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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2003 11:56 pm CST »
Quote from: "bahhumbug"
and we can burn the towel heads to fuel our new human powered cars 0.o


And the ignorance fueled cars will be powered by the perverse thoughts of people like you!
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2003 12:03 am CST »
Im gonna build a go-kart powered by my own self-satisfaction.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2003 09:23 am CST »
Cars not powerd by gas will not be out for years. Why? because as long as the fuel companys are major players in the car industry they will not allow it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2003 04:36 pm CST »
In the eighties, somebody (don't know who) made a fully-functional car powered completely by electricity. When the fuel companies found out, they bought the copyright and the prototype, then destroyed it.

The reason why we just don't switch to electricity or whatnot isn't really cost or difficulty, it's efficiency. Electrcity is terribly in efficient, because you only get as much energy out as you put in. With fossil fuels you get more energy than what you put in. It's difficult to explain to people who don't have at least a rudimentary knowledge of psychics, but with electric powered cars, you have to charge them up with just as much as you expect to get out, which is expensive.

Hydrogen (water) powered cars are now being researched, but I know very little about them...
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2003 06:14 pm CST »
There's a type of fuel that is completely compatible with current gas-powered engines that is cheaper and not oil-based.  It is made from a renewable resource and doesn't pollute like gasoline (petrol for all of you english folks) but once again the oil companies prevented it from becoming public knowledge.  In WW2, the allies kept destroying fuel depots and the nazis needed fuel and also developed a similar alternative to gas, but that too is now from an unknown formula.  America is just a big pot of dirty corporate executives wanting to be even richer no matter what the cost in lives or the furtherment of mankind.  I will say what I have before, "I hate this planet."
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2003 06:48 pm CST »
Silv, you are wrong. Electric powered cars are hugely efficient. I owned one for a year. Do a little charge over night, and drive it to work in the morning. As long as you don't like 40+ miles from work, you will make it there and back just fine. They also have a helluva lit more power then gas engines. They out torque any gas engine so far.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2003 08:36 pm CST »
Those new hybrids dont even need charging.  When you stop, the gas motor generates electricity for the car.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2003 08:55 pm CST »
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They out torque any gas engine so far.


The day they overpower my v12 twin turbo is the day I destroy my current human form.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2003 08:57 pm CST »
My point is, that the power required to charge the car's "battery" doesn't come from infinity. Electricity can only transfer power; it can not amplify it. You charge up the battery, and the power is stored and used to run the car. The reason why fossil fuel powered cars are more cost-efficient is that you get more energy out than you put in. A tiny spark from the spark plug sets off an explosion (a small one, but there are many). There is no dispute in environmental friendliness or of replenishable resources, but fuel-powered motors are the most cost/energy efficient. And Darwin, about the gas motor charging the electric one... That's just plain silly. First, it doesn't eliminate the need for a fossil fuel engine, like we are questing after, and second, it's like filling up your water glass by filling another glass with water, then pouring it into your original. We can just use the one that has the water in it. And, following my analogy, water will always be left over in the glass that you poured from, so it's even less efficient.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2003 09:01 pm CST »
Cars would be way too expensive running off electricity.
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2003 09:01 pm CST »
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Cars would be way too expensive running off electricity.


Exactly.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2003 09:28 pm CST »
Its much more complex than that, silvanoshei.  But, in the long run, you save money on gas, and your car has less harmful emissions.  And that's what we are really striving for.  You dont want every city to have a haze of fog over the building roofs every morning 20 years from now.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2003 09:47 pm CST »
I'm not arguing that fossil fuels should stay. I'm explaining why the change is so long coming, even though we have the abilites to do so. Also, what money you save on gas is charged by taxes, even more so, with the extra onslaught of power-sucking by all of the cars.
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2003 09:50 pm CST »
I don't like the idea.. I'm sorry but power failure is known to happen mroe often than engine failure..
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2003 09:55 pm CST »
UG you tell me the torque of that v12, and I can bet I can find a more powerful electric engine.

It cost about 50 cents to charge up the car at your home.
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