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Kyrie

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2006 04:54 pm CDT »
Demon zone is for gods maxing out, it's not a viable leveling place even at level 80 (the level req) because bash before the high 90s just takes too long to recharge.

While Ghettozone was meant for RL0s who couldn't go to Ubers, the bots there are perfect for gods to level on. I get max exp from level 1 to 101. They are easy to kill and have a fast respawn. The only thing that would make it more perfect is if a few spawned instead of just one.

The two highest gods don't over-train there. Once we hit 101 we either leave or drop, even if we're afk.

funger's last comment just suggested to me that if I'm leveling, and he wants to use the zone, I should leave because he's a lower RL.

I'm RL820. People are going to complain no matter where I level.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2006 05:22 pm CDT »
I did level without GZ with gods and high RLs sitting there AFK and I made it to god...
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2006 05:56 pm CDT »
Quote from: "HUBBA"
That is not his point. His point is that people are afk training for hours on in. I can understand his frustrations in that he can not level in Ghettozone because there are High Remort Levels (gods) has more endurance and can handle the blow of the bots to where a low remort level cannot.

It was to my understanding that Ghettozone was originally set up so people would not have to set in Minotuars lair and level up in there first remort.

Demon Zone was set up for the gods.


thank u hubba at rl 0 my char at lvl 98 with platemail had just over 600 hp maxxed out, i cant take the dmg from more than 2
hits, which im guaranteed to get from chasing the bots.
im not saying not to lvl there, just dont afk lvl there, so everyone can use ghettozone
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2006 06:05 pm CDT »
How does a me being afk or not make any difference at all? I stand in the same place doing the same thing whether I have Tribes minimized or not.

We stand at the back of the room next to the rock. The bots spawn near there and rarely get stuck out of our damage radius. If you stand on someone's head, you won't take any damage aside from mage casts. If you stand behind someone (just like in Den with ghettobot) you will also not take any damage.
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2006 06:14 pm CDT »
well if your not afk u could help by healing, or u could help by not taking all of the exp. i cant hit for even a quarter of the dmg that u do, like i said, im not asking u to stop lvling there just dont afk lvl.
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2006 06:35 pm CDT »
this is an excerpt from the rules page on the pcrpg site, im not saying that theese rules apply, in fact they DO NOT apply to
this situation, they just seem to get really close.


Zone Hoarding and Zone Blocking.  Players will not hoard a zone.  The use of tents, other spawnable objects, players, items, or any object that is possibly created, displayed, or rendered whether it is visible or not within the Tribes engine by players will not be tolerated.  Administrators can do so and have permission should they need to block an area off for maintenance, etc.

Also, a player should not take an entire zone or zone subset for themselves.  Nobody owns the zone except for the NPCs that occupy it.  The use of a particular race to train skills such as using goblins or orcs for the sole purpose of training endurance and dodging when other players need to use them for real purposes such as killing to gain experience is not acceptable.  Players are allowed to train particular skills from using bots, but not when people need to use the bots to level themselves up.  To kill the zones is not considered "particular skill training" even though it does raise skills because the bots are up for grabs by all players.
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2006 06:40 pm CDT »
Unfortunately, RL isnt taken into account in those rules, as they only pertain to your current lvl. But if RL was taken into account...
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2006 06:49 pm CDT »
yes then possibly there would be an infraction, but that is not the point. it should not have to even be a rule, its just common courtisey(please forgive the spelling if its wrong).
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2006 06:58 pm CDT »
That isn't really close at all. Zone hoarding applies when a player is killing bots with the intent of disrupting another player's ability to level. A god killing bots for experience (I get 4000 unpartied experience in ghettozone up to level 101 and beyond) is not considered zone hoarding.

I can't really help the fact that my stats increase and I out damage you (which I could probably do even with a rusty knife). The mod doesn't provide an outlet for 'super remorts.' Corona has tried to alleviate this with the addition of zones such as Ghettozone and Demon zone, but Ghettozone turned out to be a perfect zone for gods and demon zone is a good place for maxed out gods to try to collect Keldrinite.

I've made many suggestions (Rose Zone plz???) to Corona, all of which were the addition of a secondary Ghettozone for gods and locking the original Ghettozone via a teleport (similar to Demon zone, Minos, Ubers) that does not allow anyone over a certain level through.

You're not the first person to complain about this, I've seen it as a problem and complained about it as well, even as the one being complained against.
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2006 07:01 pm CDT »
Ghettozone was originally designed as a place for RL0 players to go after the exp started getting bad in minotaur's lair. However, realistically, it is serving another purpose. It seems to have been adopted by several God players who are now no longer occupying/hoarding Uber zone, Crypt, and other zones as much, which is also a good thing. It benefits most everyone, not just RL0's.

Demon zone was a test zone created because high-remort people were saying that all the other bots were too easy. It is not a practical place to level (for anyone) and it is seldom used.
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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2006 07:07 pm CDT »
The only people who don't benefit at all are the RL0s who still have to do the Mino Marathon because they can't level in GZ. Actually, I haven't tried comparing GZ at level 90 with a god there and Minos at level 90...maybe GZ is still a better option than Minos..
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2006 07:15 pm CDT »
rose just make a new char and duel funger
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2006 08:52 pm CDT »
Quote from: "Corona"
Ghettozone was originally designed as a place for RL0 players to go after the exp started getting bad in minotaur's lair. However, realistically, it is serving another purpose. It seems to have been adopted by several God players who are now no longer occupying/hoarding Uber zone, Crypt, and other zones as much, which is also a good thing. It benefits most everyone, not just RL0's.

Demon zone was a test zone created because high-remort people were saying that all the other bots were too easy. It is not a practical place to level (for anyone) and it is seldom used.


So why not take Demon Zone out and make a God zone? If Demon Zone is not being used why not replace it with a zone that the gods can use, or make it practical. What makes Demon Zone not practical?


Funger has a valid complaint. He is not flaming anyone. He is expressing his concerns. There has been other people also that have emailed me about this situation. I have been there and so have you guys. Instead of flaming and make a big deal out of it. Lets come up with a way of fixing the problem.
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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2006 09:36 pm CDT »
part should let sneeky work on the server to hard code stuff in and fix problems. not dissing you part.
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2006 10:07 pm CDT »
HUBBA, if both you and Particle agree, I can create another zone similar to Ghettozone (to replace Demonzone).

Or just make demonzone's bots as powerful as ghettozone's bots, lol.
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