Author Topic: Do you believe our lives are written? (Nostradamus)  (Read 7961 times)

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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2003 12:13 am CST »
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if god... created all ... then why did he create a evil being? if he can never make a mistake... why did he make the devil... and if he is all powerful why doesnt he just destroy the devil...


God didn't create evil, he created man in a perfect world, where everything was at peace.. Man brought evil upon himself when he ate the "apple" or gained knowledge of right at wrong.

And he didn't create the devil... Lucifer was originally one of God's head angels, but soon became jealous of his power.  He tried to overthrow heaven with his band of renegade angels, but of course failed.. this is when god created hell and cast them away.

The reason he doesn't destroy the devil, is because he gives every being (Inluding the Devil) choice of their own free will.. Like it says in the bible god is "all loving" and loves everyone.. even Lucifer.

I mean really.. it sounds as if you guys are begging for some kind of Nazi-god to prove his existance every 5 seconds, and destroy anyone who disagrees with him.  Just because God doesn't eliminate everyone who opposes him, doesn't mean he's weak or doesn't exist....
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2003 12:18 am CST »
God works in- oh sorry  8)

That is why movies like Dogma and even Bedazzled have a good message or moral to them.  In Bedazzled, the devil turns out to be a nice guy (or gal) and also has some good lines inbetween the movie.  Even for anyone that hates religions or is of a different religion would have to agree on at least some bits of it.
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2003 12:22 am CST »
God works in enigmatical ways...  :)
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2003 12:27 am CST »
uhhh i belive he did create... the devil... are u telling me he didnt create "his" angels.... ??? rrrrright ok... man

and when i said... evil being.. i was refering to the devil.. or satan.. or whatever

lol... yes god loves us all so much! rofl.... thats why 8% of the world.. has all the money... thats why female children are being killed in china... and india.. thats why people are starving to death... yes... spread love! pfffff fu<k god... fu<k his angels...fu<k heaven... fu<k hell... fork the pope.. and fu<k gods love he can shove it up his selfrighteous ass

 :twisted:  :roll:

im going to hell for that one hehehe

-Edit Dogma is a great movie... bedazzled was allright... gotta love satan.. as a school girl mmmmmmm
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2003 12:46 am CST »
Back to a subject before lucifer, there was a need for a first movement.  It says so in Aquantis' Proof theory.  It explains that for the universe to be created, a perfect model/entity was forever there (God).  Forever there was an intensely dense peice of matter floating in the void.  In some way, a first movement was cause.  Perhaps not even a micrometer an hour of a movement.  But later this movement accellerates, untill it is moving so fast that the peice of matter explodes (big bang) and the universe is created.



Also, back to lucifer ordeal-thingy.  One note I have for fundamentalist readers.  They believe that hell is a place of fire where you are tormented by imps for the rest of eternity.  Do you know where this idea came from?

During the middle ages, many people were illiterate, so they had to learn about religion through pictures.  In order to scare the people into remaining faithful, they created the image that Hell is a place similar to the inside of a volcano.  

Here's my 2 cents...
Hell is a place completely devoid of God, correct?  I have a feeling that is exactly what it is.  Think of it like this, to make it simple.  Hitler dies, and arrives at a line.  Behind him are millions of Jews that he slaughtered.  At this moment, he becomes enlightened, and realizes all the horrific things that he had caused.  Before him is God.  Because he has becomed enlightened, he steps out of the line and just walks past all the Jews waiting in line.  As he passes, the jews coax him to rejoin the line (for they too have been enlightened, and they forgive him).  But since he cannot forgive himself, he just keeps walking away, completely devoid of god, where his soul is lonely for the rest of eternity.

Purgatory could be the same way.  We keep walking until we forgive ourselves, and return to the line.

Of course, I have no way of knowing this, but that is the only way I can put that idea into terms.

*shrug*
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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2003 01:03 am CST »
interesting theory.. darwin.. that would be a malarkeyy line though...heh and it seems to easy.. are u sure your not catholic.. u might not get that joke.. but oh well

i honestly hope... there is no god... cause personally i don't wanna spend an eternity doing anything! like after a trillion years... what is there to do in heaven? honestly... ok granted your a spirit or whatever.. but still wouldnt it get boring? same with hell.. theres only so many things... u can be tortured by lolz... like damn...  bah whatever i just want blackness... like sleep... zzzzz or a cycle of life... either we are reborn as animals...

or maybe the universe is repeating its self... meaning... it explodes... then colapses because there is to much mass  in the middle.. and therefore colapses in its self...  lol maybe all of us have gone through our lives a million times...

who knows?
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2003 01:31 am CST »
Alright, after we all die let's get together for a good "I told ya so".
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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2003 09:45 pm CST »
Yeah, I usually tell my friends that if they die to come back and talk to me when they are ghosts...
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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2003 02:22 pm CST »
I didnt get the joke kenshin, but yes I am Catholic.  My religion teacher sparked those ideas.  He's a cool guy.  He looks 25 when he's actually 45.  I'll see if I can find a pic of him...

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Ok ok its a bad pic.  A really, really bad pic.  And he doesnt wear the glasses anymore.  He dips in class and stuff.  Cool guy...
(cant get a pic link to work now, just try this link):
https://www.cbhs.org/facultypics/106.jpg
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