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Should we clear to revitalize the server?

Yes (I would continue/start playing again)
21 (55.3%)
Yes (But I will be leaving)
2 (5.3%)
No (But I will start over and play)
6 (15.8%)
No (And I will leave if cleared)
9 (23.7%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: January 31, 2008 04:37 pm CST

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Kingpin

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« Reply #105 on: December 2, 2007 12:47 pm CST »
JUst to be clear for the list I am a solid YES for the clear.  I would play more and try to help build a better future for the game.
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« Reply #106 on: December 2, 2007 10:33 pm CST »
I voted yes for clear.
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« Reply #107 on: December 2, 2007 10:34 pm CST »
I still do not see why people wanted a clear that would obivously result in the exact same problems in a matter or months, if you want to fix these "problems" find a way that no one can bypass, have fun with trying to do that.
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« Reply #108 on: December 3, 2007 03:50 pm CST »
Quote from: "Kingpin"
JUst to be clear for the list I am a solid YES for the clear.  I would play more and try to help build a better future for the game.


Then what? another clear after another clear.. there's currently no reason to clear and we talk about doing it, I think we should think about making more stuff or an other world for high level, after all we should have a little reward for this time we spent to get to a high level ( Shannara as exemple )
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« Reply #109 on: December 3, 2007 06:03 pm CST »
i remember super tvt mod had a zone called Hell. whole map of bots just roaming around. was a ton of fun. just an idea
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« Reply #110 on: December 3, 2007 07:26 pm CST »
I agree that those problems won't go away but the clear would provide a forced no afk for awhile to bring life back to the server.

While this is going on I agree that we need to think of more things to do to keep aking and bordom down in the future.
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« Reply #111 on: December 3, 2007 08:09 pm CST »
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I agree that those problems won't go away but the clear would provide a forced no afk for awhile to bring life back to the server.


Not really. You can successfully level afk starting at level 1 rl0. Den and Cavern are the only zones where afk for low rls is difficult. By RL1-3 (one-two days tops) the better players are already afk full time again.

I can't think of any way to completely defeat the AFK problem. Particle was working on something, but he hasn't shared what it is, just yet. If he did, I could start finding a way around it so we could improve it.

A clear solves no problems. Sure you'll bring more "life" to the server for the first week or two. People who say they'll come back if there's a clear will come back for about two weeks (if that), get bored again then leave. Meanwhile, other players will have quit completely because of the clear. You'll probably lose a few low RL noobs who just hit rl5, got cleared and are like "wtf??? I just started!!! screw that!"

A clear solves no problems: it provides only extreme short-term patches to much larger problems. And by short-term, I mean on the order of less than 1 month.
It is my theory that the majority of players who vote for the clear do so only to spite the other players who have invested more time in the game than they have, and thus have a large advantage.

Overmugging/killing would be difficult to solve through a pure mod change. If the player is afk, then it's perfectly okay for other players to overmug and overkill that player. There's currently no way to decide if a player if afk or not.

Just look at the facts, these are the people who voted yes:
Dyre -Doesn't play
bungle -Doesn't play
Xanth -Hardly plays once a week
Vorter_X_ -Doesn't play
RedneckNoob -Doesn't play
Lidge Farkley -Doesn't play
Kingpin (Kingpin_Strife) -Just started playing again after several months gone
JayJay -Doesn't play
Achromatos -Hasn't played since the LAST clear. 4 years, now?

Of the people who have voted yes, only two have any semblance of a legitimate vote. And those two hardly even play at all. So are we actually considering completely wiping the character files of everyone...because two people who barely play think it's a good idea?

I'll quit if so.
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« Reply #112 on: December 3, 2007 10:43 pm CST »
I voted yes to Rose.

But, looking at it like that... :?
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« Reply #113 on: December 3, 2007 11:09 pm CST »
Good points, Rose...


Quote from: "Paradox666"
I voted yes too Rose.

But, looking at it like that... :?


Do you wish to revise your vote? "I don't know" is pretty popular this clear
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« Reply #114 on: December 3, 2007 11:19 pm CST »
I don't know / Maybe / Conditional
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« Reply #115 on: December 3, 2007 11:31 pm CST »
No one's vote is illegitimate you peace of malarkey, calm the fork down, if the server is cleared then oh forking well, START OVER.  I've had to start over TWO TIMES, and I never whined about it.  If the server is cleared again I will DEFINATELY PLAY AGAIN.  Clear the server and find a way for everyone to play legitimately, without afk scripts and what not, and you WILL see me in that server, for MORE than 'two weeks'.
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« Reply #116 on: December 4, 2007 12:44 am CST »
Where's the I don't care option? =/
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« Reply #117 on: December 4, 2007 05:34 am CST »
Quote from: "JayJay"
No one's vote is illegitimate you peace of malarkeye, calm the fark down, if the server is cleared then oh fark well, START OVER.  I've had to start over TWO TIMES, and I never whined about it.  If the server is cleared again I will DEFINATELY PLAY AGAIN.  Clear the server and find a way for everyone to play legitimately, without afk scripts and what not, and you WILL see me in that server, for MORE than 'two weeks'.


No vote is illegitimate.
Some votes are just more legitimate than others.
For example, if I voted for the governor of a State I hadn't lived in for 4 years, it wouldn't be too legitimate.
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« Reply #118 on: December 4, 2007 12:41 pm CST »
Sneeky loves fat pix
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« Reply #119 on: December 4, 2007 01:33 pm CST »
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Dyre -Doesn't play


Ordered a new fan for my computer, waiting for it to get here.  Sure, I could start up my PC and join the server, but I'd probably toast my CPU.

I'll wait for the fan to arrive.

I'm pretty sure my final quote on the server is something about how my PC is messing up.

My vote is dependant though, I'd be all for a clear if we see some changes to the server mod.  Without those changes, I could care less either way.
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