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Twister997

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We could use some admins.....
« on: January 15, 2005 04:34 pm CST »
everytime the last admin in game at any particular time leaves...all hell breaks loose......people go on killing/stealing sprees.....and the server crashers come back.....the first part ain't so bad but when you put the 2 together its damn close to impossible to play....

maybe we could see about giving some of the regulars pk status or low lvl admin so they can do something while the real admins are away....
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2005 04:40 pm CST »
you describe the server crashes, i'll supply the patches.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2005 04:50 pm CST »
yeah a certian character has been logging off when I join.. but now I have the tools to take care of it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2005 05:03 pm CST »
wish i could describe it...all i see is different chars join...usually kkk.....then within a couple of min we all get server timed out....the server resets we all join again....sorry i cant be more helpful.....
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2005 05:08 pm CST »
well if you get this soon enough and wanna come check out the problem yourself their at it again right now
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2005 05:09 pm CST »
The usual crash method is join spamming.  Fortunately the server will have a configurable firewall soon though where I can just ban these people there.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2005 05:34 pm CST »
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The usual crash method is join spamming.

No, this is something different.  One person last night tried the join spamming and did nothing but raise our pings by about 50, it wasn't really a big deal and we had a good laugh.  The crashes he is describing do not show any players join or drop, nothing to give away it is about to happen.  I've seen 5horty come back after one of the crashes saying in #global how it's such a great benefit to the game to be a "hacker".  *grumbles about moron script kiddies*  It seems to me that he just downloaded some DOS attack and plugs in your IP.  That's the best I can figure.  Hope it helps.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2005 05:36 pm CST »
well it turned out it was duping this time still shorty doing it....o well ge took care of him for now.....unfortunately hes like herpes he only goes away for so long...
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2005 05:38 pm CST »
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well it turned out it was duping this time still shorty doing it....o well ge took care of him for now.....unfortunately hes like herpes he only goes away for so long...


Well said!  Also very true.

He has all the classic signs:
-Ugly
-Only goes away for a while
-Annoying when present
-Not a serious illness
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As a point of history:  Our last server clear was on September 27, 2004.  That is 4963 days ago (13.6 years) as of today.

If you're visiting after a long hiatus and have forgotten your password, try emailing me via the support form at http://www.pcrpg.org.

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2005 06:41 pm CST »
LOL, that's pretty funny.

P.s.  He IM'd me the other day asking me to help crash the server by duping coins or something (I don't even have tribes installed). He also mentioned that he had about 7 people helping him, but needed a few more?

That's all I got. Hope it helps.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2005 07:30 pm CST »
There is some evidence that shows that PEACH may actually be a 7th grader living in my town. I've yet to explore the lead further, but -Icer- knows the story.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2005 07:43 pm CST »
I'm going to say my piece then drop the topic...

Today, Battousai killed my friend who is RL0 and caused him to leave the server.  Leaving the server is a perfectly acceptable way to not deal with assholes.  But let's be honest...  Why did it take so long to clear Jonah?  Why do people like Battousai and IceCube and TheEnd get protection within the rules saying 3 PK per person per day?  Since when the fork do the assholes in society have more rights than someone like me who tries to help train and protect n00bs?  I'm not "allowed" to mimic kill Battousai even though he deserves it no matter how you look at the situation.  The n00bs don't know that PK and admins require screen shots, much less how to take them in most cases.  IceCube killed KissingFish the same time Battousai killed FireFox... were these fair?  According to the rules: yes, they were.  I'm not one to unsavory woman, but this is forking out of control.  I get my shoes taken from NFY all the time, but BoGs and WWs are much cheaper than LCK and lost time getting back to training.  There is a difference for sure in the level of asshole someone can be.  Why is it that I'm allowed to PK NFY for mugging me but not when someone forks with my friend?

I say we let thieves play their characters, but don't extend protection out to the people that PK just for the hell of it.

Quote from: "Section 1, Subsection H - PK Rules"
Killing people just starting out is ridiculous.
Lets be honest...  wouldn't this apply to RL 20+ killing an RL 0?  We all know there is an obvious skill gain in remorting, this rule is flawed when it its based on levels only.

Quote from: "Duty Outline - Administrators -  General Law"
-  Rule Refining
Oh malarkey... that looks to me like admins are allowed to punish as they see fit.  Damn all you PKers, does that mean that the 3 kill limit might not apply for you being an asshole?  I would sure hope so.

Seriously people, if you are on the server, a RL 0 gets killed by someone like Battousai or IceCube, but they are in the correct LVL range, does that make it right?  Maybe some thought should be taken from strictly following rules and more thought put into what is "fair."  And don't you go think for a single second that "fair" and "equal" are the same thing.  Half the people that are PK assholes are no-skill-cowards.  I'm willing to prove that any day of the week on TvT.  Yes Battousai and IceCube, you could say that I'm calling you out.  I think you are too chicken to come fight me because you know without you RL advantage that you suck giant elephant scrotum in fair fights.

It really is sad when cowards like Jonah, Battousai, TheEnd, IceCube, PEACH and 5horty find fun in being asshats just because the internet offers anonymity.

Particle I ask you as a friend, personal favor, for the well being of your server, and/or whatever you want to call it:  Please give your admins the right to rule as they see fit, not based on what the book says.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2005 07:57 pm CST »
Perhaps it's time to find a new game if this one is so flawed and out to get you.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2005 08:14 pm CST »
well stricto is pissed right now so he is coming off a lil hard and in a bad way but nonetheless he has a point....an rl20+ does have an advantage over an rl0....and their should be some consideration for that.....also if someone continues to kill people over the 3 kill limit...just because the person being killed either doesnt know how to/forgets to/just doesnt bother to take screenshots should not give the killer fee reign to continue to kill

i know when i first get killed by someone i usually forget to take a ss so most people can get 4 kills outta me instead of 3.....also.....i have yet to see someone who continuosly goes over the limit of 3 get more than a bad boy you shouldn't do that response

o and another trick people have been pulling lately is targeting and killing.....and then saying that the other people targeted them so that theoretically it was ok for them to pk as much as they wanted then they still get their 3 for targeting.....

now even if your used to taking an ss when you die...you might not think to take one when you are targetted or when the targetting runs out.....and with out ss of that there is no way to prove you didnt target them after the fact

theres got to be some way for them to be held accountable after X number of accusations.....even if there arent screen shots....

just some more thoughts on the subject...
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2005 08:32 pm CST »
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Perhaps it's time to find a new game if this one is so flawed and out to get you.
Or I have a better idea douche bag:  How about you take your own advice and leave these forums?  Find some new ones to flame in.

And, if your tiny brain was capable of reading, I stated numerous times that I don't usually complain, and that the PKs I was refering to were done to people other than myself.


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i have yet to see someone who continuosly goes over the limit of 3 get more than a bad boy you shouldn't do that response
You are absolutely correct, it is exactly that sort of thing that I'm sick of seeing happen to other people.
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