The Feds destroying privacy

[Particle]

This is outrageous.  How are they going to show that these people are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?  There are so many reasons that have to be disproven.  A few examples I can think about are:

- What about web crawlers, indexers, etc?
- Let's be real--most of the time, people who make porn advertise their "actors" and "actresses" as being younger than they really are.  Only rarely is the reverse true.
- Proxies?
- Open wlans?

And let us not forget some of the bigger issues, which you folks have hit more upon already than the list above:

- Why are we once again going after the end users?  Say what you want to, but if they aren't paying for it there is no real way to say it is further harming the child.  They aren't helping to finance it.  Some of these people are just disturbed and perverted in their tastes.  That doesn't automatically make them child molesters...unless we want to start charging people for crimes they haven't even thought of committing yet.

- Isn't this kill-the-user mentality just a lazy way out of enforcing the law against child pornography?  The real sickos must be hard to catch if this is the best way they can think of to show the mentally retarded public that progress is happening.

- What about children (read:  anyone under 18) who are just looking for somebody their own age?  Can that even be called sick?  If so, why are we trying to demonize and control people's natural feelings during their development?  Isn't that somehow even more cruel?

I'm no fan of child pornography, but that doesn't mean I think we should shoot first and never bother asking for names.  If anything, we just seem to be taking the laziest possible road to visible results (if you can even call them that).

[kharandhil]

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

you are as naive as you are ignorant.

what makes europe so special?  do you have some kind of immunity?  have you been vaccinated against tyranny?

does Napoleon? Adolf Hitler? Mussolini? Francisco Franco, ring any bells?  

These "retarded Americans" (as you call them have) rescued europe from it's own stupidity on so many occasions only to suffer the uninformed criticisms and blind prejudices that you continue to foster under the misguided belief that you are somehow superior.

You're not ignorant, that would be a nice way of saying you're just plain dumb.
You rly have no clue about politics, about laws...about how everything is different here?
Suddenly a worthless old american guy tells me how things work here and I should be fine with it?
I'll explain my point.

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

WHy? Europe is not a country to start with and why should they obey to anything USA wants?
Belgium is a country in europe, and even though the European union is an attempt to form one big united union, it's still very far from being being united, as all different countries still have too many different laws and rules.
To make a transfer of a prisoner from another country, you need to work with politicians, more precisely diplomats. Even if 2 countries do have very good cooperation, it still doesn't mean that they will accept anything. That whole way of tracing , won't be accepted here...It will lead to conflict, and will make relations between the 2 countries very troublesome.

what makes europe so special?  do you have some kind of immunity?  have you been vaccinated against tyranny?

Does this seriously sound rly smart to you? I 'd expect this type of remark from a 14 year old.
Yet somehow I'm ignorant!
XD

does Napoleon? Adolf Hitler? Mussolini? Francisco Franco, ring any bells?  

Has nothing to do here. We were talking about pedo porn...and suddenly arf brings up hitler? LOL wtf!
Yet somehow I'm ignorant!
Besides, I doubt that you know that much about them anyways. All these guys are completely different from eachother, you prb rly have no idea waht I'm talking about...

This is the last one...I bothered replying...
Go ahead and keep up the spam, your behaviour is rly an example for all of us!
I won't reply to any more bullcrap from this bully!

[Arf]

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

you are as naive as you are ignorant.

what makes europe so special?  do you have some kind of immunity?  have you been vaccinated against tyranny?

does Napoleon? Adolf Hitler? Mussolini? Francisco Franco, ring any bells?  

These "retarded Americans" (as you call them have) rescued europe from it's own stupidity on so many occasions only to suffer the uninformed criticisms and blind prejudices that you continue to foster under the misguided belief that you are somehow superior.

You're not ignorant, that would be a nice way of saying you're just plain dumb.
You rly have no clue about politics, about laws...about how everything is different here?
Suddenly a worthless old american guy tells me how things work here and I should be fine with it?
I'll explain my point.

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

WHy? Europe is not a country to start with and why should they obey to anything USA wants?
Belgium is a country in europe, and even though the European union is an attempt to form one big united union, it's still very far from being being united, as all different countries still have too many different laws and rules.
To make a transfer of a prisoner from another country, you need to work with politicians, more precisely diplomats. Even if 2 countries do have very good cooperation, it still doesn't mean that they will accept anything. That whole way of tracing , won't be accepted here...It will lead to conflict, and will make relations between the 2 countries very troublesome.

what makes europe so special?  do you have some kind of immunity?  have you been vaccinated against tyranny?

Does this seriously sound rly smart to you? I 'd expect this type of remark from a 14 year old.
Yet somehow I'm ignorant!
XD

does Napoleon? Adolf Hitler? Mussolini? Francisco Franco, ring any bells?  

Has nothing to do here. We were talking about pedo porn...and suddenly arf brings up hitler? LOL wtf!
Yet somehow I'm ignorant!
Besides, I doubt that you know that much about them anyways. All these guys are completely different from eachother, you prb rly have no idea waht I'm talking about...

This is the last one...I bothered replying...
Go ahead and keep up the spam, your behaviour is rly an example for all of us!
I won't reply to any more bullcrap from this bully!

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

1) Hey Dickhead, you are the one that said EUROPE ...  you didn't name a country

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

2) Hey Dickhead, politics?  laws?  are you saying you didnt have those when Napoleon, and Hitler occupied your perfect little country?

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

3) Hey Dickhead, prisoner transfer? different lawas and different countries?  you didnt specify laws, politics or countries. just like always you open your mouth and uninformed, uneducated and misguided stupidity falls out in the form and guise of a spoken language.

Going into europe would be an impossible deal, especially with this kinda method...

4) Hey Dickhead, try to stay on topic.  i know it's hard for you to do with all your impressive responsibilities, duties, obligations, and your deathmatch bruce lee wanna be a feared killer training bullmalarkey, but at least try.

[kharandhil]

your wife must be proud of you, your kids, too.
All americans in fact.

Then people wonder why most europeans think all americans are retards XD

[Lidge Farkley]

Hmm.. neither of your flaming seems to be relevant to this topic.

[Arf]

Hmm.. neither of your flaming seems to be relevant to this topic.

 :tongue:  :curse:  :tongue:  :tongue:

[RedneckNoob]

your wife must be proud of you, your kids, too.
All americans in fact.

Then people wonder why most europeans think all americans are retards XD

You, yourself, have done nothing but prove yourself ignorant and moronic by claiming that all Americans are retards.  I put up with your bullmalarkey for long enough.

In 2005 thanks to American Lobbying in Sweden a raid was performed on The Pirate Bay.  That's right, THANKS TO AMERICANS, LEGAL ACTION WAS TAKEN ON A WEBSITE IN SWEDEN WHEN THE WEBSITE BROKE NONE OF SWEDEN'S LAWS.  Good job on your ignorance.

Hitler had a lot to do with this topic.  If you know your forking history you would know that Hitler did many such actions like this that took away individual liberties such as this.  He destroyed privacy.

[JayJay]

Europeans are dirty.  Especially Frenchies.  

[Lidge Farkley]

Hey, Farf yau JayJay!
I lives in the US and have only had one shower in the last two weeks, yesterday.
!!!!!

[JayJay]