Anyone who plays base

[LastWish]

Wasnt that what i was talking about? The players?  :roll:

Yeah, I played renegades for a while until I went back to base for good.

[UnderGod]

INC I'm not going to start with you, because we all know how you take things out of context, and we all know how you only read what you want to hear.

[Saleen]

LOL. It is the skill of the particuler player . Therefore it is a proven fact that how "good" a player is is based not upon whether or not they play base or a mod but upon how much they practiced to learn those skills and to what effect they can put them to use within any given situation.
MANY base players get smashed at mods until they take the time to learn it. Learning the mod essentially means gaining the new skills nessessary for it like being able to operate without the ski bug, learning to infiltrate a base while being unable to fly, learning to use your limited number of sniper shots in a rail gun wisely rather than rely on the unlimited ammo of a laser rifle ect ect.
As many of us have been saying throughout, ...
saying that base is "better" or that renegades is "better" is only true to the person actually speaking and the truth switches from one person to the next. It is no different than saying "first person shooters are better than real time strategy" or "gin rummy is better than blackjack" or chess is better than backgammin". They are all games and it is a matter ofr particuler skills and tastes of the particuler person playing them.

that isnt even what undergod is saying!

he isnt saying "joe plays base, therefore joe is a skilled player and owns all mods".  he is saying that a skilled player in base is bound to excel in any other mod.  not every base player will be good at every mod, but if someone is really good at base, you can bet that he will do great at other mods..

also he isnt saying that base is "better" than any mod..  he is saying that base requires more skill to do well in!  there are some really good base players, and if you are going to try and keep up with them, you have to play alot and get really good at it..  that is something that most other mods dont have, a commnunity of really really good players.  base is more about teamwork, and in my opinion is TOTALLY balanced.  other mods best players dont even come up to par with the best base players..  base just requires more skill to be one of the best.

[Quaduce]

base is more about teamwork, and in my opinion is TOTALLY balanced.  other mods best players dont even come up to par with the best base players..  base just requires more skill to be one of the best.

Exactly.

[Silvanoshei]

MANY base players get smashed at mods until they take the time to learn it.

You are wrong. This is not a hypothetical situation. I have actual case evidence to back me up. You have... what, a comparison of card games? You're trying to tell us that checkers requires just as much strategy as chess. And stop starting every post out with "LOL".

EVIL_INC, plain and simple: you are wrong.

[Quaduce]

^

I recall a few times being called on by some mod player i was pounding on a duel server to go on thier mod so they can "kick my ass". I ended up beating them down in the armor i spawned in w/ a disclauncher right off the start, after that they usualy drop off the server like a newbie or resort to sniping me..typical   ) We are saying base players are on average alot better than mod players, and mod players seem to have a limitation about how good they accualy can get, since thier best players are compareable at most to an average base player. Read things for how its said and get your head outta your arse.

[Silvanoshei]

A player of four days is not a base player. He is a newbie. A base player is someone who is aware of the existence of other mods and has played them, then chosen base over them. If a base player of three months plays against a Shifter player of three months, then the base player will win hands down.

And if a base player goes to a mod and gets owned, then he was getting owned back in base, as well. Anyone who does well in base owns every mod.

Furthermore, TribesRPG isn't a mod, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. TribesRPG is a Total Conversion.

[Saleen]

yeah i agree totally on that

no mod is better than any other mod, its just a matter of preference.  of course people are going to play the mod that they are better at, its a natural thing.  taking this into account, naturally the mod (or in this case, the lack of a mod [base]) that requires the skills used in all mods will have more all around skilled players.  i think everyone was arguing different but valid points, other than silv if he says some mods are better than others.

[UnderGod]

No one said one mod is better than any other.. Except for Quaduce (He's nub so it doesn't matter =) ).

It is a proven fact that anyone who is fairly decent in base, will out-perform a mod player of the same level and higher at their own mod. It isn't like just a handfull of people are able to do it..

I'm talking at least a couple hundred or more..

[UnderGod]

The best mod is whatever mod is best for you.

[Quaduce]

Couple hundred? I see it as a percentage. for every "best player at ___ mod" there are probbly 20-30 base players who would mop the floor with that guy, even on his own mod.

One of the best long term mod players iv seen around is {187}Lannister. He played havoc, but i regularly saw him playing on base. He wasnt all that great, he would hover, gren spam, use cg on duels and wouldnt go for a single MA shot...typical things among mod players it seems. But at least he played competativly, his clan dominated the TWL Havoc ladder...go figure they practiced on base  

[Silvanoshei]

I never said that base was better, EVIL_INC. Why can't you read? Why don't you pick out the specific statement or post where I said that base was better? I only said that base had the better players and that base requires the most skill.

[Saleen]

im sure he can read, he probably just couldnt remember who said it and thought it was you

[Pecker]

I'm not sure this topic needed 6 pages  :evil:

[UnderGod]

The whole purpose of meltdown was to have things you wouldn't ever see in any other mod.