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Peltier Update
« on: June 17, 2004 08:57 pm CDT »
I've got a medium sized peltier, some silicon grease (hopefully dielectric), a large aluminum heatsink, and a Vantec Tornado 80mm fan.  Tomorrow I'll be getting my aluminum and insulator material tomorrow.  I'm planning on coating the back of the board around the CPU with silicone and using Great Stuff + silicone on the top of the board to prevent condensation.  All areas in contact with the great stuff will be coated with silicone or hot glue to allow for clean removal of the insulation if needed.  I'll start my project tomorrow and there should be some pics in this thread.

If you have any ideas or suggestions for my ancient peltier rig, voice them here before tomorrow!
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2004 08:09 am CDT »
What are you trying to do, part?
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2004 06:05 pm CDT »
A piece of Aluminium Foil tape (like on an air conditioner) between the heatsink and the chip, with thermal paste on both sides is supposed to help.
I can't see it doing much good unless the foil piece was a larger square than the heat sink. But just an idea.

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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2004 06:12 pm CDT »
Quote from: "Hersh"
A piece of Aluminium Foil tape (like on an air conditioner) between the heatsink and the chip, with thermal paste on both sides is supposed to help.
I can't see it doing much good unless the foil piece was a larger square than the heat sink. But just an idea.

Hersh


I have heard of people doing that as well.  And normally the aluminum foil is about 1/2 inch larger in all 4 directions than the chip.  It is suppose to expand the area to which heat is applied and therefore the fans can cool more surface area to give you the maximum cooling.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2004 09:26 am CDT »
I'm using a 1.25" thick 2x2 block of aluminum for the layer between my CPU and peltier.  Really, copper needs to be 3/8" to 1/2" to spread the effectiveness of the peltier to the top of the core.  Aluminum has to be about 30% thicker.  I had to clear some mobo components, so 1.25" worked out pretty good.

Last night I did most of the work of the installation.  The only serious problem was that I poured to large of a plug in that area in the middle of the CPU socket (I used hotglue--a very good electrical insulator).  It was about .75mm too tall and wouldn't allow the CPU to seat entirely correctly.  When removing it, I popped off a resistor and had to re-solder it with a small soldering pencil.  Hopefully it made good contact.

My 2nd goof was that when I was hotgluing the top of the motherboard with a thin coat around the CPU socket, I forgot to leave the CPU retention clip holders bare.  I was going to use thin sheetmetal to make a custom bracket to help apply pressure to my heatsink assembly.  Now, I'll either have to dig them out (not a fun process) or just do without and hope I can trust the foam to hold it down (Great Stuff).

I drilled holes in my aluminum block and sandwitched my peltier in between the heatsink and cold block with two screws.  I know it made good contact because I actually cracked off part of the peltier (small section of top transfer wafer--not the actual peltier).

Lastly, I used silicone to apply about 1/2" to the area around the CPU on the back of my motherboard.  It covers about 1" out from the CPU pins.  This should do a good job of stopping any condensation.  Since I'll have to wait a day for it to cure, I'll get back to the job tonight, when I can build a foam former for the spray foam and shoot it with Great Stuff.  I will also be attaching an 80mm fan to the hot side's heatsink.  Once that stuff sets up, I'll be firing up the mobo and hoping it works.  It may not run at all since I broke the resistor.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2004 09:39 am CDT »
Too technical for me. :shock:
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2004 04:15 pm CDT »
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2004 05:21 pm CDT »
Ohhhh so we talking about coolers/heaters, LMAO I didn't even know that part :P
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2004 06:19 pm CDT »
Quote from: "Particle"
Last night I did most of the work of the installation.  The only serious problem was that I poured to large of a plug in that area in the middle of the CPU socket (I used hotglue--a very good electrical insulator).  It was about .75mm too tall and wouldn't allow the CPU to seat entirely correctly.  When removing it, I popped off a resistor and had to re-solder it with a small soldering pencil.  Hopefully it made good contact.


Heh, too much work, I would have just returned it and said it came that way.
Sounds good though, hope it works. (And post pictures. :wink:)

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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2004 07:43 am CDT »
It is an acient board.  I just got back from out of town so I'll be doing the peltier this morning instead.  Pics soon.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2004 08:08 am CDT »
What the hell were you doing in Manhattan?
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2004 09:20 am CDT »
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2004 09:30 am CDT »
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What the hell were you doing in Manhattan?


Manhattan, KS--not NY.  This doesn't really belong in this thread.  I'll be back soon and hopefully with some pics.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2004 02:30 pm CDT »
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