i say track down the users that made those accounts and ask em why they make them if they never was going to use them but that's just my idea. somebody should do it though they might get so scared they wet themselves. speaking of accounts how come my icq says i'm logged off, i'm never logged off icq it's on right now. i never logged off the net anyway but i am using trillian and that may be the problem. any of you with trillian ever experience the same problem or it always does this?