22, 2004 02:19 am CDT
HURRY BEFORE THE CLEAR!!!

BEAT DOWN ON ALL NOOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 02:24 am CDT
..in THE FACE!!!1
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Post by: nesso on August 22, 2004 02:28 am CDT
WHY OH WHY?!!?!?

NOT THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: KoRo on August 22, 2004 02:49 am CDT
Ow that hurt ><
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 22, 2004 04:11 am CDT
now that i havent played pcrpg in a while, i may as well just scout out the post-clear stuff to see if i actually wanna "put time" into the server...
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 10:44 am CDT
Uh huh.. you know you wanna play :)
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Post by: GodspeedFx on August 22, 2004 11:07 am CDT
I'm playin..  and you know you like the sig :P

Which one looks better..  black stroke or blue stroke?

(http://http://www.lineageunderground.com/alorien/godspeedsig2.jpg)
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Post by: Aphex on August 22, 2004 11:24 am CDT
they are the same.
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 22, 2004 11:26 am CDT
Quote from: "nesso"
HURRY BEFORE THE CLEAR!!!

BEAT DOWN ON ALL NOOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


*Smacks chest* *Does Battle Cry* For the kingdom!
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 12:19 pm CDT
HAHAHA! Damn Black that made me actually laugh out loud! TARZAN!
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 22, 2004 03:38 pm CDT
w00t so i take it the clear is happening now since there is no server??
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Post by: Kyrie on August 22, 2004 03:47 pm CDT
No, they just want you to think that so you get all excited when you see the server is back.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 03:51 pm CDT
No... Apperently it is main server problems... atleast that's what I heard.
Title: The Clear
Post by: NiGhTmArE on August 22, 2004 09:46 pm CDT
Alot of people don't want the clear but can't vote because they have invalid e-mail's like hotmail and such. There are even players who don't play anymore voting yes, when most of the people who still play don't approve of the clear. Solaris used her admin to try to force the clear to happen by giving out millions of exp.
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 09:49 pm CDT
Cry about it jesus christ, It is just a game. Don't like the clear? Leave.
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Post by: NiGhTmArE on August 22, 2004 09:57 pm CDT
Floppy pillow do you still play?
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 09:59 pm CDT
Yah, which is more than I can say for you :roll:
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Post by: GE on August 22, 2004 10:07 pm CDT
Quote from: "FloPPy_PiLLoW"
Cry about it jesus christ, It is just a game. Don't like the clear? Leave.


You hipicrit, Your always complaing if thier isnt a clear you are quiting.   Its just a game right floppy
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 22, 2004 10:27 pm CDT
hypocrite
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 22, 2004 10:35 pm CDT
What I am saying is different. I am Saying don't like it leave. So how does that make me a Hypocrite? If The clear doesn't happen, I will not like it, There for I will leave.
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Post by: Jonah on August 22, 2004 10:39 pm CDT
Quote from: "FloPPy_PiLLoW"
This is stupid I lost 122 RP thanks to the stupid restore because I thought it was only the hacked that was going to be restored.... Gee could that be because none of the admins will actually tell me anything? I am sick and tired of being ignored.... What a waste of my time!!! Maybe next time you could tell us it is gonna be a mass restore not just those who have been hacked....

PS this is so g**


I must be seeing things, because this almost looks like Floppy complaining about losing something in "just a game".
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 11:03 pm CDT
Don't make me have to lock this thread..  just stop arguing =/
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Post by: villman420 on August 22, 2004 11:09 pm CDT
so how long till the server is back up?
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Post by: LastWish on August 22, 2004 11:17 pm CDT
I' not sure..  I guess Particle's FTP access must still be broken.
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Post by: Jonah on August 22, 2004 11:18 pm CDT
You made a typo.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on August 23, 2004 12:50 am CDT
im not sure lol
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Post by: nesso on August 23, 2004 01:36 am CDT
argif!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: No
Post by: DaveMan on August 23, 2004 05:32 am CDT
i voted no, but part has spoken. :cry:
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Post by: villman420 on August 23, 2004 07:25 am CDT
sol is sleep to dream a band or is it just an expression?

u ever heard of armor for sleep. all there songs are about sleep

Perhaps the most reflective moments of our lives are lived in the minutes before sleep completely drowns out our consciousness. We are forced to face our thoughts and at the same time admit that sleep will soon wash them all away. Armor for Sleep is about capturing these moments...
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Post by: LastWish on August 23, 2004 09:20 am CDT
It's the name of a song by Fiona Apple :P
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Post by: Xanth on August 23, 2004 09:57 am CDT
ZZzzZzZZZzzZZzZzZzzZzZzz..oh.. soryy...
LOL     :lol:
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 23, 2004 06:17 pm CDT
Quote from: "villman420"
sol is sleep to dream a band or is it just an expression?

u ever heard of armor for sleep. all there songs are about sleep

Perhaps the most reflective moments of our lives are lived in the minutes before sleep completely drowns out our consciousness. We are forced to face our thoughts and at the same time admit that sleep will soon wash them all away. Armor for Sleep is about capturing these moments...


I made a song for them.

Sleep.

I am sleepin all day!
He was like saying HEY!
ZzZ! Go eat some Hay!
Down by the bay!
Hey hey hey hey!
He saw me in his dream!
He was like hey are you gay?
I was like NAY!
I can't believe the month!
It was may!
May may may!
So like I was saying!
I asked him a question when he was yaying!
He was like, totally Cindy like, kay!

Jonah helped me think of this. THX JONAH NAY!
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Post by: Jonah on August 23, 2004 06:18 pm CDT
I did not help in any way to produce this or any other song by Black-Ice.
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Post by: Particle on August 23, 2004 06:19 pm CDT
Damnit this thread gew fast.
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Post by: Aphex on August 23, 2004 06:29 pm CDT
Quote from: "Particle"
Damnit this thread gew fast.


*coughthatmeansyoushouldcleartheserverbecausemorethanhalfthepeoplewho actuallyplayhavntvotedordontevenknowthereisavote!!!cough***


damn
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 23, 2004 07:17 pm CDT
Quote from: "Particle"
Damnit this thread gew fast.


Y'Halo Ther
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 23, 2004 07:19 pm CDT
i swear... with nesso's and part's avatars and sigs, i get confused as to who the hell is who
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 23, 2004 07:37 pm CDT
Quote from: "Aphex"
Quote from: "Particle"
Damnit this thread gew fast.

*coughthatmeansyoushouldcleartheserverbecausemorethanhalfthepeoplewho actuallyplayhavntvotedordontevenknowthereisavote!!!cough***


damn


You might want to get that cough looked at...
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Post by: Aphex on August 23, 2004 07:39 pm CDT
I know, it hurts
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Post by: FloPPy_PiLLoW on August 23, 2004 07:40 pm CDT
Hard to cough that all in one breath?
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Post by: Jonah on August 23, 2004 11:41 pm CDT
You guys might be wondering why you are losing your chars.

You might be wondering who forked you over.

http://www.pcrpg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.p ... t=problems (http://www.pcrpg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2334&highlight=problems)

That's who forked you over.

Thanks, Aphex.
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Post by: Aphex on August 24, 2004 12:03 am CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
You guys might be wondering why you are losing your chars.

You might be wondering who f*** you over.

http://www.pcrpg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.p ... t=problems (http://www.pcrpg.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2334&highlight=problems)

That's who f*** you over.

Thanks, Aphex.


thanks for what???
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Post by: Jonah on August 24, 2004 12:04 am CDT
Sarcasm, it's your friend.

If you don't feel like reading alot, just skip to page 3 of that link I posted.
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Post by: Aphex on August 24, 2004 12:09 am CDT
Quote from: "Jonah"
Sarcasm, it's your friend.

If you don't feel like reading alot, just skip to page 3 of that link I posted.



die.
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Post by: Jonah on August 24, 2004 12:11 am CDT
I'm not suprised that's all you have to say.

Not much needs to be said.
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Post by: nesso on August 24, 2004 01:10 am CDT
Quote from: "DeadBreed"
i swear... with nesso's and part's avatars and sigs, i get confused as to who the hell is who


for me i can tell who's who =P
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Post by: KoRo on August 24, 2004 01:17 am CDT
nesso's AMD logo looks kinda dildoish to me... Klingon dildo!
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 24, 2004 03:47 am CDT
Quote from: "nesso"
Quote from: "DeadBreed"
i swear... with nesso's and part's avatars and sigs, i get confused as to who the hell is who

for me i can tell who's who =P
well no s***....  its a bit hard on a quick glance though..
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Post by: Xanth on August 24, 2004 02:27 pm CDT
*Takes Deads blind fold off*
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 24, 2004 03:50 pm CDT
Quote from: "Xanth"
*Takes Deads blind fold off*
MY EYES THEY BURN!!!!
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Post by: Xanth on August 24, 2004 03:52 pm CDT
Quote from: "DeadBreed"
Quote from: "Xanth"
*Takes Deads blind fold off*
MY EYES THEY BURN!!!!

ROFL, Ya got me!
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Post by: DeadBreed on August 24, 2004 03:57 pm CDT
Quote from: "Xanth"
Quote from: "DeadBreed"
Quote from: "Xanth"
*Takes Deads blind fold off*
MY EYES THEY BURN!!!!
ROFL, Ya got me!
 :P
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on August 25, 2004 01:21 pm CDT
Quote from: "Aphex"
Quote from: "Jonah"
Sarcasm, it's your friend.

If you don't feel like reading alot, just skip to page 3 of that link I posted.


die.


Right back at you.
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Post by: LastWish on August 26, 2004 07:15 am CDT
Damn..  that guy in your sig got layed out.
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Post by: Xanth on August 26, 2004 12:45 pm CDT
Yup, lol
but I dislike the sig because it lag-o-fies my labs computer, lol!
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Post by: nesso on August 26, 2004 01:56 pm CDT
Quote from: "DeadBreed"
Quote from: "Xanth"
Quote from: "DeadBreed"
Quote from: "Xanth"
*Takes Deads blind fold off*
MY EYES THEY BURN!!!!
ROFL, Ya got me!
 :P


boohoo hooo i added somthing to my sig now
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Post by: Xanth on August 26, 2004 02:10 pm CDT
ROFL
 :roll:
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Post by: KoRo on August 28, 2004 01:13 pm CDT
Any news on when the clear might be?
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Post by: Sl_I/\/\s|-|Ady on August 28, 2004 01:14 pm CDT
5pm tomorrow.  That's what I hear.
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Post by: KoRo on August 28, 2004 01:15 pm CDT
whered u hear tat?
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Post by: Sl_I/\/\s|-|Ady on August 28, 2004 01:16 pm CDT
Particie said it.
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Post by: KoRo on August 28, 2004 01:19 pm CDT
woot! woot! particle...5pm tomorrow? SWEET ill be home tomorrow.
So how does a clear work? Will he just 'clear' the server, and then at 5pm it'll open back up as a fresh server?

Oh wait and also, will there be a new patch to DL for all the additions to the server? I hope so.... :P
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Post by: Sl_I/\/\s|-|Ady on August 28, 2004 01:28 pm CDT
He clears out all the files and you have to grab your name quickly b4 anyone else gets it.
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Post by: Jonah on August 28, 2004 01:30 pm CDT
KoRo is so gullable  :roll:
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Post by: KoRo on August 28, 2004 01:40 pm CDT
Hey I have no one else telling me anything else. Not even LW or Part....
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Post by: Jonah on August 28, 2004 01:43 pm CDT
When Particle gets access to FTP he will clear the chars, you stupid, stupid, person.
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Post by: KoRo on August 28, 2004 01:54 pm CDT
Thats what everyone has been saying, but I thot he already got his FTP back up  :shock:
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Post by: LastWish on August 28, 2004 04:44 pm CDT
No news from Particle yet.. I assume it's still down.
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Post by: KoRo on August 29, 2004 02:23 pm CDT
Thank you LW. BTW, yur sexy  :P
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Post by: HUBBA on August 29, 2004 09:32 pm CDT
I hope it is soon. Getting tired of playing TVT.
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Post by: nesso on August 30, 2004 05:17 am CDT
dude man get FFXI! it's so fun and time consuming! it officially states that you have no life thats how freaking fun it is and theres so much stuff to do
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Post by: Xanth on August 30, 2004 09:46 am CDT
Quote from: "nesso"
dude man get FFXI! it's so fun and time consuming! it officially states that you have no life thats how freaking fun it is and theres so much stuff to do


Is it only on PS2?  I want it for XBox.  I wish the idiots at XBox would pull there heads out and offer a wider array of games.
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Post by: HUBBA on August 30, 2004 11:59 am CDT
FFxi huh? Maybe I will try it. Have to dig my games out of a box somewhere though. Nah to lazy :roll: Maybe later.
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Post by: Razore on August 30, 2004 12:16 pm CDT
FFXI is computer.

It sucks.

It REALLY sucks.
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Post by: nesso on August 30, 2004 06:21 pm CDT
FFXI has a monthly fee, beware!!!!

thats what makes it so awesome, no lag at all and server never crashes
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Post by: WolfTones on August 31, 2004 12:12 pm CDT
Quote from: "nesso"
FFXI has a monthly fee, beware!!!!

thats what makes it so awesome, no lag at all and server never crashes


That doesn't make it awesome at all. Look at Americas Army!! It's free, and there is a LOT of lag free offical servers to play on.
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Post by: Razore on August 31, 2004 12:13 pm CDT
Quote from: "nesso"
FFXI has a monthly fee, beware!!!!

thats what makes it so awesome, no lag at all and server never crashes


One word:


Dumbass


It crashes, and goes down alot for updates, and it costs so much. Plus the game is terrible.
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Post by: nesso on August 31, 2004 02:07 pm CDT
what level are you razore?

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dude im play FFXI on 56k and i get absolutly no lag
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Post by: WolfTones on August 31, 2004 02:17 pm CDT
Quote from: "nesso"
what level are you razore?

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dude im play FFXI on 56k and i get absolutly no lag


Lag is not allways visible!
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Post by: Xanth on August 31, 2004 02:22 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Lag is not allways visible!


Then its not LAG is it.... :roll:
lol
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Post by: WH-Lightning on August 31, 2004 04:52 pm CDT
Quote from: "WolfTones"
Quote from: "nesso"
what level are you razore?

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dude im play FFXI on 56k and i get absolutly no lag

Lag is not allways visible!



Celtic is right. Sometimes you'll get the invisible kind of lag that really doesn't effect anything, slow the game, or mess with your timing.

It's really the worst type of lag.
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Post by: KoRo on August 31, 2004 05:20 pm CDT
wth other kind of lag is there? if it doesnt affect the game in some visible way, what does it do?
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Post by: nesso on August 31, 2004 05:58 pm CDT
still my connection to the server is always 100% only when it drops down is when i lag a little bit, but it's never gotten below 95% so it doesn't matter much
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Post by: LastWish on September 1, 2004 10:36 am CDT
haha one time i got connection 243% and i could c into the futur!!1
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Post by: Cooled on September 1, 2004 11:57 am CDT
i voted yes.. would be nice with a clear of all this junk :o
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Post by: KoRo on September 1, 2004 04:46 pm CDT
Wow uhm......I didn't know anyone still payed attention to the acctual TOPIC of the thread anymore! lol
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Post by: PaPrKuT on September 1, 2004 08:46 pm CDT
i vote yes.... give us new players a chance XD
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 1, 2004 08:48 pm CDT
Well, people are just NOW are learning about the clear instock.
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Post by: nesso on September 1, 2004 11:50 pm CDT
Quote from: "PaPrKuT"
i vote yes.... give us new players a chance XD


wtf, new players had a chance all the time....
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Post by: PaPrKuT on September 2, 2004 07:01 am CDT
actualy this kaiosRPG. he bashes new players and stuff all the time then when a high lvl comes after him he leaves then comes back and does it again...
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Post by: PaPrKuT on September 2, 2004 07:02 am CDT
oh and he mugs noobs also
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Post by: Xanth on September 2, 2004 10:11 am CDT
*Pulls Large lever*
*Watches  evil meany fall into recycle bin on desk top*
 :twisted:
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Post by: nesso on September 3, 2004 01:57 pm CDT
Quote from: "PaPrKuT"
actualy this kaiosRPG. he bashes new players and stuff all the time then when a high lvl comes after him he leaves then comes back and does it again...

Quote from: "PaPrKuT"
oh and he mugs noobs also



....big forking deal, a smarter idea is to NOT PLAY ON THE SERVER
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 3, 2004 09:14 pm CDT
nesso, you seriously need to stop acting like Celtic.
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Post by: nesso on September 4, 2004 06:10 am CDT
how about you suck it
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 4, 2004 09:53 am CDT
My point proven. :lol:
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Post by: nesso on September 4, 2004 03:18 pm CDT
Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: 12Stones on September 4, 2004 04:08 pm CDT
I think the real question here is, does he act like Celtic on purpose, or is he naturally an idiot?  :roll:
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 5, 2004 03:39 am CDT
I think it comes natural, but Celtic is his rolemodel. They both even themselves out.  :lol:
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Post by: KoRo on September 5, 2004 06:06 am CDT
I was gonna say that he idolizes celtic and immitates him.....o wellz
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 5, 2004 09:51 am CDT
He wouldn't do that to Celtic, his master.
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Post by: KoRo on September 5, 2004 02:24 pm CDT
heh, he would make him look bad  :P
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Post by: 12Stones on September 5, 2004 06:03 pm CDT
So when is this clear going to happen?  Did everyone just give up and decide to leave the server down?  I was going to come back to trpg when it cleared  :?
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Post by: KoRo on September 5, 2004 07:01 pm CDT
Ya server has been down for days. I dunno whats goin on
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 5, 2004 10:11 pm CDT
I was actually looking forward to seeing everyone level 1. Guess not.
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Post by: Aphex on September 5, 2004 10:37 pm CDT
harhar the clear was just a big joke. harharhar....











note*nothing I just said was true.
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Post by: WolfTones on September 6, 2004 01:14 am CDT
Someone using my name in vain?
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Post by: KoRo on September 6, 2004 04:19 am CDT
Uh not that I know of...
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Post by: KoRo on September 6, 2004 04:20 am CDT
Uh not that I know of...
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Post by: Razore on September 6, 2004 10:16 am CDT
OH NOES! SOMEBODY USED HIS NAME IN VAIN! RUN EVERYONE! HES GOING TO HACK YOUR CHARACTER! HELL USE IT TO KILL NEWBIES AND SAY IT WAS YOU AND GET YOU BANNED
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Post by: WolfTones on September 6, 2004 10:24 am CDT
Big words from the spotty faced little kid!
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 6, 2004 12:20 pm CDT
Wow, Celtic is finally coming back to normal. Where ya been Celtic? We need you back. It's not fun without you. C-e-l-e-b-r-a-t-e good times, oh yeah!
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Post by: KoRo on September 6, 2004 02:17 pm CDT
What do u mean coming back? When did he leave?

AND WHY DO PEOPLE CALL HIM CELTIC!!? HIS NAME IS WOLFTONES!!!!!
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Post by: nesso on September 6, 2004 02:36 pm CDT
you're too young to remember koro
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Post by: 12Stones on September 6, 2004 02:53 pm CDT
I think people call him celtic because his old reputation was more appealing (or bad) than his new?  Just an observation..
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Post by: WolfTones on September 6, 2004 02:55 pm CDT
Actually I really started out as WolfTones...Then I Started using the alias Celtic16. Quite honestly I could write a book about myself and my online history :D
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Post by: 12Stones on September 6, 2004 03:00 pm CDT
I'd buy it, just to see why so many people hate you.. :)
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 6, 2004 08:16 pm CDT
There was a thread about him. When he was known as Chaos. Silv ended up owning him, as always.
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Post by: KoRo on September 6, 2004 11:52 pm CDT
i know he's celtic in game but wtf dont u just call him wolf in forums?
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Post by: 12Stones on September 7, 2004 12:35 am CDT
Who cares? lol
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 7, 2004 03:06 am CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
i know he's celtic in game but wtf dont u just call him wolf in forums?


Think of it like this; it's a tradition.
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Post by: nesso on September 7, 2004 04:15 am CDT
.........
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Post by: WolfTones on September 7, 2004 07:42 am CDT
....you.....are.....a cock face!!!
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 7, 2004 09:09 am CDT
I'm starting to like Celtic.  :lol:
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Post by: KoRo on September 7, 2004 03:45 pm CDT
Can't he just stick to one or the other? It confuses the hell outta me! It's been bothering me for the last year now!
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Post by: WolfTones on September 7, 2004 03:49 pm CDT
Quote from: "KoRo"
Can't he just stick to one or the other? It confuses the hell outta me! It's been bothering me for the last year now!


who and what the fuk are you talking about?
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Post by: KoRo on September 7, 2004 04:07 pm CDT
YOU, WOLFTONES!!!!
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Post by: nesso on September 8, 2004 02:25 am CDT
it's celtic stupid face!
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Post by: Seasomeor on September 9, 2004 03:47 pm CDT
lol I voted yes... as if i have a character anyways :P
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Post by: nesso on September 9, 2004 08:26 pm CDT
Quote from: "Seasomeor"
lol I voted yes... as if i have a character anyways :P


hey how about....


stfu
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on September 9, 2004 09:10 pm CDT
ladeda waiting now i think ironmaiden is on vacation
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Post by: BlAcK-IcE on September 9, 2004 09:11 pm CDT
Quote from: "nesso"
Quote from: "Seasomeor"
lol I voted yes... as if i have a character anyways :P

hey how about....


stfu


nesso, please. Go take your pills crazy boy.
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Post by: Vorter_X_ on September 9, 2004 09:16 pm CDT
hahahahahaha i hate arguing



STFU
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Post by: WolfTones on September 9, 2004 09:19 pm CDT
(http://http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.php/463c5922/arguing.jpg)

Old..but dues the job!
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Post by: Taurik on February 25, 2006 09:51 pm CST
Pomgz vote no!
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Post by: KoRo on February 25, 2006 11:01 pm CST
Bastard.
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Post by: WhoCouldIBe on February 26, 2006 06:54 am CST
Do you have any hobbies? Sports? Going out anywhere? Anything? ...
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Post by: Xenos on February 26, 2006 08:31 am CST
Quote from: "Taurik"
Pomgz vote no!

Grave digger.

Quote from: "WhoCouldIBe"
Do you have any hobbies? Sports? Going out anywhere? Anything? ...


Its funny to read his old wolftones/celtic posts to see he was always this dumb.
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Post by: WhoCouldIBe on February 26, 2006 11:14 am CST
Quote from: "Xenos"
Quote from: "Taurik"
Pomgz vote no!

Grave digger.

Quote from: "WhoCouldIBe"
Do you have any hobbies? Sports? Going out anywhere? Anything? ...

Its funny to read his old wolftones/celtic posts to see he was always this dumb.



Hold up.. You're calling me dumb after you call corona a grave digger for bring up an OLD THREAD....Then i post after him...

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Do you have any hobbies? Sports? Going out anywhere? Anything? ...





Ya...you're REAL bright eh? About has sharp as a bowling ball Xenos!
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Post by: ChineseNeil on February 26, 2006 11:39 am CST
Quote from: "nesso"
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damn nesso you're hot like my face
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Post by: KoRo on February 26, 2006 08:59 pm CST
Neil is gaaay! Another Neil is gay video! :lol: