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« on: June 15, 2006 03:29 pm CDT »
In tangent with my previous Networking thread, I have taken to new light.


What i mean is that I am attempting to set this server up as an FTP server. I have opened the correct ports on the router and have followed all the steps according to Windows tech support.

Currently, all of the computers that are connected to the network are able to ftp into the server via its internal address (ftp://192.168.1.16). However, the only thing people outside of the network are able to see is the router, and that's by using it's external address.

All i simply need to do is get it so anyone can type in the IP of the server and FTP into it. I know I shouldnt have to purchase my own domain name from the ISP, so that shouldn't be suggested.

It seems so simple, just to be able to tunnel in through this router and into the FTP server, and i've check out every option I can think of, but I cannot get it to work.

SS 1 of server:
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2006 03:33 pm CDT »
You just need to forward port 21 on the router to the internal address of the server. On my linksys(sveasoft) router that is under "Applications & Gaming".
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2006 03:42 pm CDT »
This router is very different. It's a Cayman Netopia 3500, and I had to call the tech support just to guide me to the port allowing. They called it "Pinholes". The settings page looks like this, maybe you can translate it?



*Edit*
When I try toying around in the IPMaps section, I get the same error after each session:

WARNING: IP Map FTP Server external address (censored ip address) may not be on WAN network
ERROR: IP Map FTP Server and pinhole FTP Server have the same internal address

I guess this isnt how to forward, because its not forwarding o.O
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2006 03:53 pm CDT »
User manual: http://http://www.netopia.com/support/hardware/manuals/3500_64manual.pdf

Page 48 is "Pinhole Configuration Procedure".

When you "Add" a pinhole use "ftp server" as the name, Protocol is TCP, External Port start is 21, External port end is 21, Internal IP Address is 192.168.1.16, and the interal port is 21.

You dont want IPMaps.  I dont know why I looked that up for you but enjoy.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2006 03:59 pm CDT »
*Edit*
Okay we just found out that port forwarding and opening a port are the same thing....so we've done all that (and its been open for the last hour) but we are still unable to access the server from an external computer.

Is there a specific thing we need to type into the address bar to get it to work?
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2006 04:19 pm CDT »
Should be as simple as ftping to the exteral ip address from outside the office.  Dont try and ftp to the external ip from inside the office. That wont work on some routers/firewall/gateways.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2006 04:25 pm CDT »
the only external ip I can find is that of the router (the WAN ip, i believe)
The external is 69.226.77.158, so do I type in ftp://69.226.77.158 ?

When outside office people try to type that in, they're supposed to get a prompt to enter a username and password (I disabled 'allow anonymous users'). Instead, they get a "page cannot be displayed" error. What does that signify?
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2006 05:05 pm CDT »
ftp://69.226.77.158

You need to have the ip:port

ftp://69.226.77.158:21   <- Try that


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I tried clicking on the address and managed to get to the prompt screen where it asks for a Username.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2006 05:28 pm CDT »
Update:
My mom was able to get to it using ftp://69.226.77.158 and log on from my house across town (different ISP as well), and a few others were able to get to the login screen, but no further.

However, my mom ran into an issue w/ firefox. It would work with IE, but mozilla would give an error with "530 user mozilla@example.com cannot log in." I'm not sure what it means, but at the very least, IE worked...

Unfortunately, out of 4 people, she was the only one to do it successfully. What the heck?
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2006 06:00 pm CDT »
Forwarding works fine now.  If you can't log in you didnt set up the ftp user permissions on the server correctly.

I got the login prompt just fine with firefox and also tried the ftp command.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2006 04:03 am CDT »
Yeah we finally got it working....i dont know what we did exactly, but it works.......for now.
I get the feeling that it'll stop working pretty much after the first day. But it works. And I learned something. Mission accomplished.

Thanks for all your help. You really did help clear things up for me.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2006 10:46 pm CDT »
It's working fine....set me up an account so I can load it with pr0n.

just kidding.  But I was able to get a logon prompt from the browser.  I would suggest using a separate client, though, or perhaps the firefox extension Fireftp.  Clients seem to be much more managable to me than working through a browser.
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