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« Reply #435 on: June 4, 2003 12:52 am CDT »
I want to stack case fans inside my case and make a wind tunnel.
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« Reply #436 on: June 4, 2003 01:35 am CDT »
lol wind tunnel is fun

stick the cars inside em and peel off the paint
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« Reply #437 on: June 4, 2003 10:59 am CDT »
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rofl Particle o_o

What kind of cooling do you have?  And your refresh rate speech made perfect sense to me.. I understand it now :)  Thanks!


SLK800A with a 50cfm/40dba Sunon 80mm fan

I'm considering an air-cooled 172w Peltier though.
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« Reply #438 on: June 4, 2003 01:32 pm CDT »
172w Peltier may be a bit overkill.

Think of it this way:
If you do get such extreme overclocking tools, you would have to modify other things like your motherboard to get higher voltage.  And the never-ending cycle continues.  Swiftech has a good Peltier box set.
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« Reply #439 on: June 4, 2003 01:39 pm CDT »
I don't need a higher vcore and I have no real problem preparing for condensation.  A 172w peltier isn't quite as big as I'd like in all actuality.

A 172w will probably make my CPU run -10C to -30C.  Colder is better until you get to about -200F, at which point a lot of silicon-based electronic circuits no longer function.
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« Reply #440 on: June 4, 2003 01:53 pm CDT »
As long as the room it's in is very well air conditioned, condenstation won't really be much of a problem.  But I do know a 127watt Peltier would definately condenstate on an Athlon XP, there is just no questioning that.  What kind of temperatures do you get on your SLK-800?  I'm sure they can't be that bad, if it's anything near the 100 mark, I wouldn't want to go with a peltier.
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« Reply #441 on: June 4, 2003 02:12 pm CDT »
Or, you could just use this case and never worry about it...

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« Reply #442 on: June 4, 2003 02:51 pm CDT »
Too bad the airflow shadow is right above the cpu, the most crucial point.  Whoever designed that case is a moron.
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« Reply #443 on: June 4, 2003 02:53 pm CDT »
You don't understand.  I don't want it to keep it at an acceptable temperature.  It already is (32C/89F right now) I am wanting to overclock more. :)

I'm a speed freak.  (Not the drug kind.)
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« Reply #444 on: June 4, 2003 04:47 pm CDT »
So why do you not want to mod the board to get higher vcore?  After all, that is where most of the heat comes from, not the higher mhz, but the voltage.
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« Reply #445 on: June 5, 2003 10:11 pm CDT »
lol hook it into the plug you use for a refrigerator
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« Reply #446 on: June 5, 2003 11:32 pm CDT »
You still don't seem to understand me.  I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TEMPERATURE THAT MUCH.  So long as it's under 50C, I don't care.  Colder silicon=higher MHz w/o raising vcore so much.  Higher vcore=unexpected failure.
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« Reply #447 on: June 6, 2003 01:00 am CDT »
What you fail to understand is that with thermal dynamics, making it colder will only make the lines smaller.  And the vcore pushes the information faster and more freely.  You can't just instantly overclock just because it's 0 degrees.  It will fail because it doesn't have enough clean lines to run the information through.  That is where raising the voltage comes into play.  Trust me, by raising the vcore by .5 volts, you can achieve at least 100 more MHz.
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« Reply #448 on: June 6, 2003 01:46 am CDT »
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What you fail to understand is that with thermal dynamics, making it colder will only make the lines smaller.  And the vcore pushes the information faster and more freely.  You can't just instantly overclock just because it's 0 degrees.  It will fail because it doesn't have enough clean lines to run the information through.  That is where raising the voltage comes into play.  Trust me, by raising the vcore by .5 volts, you can achieve at least 100 more MHz.


Actually, you're wrong.  Do you even know the principle of a super-conductor in this day and age?  Now, I'm not going to make it a super-conductor but the colder it gets the higher the frequency it will handle without adding extra power.  I don't know where you got your information but it's wrong.
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« Reply #449 on: June 6, 2003 02:02 am CDT »
So you are just flat out saying that I'm wrong.  Hmm, ok.. whatever you get your information from must be a giant dictionary of infinite internet wisdom and knowledge, oh wait, that book doesn't exist.
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