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Silvanoshei

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« Reply #225 on: May 7, 2003 09:29 pm CDT »
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I've never read anything relating this, but it seems like it wouldn't be possible to have an atom with NO electrons in it.. yeah you can remove them, but all of them?


Yes. Duh!
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« Reply #226 on: May 7, 2003 09:57 pm CDT »
Ok..

Let me explain this in full detail so no more misconceptions can be made.

A hydrogen atom can have 0 electrons and become a neutral atom.. In this however, it is not possible for the atom to make the same chemical reactions as we get from the sun.

The sun uses fusion. So if anything it would add electrons. Not get rid of them.
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« Reply #227 on: May 7, 2003 10:33 pm CDT »
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A hydrogen atom can have 0 electrons and become a neutral atom..


*sigh*

No.
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« Reply #228 on: May 7, 2003 10:34 pm CDT »
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Since when are we talking about neutral atoms all of a sudden


in order for an atom to be naturally occuring, it is completely neutral.

and silv is right, a hydrogen atom cannot contain 0 electrons and be neutral, it must have at least 1 to be neutral or 2 to be covalently bonded to another element.

and yes, you can remove all electrons from any given atom, working through quantum physics and a few other theories, you start with the highest energy shell and work your way in, the farther in you go, the more and more energy it takes to remove the electrons from the atom.  once you get to a certain point, the human race's own energy supplies cannot even take some electrons away, which is why the higher the atomic number, the harder to strip of all electrons.
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eViL, you were probably the coolest but most misunderstood person in this community.. maybe the rest will find out how cool of a person you are some day, and don't get too mad at the people who dont understand you.. its their loss in the end.

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« Reply #229 on: May 8, 2003 02:20 am CDT »
Who cares about all this crap?? You guys get WAY too worked up lol.
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« Reply #230 on: May 8, 2003 06:32 am CDT »
I Love Mama?
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« Reply #231 on: May 8, 2003 08:13 am CDT »
Hot headed teenagers allready at each others throuts :p
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« Reply #232 on: May 8, 2003 09:54 am CDT »
Well, we like it because it gives our minds something to think about, and we get to share information and we all gain intelligence.  If you don't like it... I don't know what to say.  It's almost like having a conversation with your friend with the theories on Quantum Physics, you do it because it makes your mind think.  If you don't, it's because your mind is too lazy and you don't want to have to think, and just take everything for granted.

And to Newbie about the "You are an idiot" link.  I'd advise you take it off.  Even though I can run that on my machine all day and probably still wouldn't crash (I use Mozilla) it's just being an asshole to the tons of other people that actually do click it.
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« Reply #233 on: May 8, 2003 10:38 am CDT »
lol.. its an awesome.. link.. and if your too dumb to know how to close it.. then its your own fault  :cry:
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« Reply #234 on: May 8, 2003 11:08 am CDT »
link?
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« Reply #235 on: May 8, 2003 11:34 am CDT »
Newbie's sig. Go to it.   :twisted:
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« Reply #236 on: May 8, 2003 11:42 am CDT »
lol








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« Reply #237 on: May 9, 2003 06:33 pm CDT »
....Must... not, let... DIE!
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« Reply #238 on: May 9, 2003 08:13 pm CDT »
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in order for an atom to be naturally occuring, it is completely neutral.

Uh... nope. Pretty much everything around you is either positive or negative, bonded to each other.

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the farther in you go, the more and more energy it takes to remove the electrons from the atom.  once you get to a certain point, the human race's own energy supplies cannot even take some electrons away, which is why the higher the atomic number, the harder to strip of all electrons.


Not quite. That's a general rule of thumb, but it's not always true. Refer to the activity series charts...
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« Reply #239 on: May 9, 2003 08:55 pm CDT »
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in order for an atom to be naturally occuring, it is completely neutral.

Uh... nope. Pretty much everything around you is either positive or negative, bonded to each other.


i am tired of argueing, when you bond an element, it is no longer considered natural.  bonding changes the electron pattern between the elements and therefor you end up with either covalent or ionic bonds.

p.s. - air is considered a covalent bond, and so since air takes up "pretty much everything around" me, the air is not ionic (O2+H2+N2+Other=Air) and so therefor that statement is false.
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eViL, you were probably the coolest but most misunderstood person in this community.. maybe the rest will find out how cool of a person you are some day, and don't get too mad at the people who dont understand you.. its their loss in the end.
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