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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2005 04:09 am CST »
I use Norton AntiVirus..  8) Seems to work fine for me, I don't think it sucks.
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2005 08:12 am CST »
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While you're messing with windows services, consider disabling some of the other ones that turn your computer into a big goatse. Like Netmeeting Remote Desktop Sharing, and "Remote registry service." Who the hell wants their registry remotely manipulated?
Good point, I'll go back and look at some of those.  Any other services I won't be needing that won't screw up windows too bad?

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Zone Alarm is retarded... or at least the free version of it is. I remember when I was trying to set up a tribes server with it, and it asked me if I wanted to allow Tribes, so I chose yes. But it only allowed the first port that was opened (telnet) and not the second port (the actual tribes server), and there was no option to change it. haha.
Yeah, I happened to "find" a copy of ZA Pro, the exact same problems you are describing.  Makes me think it's just their problems, nothing they were lazy about in a particular version.
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2005 09:30 am CST »
It depends on your definition of 'screw up windows', I guess... I got hacked a few years back, and my computer was essentially turned into a big warez ftp server. I guess the hackers liked my phat connection. =\ Anyway, the experience forced me to learn enough about windows 2k/windows xp to make sure it never happened again. i'm so paranoid that even my computer has a tinfoil hat; almost every single service that isn't completely essential is off. i can't access the windows network, share folders, view information about my connection or even print, but the end result is that my windows installation opens absolutely no ports... all that DCOM crap and Netbios, it's all off.

lol... your paranoia levels may vary, so decide for yourself. information about all the Win XP services, and what won't fry your comp if you disable it:

http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2005 02:04 pm CST »
gladio just hacked my sig  :cry:
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2005 02:05 pm CST »
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gladio just hacked my sig  :shock: Wait, wtf did I do?!  *takes 2 cautious steps backwards*

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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2005 07:17 pm CST »
Trojans do work on XP; many, at that.

I figured FireFox was allready in use by Aphex (I seem to remember her mentioning its use in the past some place.)

If you have SP2 then the windows firewall is just fine.  Unless you download and open/install a contaminated file there should be no problems at all.  However... if you do happen to download/install a contaminated file, the hardware firewall (like a linksys firewall router, for example) will block the trojan (in most cases) from allowing remote access to your network.  As long as you change your hardware firewall password, there should be no problem.

Aphex:
Please make sure you follow the directions in order.  Do not proceed unless what you have done in a previous step has worked.

What popus do you have?

Have you run hijackthis! yet and posted your log to here for me to analyze?

Did you install and run the first set of programs in the list I posted?
What are the results?

Did you try doing a Housecall virus scan in safe mode?  How about AVG virus scan in safe mode?  Ad-Aware or Spybot S&D in safe mode?  MSAS?

Please answer these questions.


You may have a hardware failure on the way, but I doubt that.  Still, backing up your imprtant stuff to an other hard drive or to DVD's is not a bad approach.


Aphex:
Please make sure you follow the directions in order.  Do not proceed unless what you have done in a previous step has worked.


More things you want to do:
Make sure you have 10% free drive space on your drive and run disk defragmenter.  You should allways (regretably) leave about 10% of your drive space open for the best performance (according to microsoft.)  Defrag will require you to have at least 10% of your drive as free space to defragment properly.

Also, do the following:
Go to:
"Control Panel"

Open:
"System"

Click the tab:
"Remote"

Disable by unchecking the boxes:
"Remote Assistance" (and) "Remote Desktop"


Go to:
"Control Panel"

Open:
"System"

Click on tab:
"Advanced"

Click on button:
"Settings" (under headding "performance")

Click on tab:
"Advanced"

Click on button:
"Change"

Click on your "C" drive:

Click on the option bullet "Custom size":

Enter initial size of:
1024

Enter maximum size of:
2048 (or) 3036

This will allow your computer to use your hard drive for more virtual memory, which will give you a performance increase.  YOU MUST have at least your maximum ammount of hard drive space free equal to your Page File space FREE in order to use it in this way.  I reccomend you have at least 3.5-4GB of disk space free anyway, though it is not entirely nescessary... 10% usually does just fine, as microsoft said.



When did this popup problem appear?
Did you install any program you no longer have access to (to install again) since the problems started appearing?

If you have not installed a recent program since you achieved this popup/virus problem, then you can do a System Restore.  System Restore will restore your system back to a date before the virus/popups started happening and leave your current data files intact.  I reccomned backing up anything you care about first, however (just in case!)

You may be able to go to; Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore.  This will allow you to pick a date from before the popup problem happened and restore to that point in time.  You will not lose any docuemnt data.  Only programs installed since that restore point will be lost (this includes the bad virus/trohjan/popup.)  After a successful restore and reboot, go back to system restore and create a new system restore point (this will be your newest and cleanest.)

After you have done the above or completely fixed your sytem in some other fassion... run "Disk Cleanup" from the System Tools menu in the Start menu (same area as system restore) and follow these steps:
Check the top 4 boxes:
Temp download files, Temp Internet Files, recycle bin, temporary files.  Checking any of the other boxes can result in system update problems as well as startup issues.  Stupid, I know, but it's the way it is... trust me we've busted a few computers by clicking "compress old files."
Next click the "more options" tab:
Click on "clean up" under the "System Restore" area.  Click yes.
(this will remove all of your old restore points.)

Press OK at the bottom of the box and let it "disk clean up" itself.

After it finishes, do the following:

Go to:
"Control Panel"
Open:
"System"
Click tab:
"System Restore:
Change the numbers on each drive in there to be between 700MB and 1500MB by clicking on the respective Hard Drive and clicking the button "settings" then moving the slider to 1500MB (I mentioned 700MB, becauseit is the ammount of space I use on my primary drive, which only has small programs like system files and tools on it.)

This sets a side all of the space you really need to set aside for system restore in almost all cases.  Otherwise... windows will attempt to use a rediculous ammount of your free space for the system resotre file.  That's crap.

Now you should have a nice and fully fuctional machine problem free.

If not... post back again!  Chances are you have a failing hard drive, though this is a small chance. (that is... if all of the other problems have been fixed at this point.)
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2005 09:16 pm CST »
oh my god. tech overload.

i cannot do all that. i am stupid. the end.

the pop ups are from IE. just stupid ads. I dont use IE so I dont know why they would come up. And they only come up when I turn on my computer.

I installed and am using the avg or whtever anitvirus. and im using sygate firewall. I did run housecall but not in safe mode. And Ad aware and spybot and symantec. But not in safe mode.

The problems seem to have gone away. But maybe if I have time, which i dont, i'll do everything you said. But as of right now I work too much to actually sit down and read step by step what you just said. Plus I dont really understand a lot of it. Im not that techish. So it would be hard for me. Confusing.

And I have tons of free space on my hardrives.  11 gigs on my system drive. and 50 on my other drive. I have 100 gigs total. I defrag often but not all the time.

omg even typing all this is making my brain hurt. I hate tech....ugh. being a nerd is hard work

here is my log file.

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Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 7:24:42 PM, on 03/24/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Sygate\SPF\smc.exe
D:\PROGRA~1\Aston1.9\Aston\aston.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\SYMANT~1\SYMANT~1\vptray.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_06\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Winamp\winampa.exe
C:\Program Files\Browser MOUSE\mouse32a.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Distillr\AcroTray.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\SYMANT~1\SYMANT~1\DefWatch.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Twain_32\CA561A\SnapDetect.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\SYMANT~1\SYMANT~1\Rtvscan.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Winamp\winamp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Kat\Desktop\hijackthis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing
O1 - Hosts: 12.129.205.209 search.netscape.com12.129.205.209 sitefinder.verisign.com
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDHelper.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [vptray] C:\PROGRA~1\SYMANT~1\SYMANT~1\vptray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_06\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinampAgent] C:\Program Files\Winamp\winampa.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [FLMOFFICE4DMOUSE] C:\Program Files\Browser MOUSE\mouse32a.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SmcService] C:\PROGRA~1\Sygate\SPF\smc.exe -startgui
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Yahoo! Pager] C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\ypager.exe -quiet
O4 - Startup: Run VNC Server.lnk = C:\Program Files\RealVNC\WinVNC\winvnc.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Acrobat Assistant.lnk = C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Distillr\AcroTray.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
O4 - Global Startup: SnapDetect.lnk = ?
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English - res://C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_06\bin\npjpi142_06.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_06\bin\npjpi142_06.dll
O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - D:\Program files\AIM\aim.exe
O9 - Extra button: Yahoo! Messenger - {E5D12C4E-7B4F-11D3-B5C9-0050045C3C96} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\MESSEN~1\YPager.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger - {E5D12C4E-7B4F-11D3-B5C9-0050045C3C96} - C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\MESSEN~1\YPager.exe
O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
O16 - DPF: v3cab - http://searchmiracle.com/cab/v3cab.cab
O16 - DPF: {04E214E5-63AF-4236-83C6-A7ADCBF9BD02} (HouseCall Control) - http://housecall-beta.trendmicro.com/housecall/xscan60.cab
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/v5consumer/V5Controls/en/x86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1111602093233
O16 - DPF: {B9191F79-5613-4C76-AA2A-398534BB8999} - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/suite/autocomplete.cab
O16 - DPF: {FC67BB52-AAB6-4282-9D51-2DAFFE73AFD0} - http://download.spyspotter.com/spyspotter/SpSp29952.22opt/SpySpotterInstall.cab
O20 - Winlogon Notify: NavLogon - C:\WINDOWS\System32\NavLogon.dll
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: DefWatch - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\SYMANT~1\SYMANT~1\DefWatch.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec AntiVirus Client (Norton AntiVirus Server) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\SYMANT~1\SYMANT~1\Rtvscan.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: O&O Defrag (OODefrag) - O&O Software GmbH - C:\WINDOWS\System32\oodag.exe
O23 - Service: Sygate Personal Firewall (SmcService) - Sygate Technologies, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Sygate\SPF\smc.exe



and since my problems seem to only be on my system drive couldnt i just move all my important stuff from C over to D in case the sytem drive dies? Would that be safe? I dont really feel like formatting my sytem drive and reinstalling windows. Plus I "lost" my cd.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2005 01:28 am CST »
heh... sorry for the tech overload. :-)

If I lived close to you I would just stop by and fix your stuff.

You can put all of your data on the second drive.  I reccomend that.

You should try to keep about 3.5 GB free on each of your drives, just to make sure windows has enough space to manage all of the stuff I talked about in the last post.


the following looks extensive, but it will really only take about 5 minutes + time to read this info.


I would remove the following Hijackthis! log entries.  Be very careful to remove only the following entries:
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R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =

R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =

R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing

O16 - DPF: {FC67BB52-AAB6-4282-9D51-2DAFFE73AFD0} -
http://download.spyspotter.com/spyspotter/SpSp29952.22opt/SpySpotterInstall.cab

O16 - DPF: v3cab - http://searchmiracle.com/cab/v3cab.cab

Optional removals (may enhance performance in general due to not loading the following in to memory):
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O4 - Global Startup: Acrobat Assistant.lnk = C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Distillr\AcroTray.exe

O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe

Important:
Do you or does some one you know have permission to run your computer froma remote location?  Do you log in from a remote location to manipulate your computer?  Does some one you know and trust log in to your computer remotely to change things? (say.... boyfriend?)

If You do not and nobody you know has permission to (you might want to ask first) then you should remove the following entry:
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O4 - Startup: Run VNC Server.lnk = C:\Program Files\RealVNC\WinVNC\winvnc.exe

winvnc.exe is a legitimate remote computer management program, but a friend or a trojan could have installed it to use it against you, and it should never auto-run unless you are using it as a remote admin tool and you set it up yourself.


I can't see anything else at the moment that makes me cautionary.


Anyway... those hijackthis! logs entries removed should help free up some system resources and potentially solve some problems.

If you don't see any more popups or strange slowdowns... then I would not worry much.  Make certain you have SP2 installed.  If you are a college student, you can buy the FULL version of Windows XP Pro with SP2 and December 2004 updates for only $79.  A value that finally caused me to upgrade from win98se this january.

Additional nerdy commentary:
I don't know what SnapLink.exe is, but it's referencing a twain_32 folder which is what windows uses to connect digital cameras and scanners, so I would leave it for now (despite it not pointing to any specific location.)
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2005 08:54 am CST »
snap detect is for my webcam. i never have used it. it just installed instelf.

and yeah i have service pack 2.

and yeah winvnc was installed by lucid when we were together.  so he could access my computer for whatever reason..i uninstalled it last night.

thanks i'll do all that when i get home tonight. :)

yeah too bad you live really far from me.  you sound like you know what you're doing.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2005 12:44 pm CST »
Can anyone recommend a way to remove "Perfect Keylogger"? It's getting annoying.

Spybot detects a reg key, but fails to completely remove it.
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2005 01:42 pm CST »
oh gosh, not adware/spyware/trojans. Like Aphex said, just google it if you haven't already, there are some forums out there that have solutions to some specific problems, and "perfect keybinder" sounds popular.

Just found it on google. At this site

http://www.spywareguide.com/product_show.php?id=588

it says there are removal tools X-Cleaner and RegBlock. I don't know if they work, but it's a start. Usually I have to go into safe mode to get rid of things that are in the registry and come back after being removed. And if that doesn't work, I have to use regedit. Otherwise, just try SpyBot in safe mode. or use those two things and see if they work. good luck with that.
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2005 02:13 pm CST »
First off it's "Perfect Keylogger", secondly I already googled, and found that exact website, both those spyware removers are lame, and you need to pay for them, I smell rip off. I tried running spybot in safemode. Didn't work.

The funny thing is, it actually popped up telling me I only have 3 days to register it. WTF type of keylogger/trojan is that? I don't know if it's a joke.

Anyways, I used highjackthis (I've had it for quite some time, awesome program.) I got rid of everything I didn't recognize. (Dangerous I suppose.)

It no longer pops up, but I fear it's still installed, that or some dude is having fun with me. I often run netstat when I start my connection, trojans/keyloggers tend to leave a connection open, I couldn't see one.

I don't even know what freaking port it uses. >_< It's always the "legit" programs that are the worse to remove.


I don't know what to think, and thats far worse than anything. UGH
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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2005 05:18 pm CST »
*cough*firewall*cough*
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2005 05:52 pm CST »
certain trojans can get through firewalls easily...
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2005 10:52 pm CST »
I must really be out of it, I somehow said keybinder. Do you have any idea where the keylogger program is? If you can find some of the files, some websites have a weird solution of changing the name from say msmsgs.exe to msmsgs.exe.old. But usually it's not possible to find the files. And even if you found some things in the registry about it, taking them out does nothing as they come right back. Hijackthis usually finds those registry entries, even in safe mode it might not get them out completely :(

I know this is a stupid question but would stopping the program from starting up when windows starts up stop the problem almost?

What's one of those tech forums that usually has answers to adware/spyware/trojans? I can't remember the names of them. This is probably a problem for many people... I wonder why it's so hard to find forums with the solution. Usually they contain instructions on how to fully remove these programs. If you can find a forum that answers tech help questions about these things, then post your keylogger problem there. There are probably other people in the same situation who want perfect keylogger completely off of their computer. Keep us all updated on this, we're all interested in what happens.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969 06:00 pm CST by Hidama »
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