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Darwin

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« Reply #15 on: March 3, 2003 11:11 pm CST »
I freakin swear man.  I reformatted my pc a week and a half ago, and its running like a turd again.  I think I'm gonna have to get me an external hard drive to back up all my important files and format once a week.
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« Reply #16 on: March 3, 2003 11:15 pm CST »
i used to do that with an internal one...
then i said fork it


now the hard drive stopped working (the primary) in my good comp
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ima change this since....
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« Reply #17 on: March 4, 2003 06:32 pm CST »
I ended up buying a GF4 Ti4600 AGP 8X (best damn card on the market)

I actually bought the 4200, but there was a 4600 inside (it was unopened)

I said SWEET!!!

Anyway..

NWN is a badass game.. You guys probably don't know the whole point of NWN if you are talking about it like that.. It has nothing to do with single player, and Choas.. You have no clue what you are talking about..


NWN is AD&D (2nd phase) For the PC.. You can be a GM and create your own world where your HD size is the limit..

By doing this you can have friends make a party and play... It is a great game..
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« Reply #18 on: March 4, 2003 06:51 pm CST »
UG you're such an idiot.  The Radeon 9700 Pro is the best card on the market with far more features.  That card that you got is probably a different reversion and they were wanting to get rid of the old and outdated boards.  So I wouldn't be surprised to hear that you have to take it back because it "went bad".
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Gotta love SBC with their 6Mbps tier for 45$
(Yes, on their site it only shows 3Mbps, but it is actually 6Mbps, I would know :)).

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« Reply #19 on: March 4, 2003 09:39 pm CST »
If you read what I said, I said I didn't have to take it back.. And no..

Your card will die much faster than mine, and that is a guarantee..
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« Reply #20 on: March 4, 2003 11:59 pm CST »
If you go with ATI you are saying yes to poor driver support.  Nvidia on the other hand not only makes more revisions to their drivers, they also don't make poor revisions like every ATI card I've used.
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« Reply #21 on: March 5, 2003 03:24 am CST »
Nvidiots.
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Gotta love SBC with their 6Mbps tier for 45$
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« Reply #22 on: March 5, 2003 04:30 am CST »
You can keep throwing funny words like that out all day, and it won't change the fact that althouh the raedon 9700 pro does have the higher benchmarks in most tests, the drivers for ATI have always been completely unstable with some games and down right dirty when it comes to playing nice with other devices.

Their all in wonder is nice, if you don't have any high graphics demands.
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« Reply #23 on: March 5, 2003 07:11 am CST »
Thank you..
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« Reply #24 on: March 5, 2003 12:44 pm CST »
In conjunction with my last post...

Well, looks like you have to play your games in 1024x768 with no Anti-Aliasing and Anistropic Filtering because it will bog it down so much it would be like runing your old video card.  On the other hand, you have a card whose drivers are so optimized that AA barely shaves bandwidth off it.  Reminds me of the 3dfx war in the past, but guess what, not only is ATi's card clearly faster without AA, but even with it turned to the max and compared to 2XAA, it's still faster.  I find that odd since you would think that Nvidia would optimize their drivers better for AA since they bought 3dfx.

Just because ATi has had a bad past with drivers doesn't mean they haven't improved.  That is just being stubborn.  The next video card you will likey get is Nvidia, and I say that because that is all you look for, nothing else.  And if you know anything, the Catalyst 3.1 drivers are the most stable and highest performing drivers for ATi cards.  To tell you the truth, this was my very first ATi card, and I was very pleased.  In doing so, I bought an All-in-Wonder 8500 for my other computer.  I used to have a Geforce 3 Ti500, and when I couldn't play BF1942 because it would run like crap, I truely upgraded, not bought a card that had higher clock speeds and one or two more "advances" on it.

And I used to be an Nvidiot like you guys, back when the Geforce 2 GTS was up against the Voodoo 4 and 5 generation.  I defended Nvidia, of course, like an nvidiot, but I failed to realize that 3dfx did have a decent card.  You guys, just see ATi as nothing, and totally based upon a few websites that gave the first Radeons a bad name.

Do this: find how ever many reviews there are for the Radeon 9700 Pro compared to the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 (or whatever you want), and you will see that 99.9% of them chose the 9700 Pro because of performance.  You will also see that the 9700 Pro still runs better with Anti-Aliasing and Anistropic Filtering at max, with a less percentage lost.  That clearly points to the drivers for that one.

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the drivers for ATI have always been completely unstable with some games and down right dirty when it comes to playing nice with other devices.

Based on? You could say that about anything, most importantly is what motherboard did you test this with?

To finish this off, I've never had a game that CAN NOT run or CRASHES on my Radeon 9700 Pro.  However, I do enjoy the fastest video card that has ever been released.
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Gotta love SBC with their 6Mbps tier for 45$
(Yes, on their site it only shows 3Mbps, but it is actually 6Mbps, I would know :)).

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« Reply #25 on: March 5, 2003 01:00 pm CST »
BF1942 ran like crap for you with a ti500?  If this is true, this must have been your own fault.  I own a ti500, and BF1942 runs fine for me.  The only thing that annoys me about that game is the horrible netcode that EA released with that game.
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« Reply #26 on: March 5, 2003 01:09 pm CST »
You have to get used to the netcode.  As far as performance, yes, I was sick of the glitching and bogging down.  Get in a tank fight, it bogs down, even on a good system (XP 2200 512 DDR).  Don't you find it funny that all I upgraded was the video card and amazingly it runs smooth the whole time?  I think the reason why you can't tell is that you're used to consoles, and the way they bog down like that.

Same thing with the Serious Sam products.
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Gotta love SBC with their 6Mbps tier for 45$
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« Reply #27 on: March 5, 2003 01:32 pm CST »
Havent played my Xbox for 3 weeks.  I dont really notice any bogging down.  Is there a console command to show fps?

Also, explain this to me Jason http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/34 ... 1046884018
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« Reply #28 on: March 5, 2003 02:22 pm CST »
A fluke.
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Gotta love SBC with their 6Mbps tier for 45$
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« Reply #29 on: March 5, 2003 03:12 pm CST »
I have no girlfriend i whack to porno i have no life either lets argue about video cards YEA! MINES THE BEST YOUR SUCKS! get a life....
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