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[JayJay]

I shoot guns with my feet

[kharandhil]

Perhaps I should clarify there:

Strong arm/hand = whichever is going to be directly on the grip
Weak arm/hand = the other one

Generally, this means the strong side is your right side if you are right handed and are shooting most naturally (using your right side as such).  It doesn't really have anything to do with actual strength of one arm over the other.

you just make ti sound like it's about strength...but I guess it rly isnt

The shock you get from shooting a gun isn't that big anyways...but I wonder how badly it could injure somebody.
I wonder how tuff shooting a bazooka is...
Besides that I wonder if a strong guy could easier shoot with one hand, as he would have more grip and stability on the gun, but nto rly sure if that's a good idea...shooting even with both hands is more difficult than it seems...but I don't have that much experience with gun, espeically with pistols.

[Particle]

They aren't hard to shoot.  I shoot my AR one-handed all the time and it really just isn't that bad.  Same way with a Glock 19.  I've only shot my SIG twice, so I haven't tried it one handed yet.  It won't be bad.

You will only get injured if you are being stupid.  Doing what is called "limp wristing" is what will get you hurt...that and incoming bullets.  Basically, even if you are uber-frail you can safely fire a handgun.  However, being lazy and not having a good grip is what will hurt you.  When a pistol recoils, it will tend to go upward starting from the front.  With a bad grip, it would be easy for it to flip your wrist back too far, too fast.  That hurts a lot of people all the time--mostly those who are scared of the gun their first time.  Don't be scared of the tool.  It isn't going to hurt you if you aren't dumb about it.

[JayJay]

LOL
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZkvzYEXp0

[kharandhil]

LOL
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZkvzYEXp0

lol didn't even know this could be possible...but I guess like particle said,

It isn't going to hurt you if you aren't dumb about it.

lol...
I found it weird first time I used a gun, it was tuffer than it seemed and the recoil was way harder than I had imagined, but the gun was actually a machine gun and I didn't mess up like this girl lol. Now after shooting several times I've got used to it.

Even so about the one or 2 handed gun holding, 2 handed is prob always the best to shoot as it prob gives you the most stability.
One handed is more for actual close combat, but you still should go for more accuracy during real life.
Blowgun doesn't weight much ,yet holding with 2 hands is needed for accuracy, crossbow prob weights a bit more than a lil gun, can be shot with 2 hand, but always better to have 2. One handed is possible for a lot of firearms even the big ones, but more difficult with some...

Hey part have you ever tried a shotgun type of gun? With a big recoil? IS an ak-45 tuffer than the usual shotgun?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlFlXMHa ... re=related

another example of very bad gun holding. These guys hold the gun completely wrong, Position against the shoulder is wrong, hand positions are completely wrong...They rly don't expect such a cool recoil lol!

lots of very good funny vids abotu recoil, this one is rly funny (well kinda isnt lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glCFfhclrLI

Hey particle I hope you're not into learning kids to shoot (I'm talking about like 5 year olds...even less)
Just retarded how some parents give weapons to lil kids who don't understand what a weapon rly does...Rly hate how a guy learns how to shoot with his machine gun to 3year old...that's just...sigh

[Particle]

I wouldn't give one of my firearms to anyone I didn't trust.

Trust requirements:
- Be 16-18 or older...preferably older
- (or) Be a law enforcement officer  [only had this come up twice]
- Be well known to me and mature

You can hold and shoot a gun any way you want to provided you accomplish what your goal was.  Said another way, there isn't really any one "right" way to hold any firearm despite what a lot of jokers will tell you.  If you are hitting what you intended and are doing so safely both to yourself and others, you are doing it right.

Now, that much being said some ways typically are much better than others.  I wouldn't recommend standing on your head and firing with your foot for normal people.  Likewise, a two-handed hold is always going to be better than a one-handed hold (barring freak skill sets, once again).  Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Sure, two pistols always looks so dramatic and cool in a movie, but that would definitely NOT be my first choice.  Each shot from a single pistol using a two-handed hold would be more effectively.  The objective in a confrontation is to end the threat quickly.  Because of that, shot quality matters while shot quantity does not.  The average engagement distance for an exchange of supersonic lead (for pistols) is ten feet.  People still miss...a lot.  Go for quality.

[kharandhil]

Yeah gun shooting is way more limited than you see in the movies. I saw a whole testshooting show on nat geo about small gun shooting and max range for a non movign target was around 15m (and could only be done by a pro and even then...)

LOL rly makes me feel great as shuriken can be throw at about same range (with accuracy and hit for sure) can be done at longer distances (double and more) but accuracy is lost. That doesnt mean it sucks...it still hits fairly a lot.
DOn't even get me started on range of crossbows and blowguns...from what I'm hearing their range seems even better than a normal small gun lol!

ure, two pistols always looks so dramatic and cool in a movie, but that would definitely NOT be my first choice. Each shot from a single pistol using a two-handed hold would be more effectively. The objective in a confrontation is to end the threat quickly. Because of that, shot quality matters while shot quantity does not. The average engagement distance for an exchange of supersonic lead (for pistols) is ten feet. People still miss...a lot. Go for quality.

in the end weapons are made for the killn coolness and style is the least to worry about.
Fast killing is the main priority with pretty much every weapon.

[Arf]

Yeah gun shooting is way more limited than you see in the movies. I saw a whole testshooting show on nat geo about small gun shooting and max range for a non movign target was around 15m (and could only be done by a pro and even then...)

LOL rly makes me feel great as shuriken can be throw at about same range (with accuracy and hit for sure) can be done at longer distances (double and more) but accuracy is lost. That doesnt mean it sucks...it still hits fairly a lot.
DOn't even get me started on range of crossbows and blowguns...from what I'm hearing their range seems even better than a normal small gun lol!

ure, two pistols always looks so dramatic and cool in a movie, but that would definitely NOT be my first choice. Each shot from a single pistol using a two-handed hold would be more effectively. The objective in a confrontation is to end the threat quickly. Because of that, shot quality matters while shot quantity does not. The average engagement distance for an exchange of supersonic lead (for pistols) is ten feet. People still miss...a lot. Go for quality.

in the end weapons are made for the killn coolness and style is the least to worry about.
Fast killing is the main priority with pretty much every weapon.

yeah here is more pearls of wisdom by the expert in everything  :roll:  now he's a weapons expert
 :lol:

[kharandhil]

lol arf is doing exacly the same retard remarks focus does XD

[Particle]

I don't really understand what the criticism is about, Arf.  All of my points are just common sense, unless you don't agree with my basic premise of "If you're in a confrontation, do what it takes to end it as quickly and safely as possible."  I don't really feel I have to be some sort of certified expert to figure that one out.  The rest of the details I posted just draw on that basic setup.

[Arf]

I don't really understand what the criticism is about, Arf.  All of my points are just common sense, unless you don't agree with my basic premise of "If you're in a confrontation, do what it takes to end it as quickly and safely as possible."  I don't really feel I have to be some sort of certified expert to figure that one out.  The rest of the details I posted just draw on that basic setup.

Not you my dear Duke, for your intelligence, experience and knowledge are not what is in question here....

my comments were for the self appointed resident expert in everything...  

The use of a weapon, whether it be a knife, sword, pistol or rifle, to take the life of an other living being, nay i say the life of another human being, is a situation/ confrontation that i hope NONE of you will ever have to face.   I have only one regret in my life, and that would be a confrontation where a man lost his life and i took it.  Yes it was war, yes it was combat, and some say i shouldn't feel bad because i was only doing my duty.  Some say that it was justified because it was either him or me, but the point is moot. I have to live with my regrets, my heartbreak, and my guilt or the rest of my life. and to think i got a medal for it.

so yes if you are ever in a confrontation, please for your own sake, do what ever it takes to resolve it peacefully. The end result will be your peace of mind.

[Arf]

lol arf is doing exacly the same retard remarks focus does XD

stfu your majesty

your ignorance out weighs your experience

when will you ever learn?

[kharandhil]

lol arf is doing exacly the same retard remarks focus does XD

stfu your majesty

your ignorance out weighs your experience

when will you ever learn?

I have much to learn, you too old stubborn dude!

If I'm ignorant, what are you? You were just a soldier. It's true that I'm arrogant, but that's just cuz of my education...
HAve you ever talked to a prime minister (which is here the head of the country), how many times have you been invited personally to the Flemish parliament ?How many times have you been on tv ?
My student job prob pays even better than your job, you rly have so much to be proud of.
I went to the military to see if i could apply, do you know what they told me?
I had to be ingeneer...They rly didnt wanna put me in something else...
Do you rly think when I go apply for a job that I get the sucky jobs? The fact that I speak and write 5 language is just one of many reasons why I get a job fast, and I barely have to work.
What do I have to envy from you?Why should I think I'm a retard, an ignorant? Maybe I should jump out of tall building to satisfy you sadistic and ignorant needs.
If you want to believe that you are better than me, so be it.

so yes if you are ever in a confrontation, please for your own sake, do what ever it takes to resolve it peacefully. The end result will be your peace of mind

Hilarious, LOLOLOL you know what peace means? I doubt that with your stubbornness you will ever be able to accept peace. This is just a fight with words, I don't care if it continue, but you rly insist on keeping this conflict running. It's fine as long as it gives you a peaceful mind.

SOme things just aren't possible I guess. What else could I have done besides fighting back when a guy went straith to me with a knife (happened twice) or at other times, when several come at me...(confrontations ended with just a few cuts and KOs)
I bet arf would have enjoyed seeing me die...

Stop being so cool arf, I won't keep wasting my time on useless bullcrap.
Hatred and anger won't resolve anything, it's sad how some people rly enjoy feeling those kind of emotions...
Yet they dare talking about "peace".
Are you seriously expecting a good result from this useless immature behaviour?

[Kyrie]

Just retarded how some parents give weapons to lil kids who don't understand what a weapon rly does...

I don't think there's anything wrong with teaching a child how to use a firearm. 5 may be a little young, but I don't think 8-10 is out of the question. There's nothing wrong with a parent taking their child out hunting with them, teaching the child about how dangerous a weapon is, and instructing on the proper use of the weapon. Familiarity is the best defense against mis-use.

[Arf]

Hey Dickhead, I tried to let it go back when you made those disgusting comments about my wife.  but YOU wouldn't apologize and you wanted to make a spectacle of it, YOU played the victim like i did something to you.

I don't have time to compare laurels with a kid still in school wishing he could sit at the table with the big kids.
(personally decorated by the President of the United States, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense and Secretary of the Navy)
I didn't make comments about your country, your politics, your job , your girlfriend, I never made any comments about you ever till you opened that sewer of malarkeyhole you call a mouth and started this whole thing.

When did I say you had to be envious of me?  I am not the one who makes broad judgments of other peoples homes and families, read the farkin posts you idiot, you are the one that always has an uniformed, uneducated, misguided opinion about America, Americans, American politics, and anything else to do with the United States.

your silly student job doesn't impress me,

maybe the military wants you to be an "ingineer" cause they know your too stupid to do anything else.

and finally to quote you , especially when it is relevant concerning someone else's behavior,

Are you seriously expecting a good result from this useless immature behaviour?

maybe you should ask yourself that question every time you open that sewer of a malarkeyhole you call a mouth and insult someone else.